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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; The hit on Graham is a prime example. Someone threw up a foul penalty box idea and that may work, but it still only effects the player. He is getting paid regardless, and $30K in fines is chump change to ...

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Old 09-16-2013, 11:16 AM   #1
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Egregious Personal Fouls

The hit on Graham is a prime example.

Someone threw up a foul penalty box idea and that may work, but it still only effects the player. He is getting paid regardless, and $30K in fines is chump change to some of these guys. If you really want to stop the egregious head spears etc... You have to not hit the player but the organization, the coach, the owner... not in the pocket but where it really hurts... and hit them hard.. Saints fans know what that is like don't we?

I am willing to bet a case of your favorite beverage, or a Shrimp Po-Boy for some, that I could put an end to this BS... Dont touch the player... Hit the team allowing him to do that with reduction in Cap Space and see if the crap doesn't end very quickly.

How many head spears would be avoided if the penalty was $500,000 against next years cap space for each and every one, and after 3 in a season for the same team they lose a draft pick next season? The owner and GM would put an end to it very quickly.

For those that think the league is becoming too soft, Tim Ryan said it best...

"You think the NFL has become soft bro? Take your azz and spend 30 minutes on the field between the tackles then come back and tell me how soft it is."
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Old 09-16-2013, 03:21 PM   #2
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Re: Egregious Personal Fouls

".....$500,000 against next years cap space for each and every one,"

The Saints would be down $500,000 after Vaccaro's hit wouldn't they?
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Originally Posted by vpheughan View Post
".....$500,000 against next years cap space for each and every one,"

The Saints would be down $500,000 after Vaccaro's hit wouldn't they?
There would have to be stipulations to the rule, which I don't feel Vaccaro's hit would qualify. Neither do I think the hit to Brees would qualify, didn't look like he was aiming for the head.

However, the hit to Graham was a blatant attempt to put him out of the game with a concussion.
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Old 09-16-2013, 04:09 PM   #4
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500,000K against the cap is ridiculous and penalizing the team altogether is egregious. Why on God's green earth would we want more power in Roger's hands? Would you really want him being able to say "The Saints have lost their 1st round pick due to having personal foul penalties"? NO THANKS!!

However I do think Tampa needs to be investigated for a bounty program!
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The fines shouldn't be a fixed number - they should fine a fixed percentage of a salary.
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Originally Posted by |Mitch| View Post
There would have to be stipulations to the rule, which I don't feel Vaccaro's hit would qualify. Neither do I think the hit to Brees would qualify, didn't look like he was aiming for the head.

However, the hit to Graham was a blatant attempt to put him out of the game with a concussion.
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Originally Posted by blackangold View Post
500,000K against the cap is ridiculous and penalizing the team altogether is egregious. Why on God's green earth would we want more power in Roger's hands? Would you really want him being able to say "The Saints have lost their 1st round pick due to having personal foul penalties"? NO THANKS!!

However I do think Tampa needs to be investigated for a bounty program!
News flash..... He already has that power.

It would be putting no more power in Goodell's hands. He has all the power possible. You do realize that punishments for personal fouls are recommended to Goodell by a panel and for on the field violations, and his punishments are appealable to someone else. Did you follow Bounty Gate at all?

Like I said, if you want to stop an employee from doing things he shouldn't, you hit the person paying him to do it.

Thanks for popping off though.
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The fines shouldn't be a fixed number - they should fine a fixed percentage of a salary.
Nahh that won't work. A player making $10M a year should be fined more than a guy making $500k a year for the same hit just because he makes more money?

Sounds familiar but belongs in the Poli area
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Old 09-16-2013, 04:31 PM   #9
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Oak, I like the idea. Don't stop on the field though.

Drug conviction? Hit em.
DUI? Hit em.
Felonies? Hit em harder!
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Nahh that won't work. A player making $10M a year should be fined more than a guy making $500k a year for the same hit just because he makes more money?

Sounds familiar but belongs in the Poli area
This is the world we live in.

No wait. I'm still in California.

dammit...

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