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saintz08 10-06-2004 10:16 AM

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1 New England Patriots 1
Can this train be stopped? It won't be this week when they break the consecutive-wins record against Miami. Watch out for Seattle in two weeks.
2 Philadelphia Eagles 2
The schedule hasn't been too tough, but this is a team heading into the bye on a roll. Terrell Owens has made Donovan McNabb a different player.
3 Indianapolis Colts 3
They won with the running game and big stops against the Jaguars, not with Peyton Manning's arm. That could be an important step in this team's growth.
4 Seattle Seahawks 4
Coming off the bye, they get the Rams in Seattle on Sunday with a chance to essentially put the division away after five weeks. Yeah, it's true.
5 Atlanta Falcons 8
Going on the road and beating the Panthers says a lot about this team. They aren't just about Michael Vick anymore.
6 Minnesota Vikings 5
Coming off the bye they have a tougher-than-expected game against the revived Texans in Houston. Watch out for this one, Vikings fans.
7 New York Jets 9
As bad as Miami is, they have always proved to be a tough game for the Jets. Getting past that game in ugly fashion is huge.
8 Jacksonville Jaguars 6
The bad news is they lost to the Colts. The good news is the offense came alive.
9 Denver Broncos 7
Beating the Bucs isn't what it used to be, but that's a nice road victory for the Broncos.
10 Pittsburgh Steelers 14
The Big Ben era is off to a good start. At 3-1, they have to be thrilled with where they sit.
11 Dallas Cowboys 15
Coming off the bye week, Bill Parcells faces his pupil in Tom Coughlin and the Giants.
12 New York Giants 20
The Giants started the season at the bottom of this poll, which says something about the coaching job by Coughlin.
13 St. Louis Rams 19
If they had lost at San Fran, the buzzards would have been hovering above Mike Martz. As it is, they are 2-2 heading into a key game Sunday at Seattle.
14 Baltimore Ravens 10
So much for the defense carrying this team to a Super Bowl. They can't play like they did against the Chiefs and think that will happen.
15 Detroit Lions 18
Coming out of a bye week is something young teams have to learn to handle. Playing a good Atlanta team won't make it easy.
16 Carolina Panthers 11
They were miffed at the one-year wonder talk during training camp. That's looking more and more like a reality.
17 Green Bay Packers 12
Mike Sherman's team is struggling. And that's putting it nicely. Forget the Lambeau Leap. It's now the Lambeau Losses.
18 New Orleans Saints 13
Why is it this team can't handle prosperity? At least they have their whipping boys, the Bucs, coming to town this week.

19 Tennessee Titans 16
They're falling faster than Kobe Bryant's reputation. Too many players have left the past couple of years to keep this a playoff team.
20 Houston Texans 24
Two consecutive victories rids us of David Carr's nasty 'do, but more important for the Texans it has them at .500.
21 Cleveland Browns 25
They got a big victory this past week, but the Redskins played poorly so it's tough to gauge. Plus, Butch Davis gets demerits for faking that field goal.
22 Oakland Raiders 21
Maybe Rich Gannon will be missed more than some of us thought. Kerry Collins has to play better.
23 San Diego Chargers 30
Something you haven't seen in this space before: Credit to Marty Schottenheimer. He is doing a heck of a job with this young team.
24 Washington Redskins 17
The Joe Gibbs II era isn't off to a good start. At some point, this team has to start holding onto the ball.
25 Kansas City Chiefs 22
There's still hope. That was a heck of a road victory Monday, shredding a good Baltimore defense.
26 Cincinnati Bengals 23
They are taking the step back I expected. When you start a young quarterback, there are going to be growing pains.
27 Chicago Bears 26
The Mighty (Jon) Quinn he wasn't. The Bears are in for a long season without Rex Grossman.
28 Arizona Cardinals 32
Give Dennis Green credit, he had his team ready to play against the Saints. There are some good young players on this team, something to build around for the future.
29 Buffalo Bills 27
Who was it that thought this could be a playoff team? They have competed in games, but that's not good enough.
30 Tampa Bay Buccaneers 29
Don't look now, but the Creamsicle-colored Bucs are back. This is bad.
31 Miami Dolphins 28
How low can they go? Check back next week after the Patriots throw them around. Does anybody have Earl Morrall's number?
32 San Francisco 49ers 31
This proud organization is struggling in a big way. But didn't we expect that this year?

saintfan 10-06-2004 10:25 AM

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16 Carolina Panthers 11
They were miffed at the one-year wonder talk during training camp. That\'s looking more and more like a reality.
Sound familiar? LOL

WhoDat 10-06-2004 11:04 AM

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Yeah - didn\'t you also say that getting Vick back wouldn\'t help the Falcons significantly? One man doesn\'t make or break that team. The Falcons were what? 1-11, 2-10 with Vick out last season? Since his return they are 7-1. Hhmmm...

Danno 10-06-2004 11:11 AM

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Yeah - didn\'t you also say that getting Vick back wouldn\'t help the Falcons significantly? One man doesn\'t make or break that team. The Falcons were what? 1-11, 2-10 with Vick out last season? Since his return they are 7-1. Hhmmm...
Maybe injuries to key players DOES matter after all doesn\'t it.
I guess it doesn\'t matter if we\'re talking Saints, but it does matter when we\'re talking about other teams.


saintfan 10-06-2004 11:30 AM

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I\'m not sure, but I think you have me mistaken for someone else. What I DO recall is saying that injuries matter and pointed to the Falcons as proof. ;)

WhoDat 10-06-2004 11:49 AM

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That IS funny, b/c I don\'t remember saying that injuries didn\'t effect a team. I remember saying that injuries weren\'t hurting the Saints nearly as much as you two suggested. I remember you two basically blaming last season - and especially the defense\'s poor performance - on injuries.

OK - what\'s the excuse this year? There\'s a new one every year, what\'s this year\'s figured it out yet? Has an almost entirely healthy roster helped the Saints? Has our defense gotten better or worse with essentially the same players and coach? Is the team more consistent? Maybe the problem actually DID have something to do with coaching. Of course, you both readily admit that now, but at the time, you were both behind Haslett 110% and happy to blame the problems on injuries and not on him.

canucksaint 10-06-2004 01:27 PM

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Which rankings do you prefer the CBS or the ESPN?

[b:057a488703] 19 New Orleans Saints (16)
The Saints really don\'t deserve a comment this week[/b:057a488703]

saintfan 10-06-2004 01:50 PM

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I\'m still behind Haz. I don\'t deny that now nor have I ever. I\'m frustrated, same as you, but I\'m not willing to speculate about the inner workings of the team or what goes on behind closed doors.

If you want speculation, see 08. New defensive coordinator? I\'m all for it. New OC, yup, sign me up.

And oh, I don\'t think it was you that said \"injuries are no excuse\", I think that was 08. You probably rushed in to defend his statement tho. So then, you think injuries are an excuse?

[Edited on 6/10/2004 by saintfan]

saintz08 10-06-2004 02:02 PM

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I\'m still behind Haz.
That might explain a thing or two .... :hump:

saintfan 10-06-2004 03:08 PM

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Careful 08. You can\'t go around taking pot shots at people.



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