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Old 09-16-2013, 05:46 PM   #11
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the fix is we need a running game.
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Brees under-threw Henderson for years, there's nothing new here, just a little rust.
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I care note about Drew's turnovers than him underthrowing deep balls.. can't just give the other team the ball after the d works to give it to u. This isn't hot potato
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I am amazed each and every day by the ignorance of Drew Brees's contract impact, and the Salary Cap history it self. Does anyone read anymore?

Cap Hits
2008 - 9M
2009 -10.3M
2010 - 12.3M
2011 - 10M
2012 - 10M Carl Nicks and Robert Meachem Gone
2013 - 17.4M Bushrod Henderson Gone

Nicks and Meachem have nothing to do with Drew's Cap hit, they were gone at the end of 2011 and Drew's cap hit was flat through 2012...

Henderson - He took a huge pay cut... We could have afforded him all day. He was a casualty of production, not Drew's Salary. We resigned Meachem for nearly the same amount.
2013 cap hit $840k
2012 cap hit $2.35M

There is only 1 possible Salary Cap sacrifice and Bushrod is not worth $11.7M this year or 13.8M next year. He was manhandled quite a few times last year, or do we all forget.

In 2013 the Saints have 2.7M in cap roll over from 2012 and 2.1M in adjustment from the NFL, Drew's cap hit increased by 7.4M - 4.8M means Drew's HUGINORMOUS contract has effected our salary cap a grand total of 2.8 Million Dolllars. That's all.... No more.... Get over it.... Let it go... Next year we can have this discussion again.


What in the hell does Drew's contract or Cap Space have to do with Kromer?

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Originally Posted by Euphoria View Post
the fix is we need a running game.
And I'm confident we have that... All day.
Just need to rearrange a few pieces.
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psst... look at LT
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Old 09-16-2013, 09:26 PM   #17
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Sorry no question that Drew's contract has affect in later plans. No matter how much restructuring or whatever. You pay one player that much money & it's gonna hurt some where.

Next Kromer. He was the man. We are hurting without him. I figured there would be some blowback. But - the line just blows!!
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Sorry no question that Drew's contract has affect in later plans. No matter how much restructuring or whatever. You pay one player that much money & it's gonna hurt some where.

Next Kromer. He was the man. We are hurting without him. I figured there would be some blowback. But - the line just blows!!
"Later plans" in the NFl are just that... "Later Plans"... No one today knows what this team will look like when the salary cap deadline of 2014 arrives on the calendar. No one...

Kromer was the man but his leaving had absolutely zero to do with Drew Brees or any player and had nothing to do with the Saints organization. Kromers move was career progression and Chicago had a spot for him just like Sean Payton coming here. Its business...

The catch is that Drew hasn't "been paid" that yet and never will. His contract was built to be restructured for cap space with the bulk of the annual cap hit being in salary and not bonus distribution. Drew can drop his salary to $7M a year and his cap hit never goes over 14.4M/year.

Right now Drew Brees Salary doesn't even make the Top 14 in the league
2013 NFL Top Base Salaries

And his Cap His doesnt break the top 3, in 2014 he goes down on the list and the 2015 number will never happen unless we have our second Super Bowl win and then it just shuts up all the "Drews contract buried out team BS".
2013 NFL Top Cap Hit Salaries

This is the first year that Drews contract escalates against the cap and that is all salary escalation. Are we worse off for it? Not by any means, flip back through the annuals of time here at B&G and you will see that Brown is doing as good if not slightly better than Bushrod did.

Look at it as a car lease, you drove off the lot with a $90k car but you will never pay that. You are going to pay about $$8k a year for three years then turn it in or renegotiate the buying price.

Would you like to know what puzzles the crap out of me? The same people that want to raise holy hell about Drew's contract are not willing to let it play out as it was designed to do... They jump to conclusions, and play the blame game for something that hasn't happened yet. Then they profess to take the "wait and see" approach on our defense that is presently kicking ass. These people live on the drama filled negative side of the battery. I am no ray of proverbial sunshine but I stand firm in the middle.

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Drew Cap goes up to 18ml next but something will have to be done after that as 2015/16 its $26.4/27.4ml

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Old 09-17-2013, 08:39 AM   #20
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I am about to do a cap thread, Drew's cap increase is incremental next year by 1M but we have bigger fish to fry.

Drew will restructure next year.
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