Goldson suspended for hit on Sproles

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TheOak · 09-16-2013, 07:53 PM

Originally Posted by saintfan

True. Collinsworth went on and on last night after every "big" hit in the Seattle/Whiner game. Roger wants it. The lawyers want it. And I'm not saying that dialing it in a bit is a bad thing really, but i agree with what you're saying.

Cillinsworth is a douché.

Utah_Saint · 09-16-2013, 08:33 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

Coaches love head hunters. Trust me. All this "culture changing" is new, and isn't necessarily universally wanted by the players or coaches.

It's not new, it's been happening for a hundred years. The game has been evolving since its inception.

When they first put helmets on players people whined that they were changing the game. Then they complained about shoulder pads and face masks, then chop blocks and clipping, roughing the passer and roughing the kicker.

Now we understand that using a helmet as a weapon causes concussions. That's fact.

We know more about concussions now than we did 20 years ago. We didn't understand the damage was cumulative. We understand now that concussions shorten peoples lives. The average life expectancy of a retired NFL player is 62 while the national average is 73. They cause premature dementia. A large percentage of ex-NFL players are "punch drunk" They destroy brains way of processing memories. Ex-NFL players have a much higher rate of Alzheimer's. That's science.

If crippling, maiming and causing permanent brain damage can be reduced, then we'd be fools not to do so.

Barry from MS · 09-16-2013, 09:21 PM

Goldson suspended? Couldn't happen to a better Richard Cranium. Repeat offender not willing to adjust and has blatantly said he wouldn't.

Ahmad Black? Blatant targeting of Graham; his actions after the hit a dead giveaway to targeting. Timing was obvious too since up to that point Graham was torching them. He actually expected to get flagged. A punk...I would use much, much more colorful language, but kids are on here reading, too. Break his bank account, Heir Goodell, unless you funded that hit yourself since we know how much you love our team.

homerj07 · 09-16-2013, 09:34 PM

Repeat offender. Should be more than one game.

arsaint · 09-16-2013, 10:10 PM

Probably didn't help his case when they reviewed the game tape and he was laughing about the hit on Sproles.

rezburna · 09-16-2013, 10:10 PM

Originally Posted by Utah_Saint

It's not new, it's been happening for a hundred years. The game has been evolving since its inception.

When they first put helmets on players people whined that they were changing the game. Then they complained about shoulder pads and face masks, then chop blocks and clipping, roughing the passer and roughing the kicker.

Now we understand that using a helmet as a weapon causes concussions. That's fact.

We know more about concussions now than we did 20 years ago. We didn't understand the damage was cumulative. We understand now that concussions shorten peoples lives. The average life expectancy of a retired NFL player is 62 while the national average is 73. They cause premature dementia. A large percentage of ex-NFL players are "punch drunk" They destroy brains way of processing memories. Ex-NFL players have a much higher rate of Alzheimer's. That's science.

If crippling, maiming and causing permanent brain damage can be reduced, then we'd be fools not to do so.

The adding of equipment doesn't equate to changing the rules of the game itself. Especially when all the rules are made to hinder defense. Lets not pretend their trying to protect the players. They're trying to protect themselves. The players didn't ask to be protected. That concussion stuff was wrong on the NFL's part, and doesn't fall under the category of "you know what you got into" like everything else. Nobody knew about concussions and their effect more then the NFL and they hid it. Player safety is a reaction to the lawsuits.

There is no such thing as safe football. People are always going to walk away with relatively unhealthy bodies. My body is unhealthy from it and I avoided most contact. And I'd still play if given the chance. At the end of the day we've got a lot of people, myself included, speaking for the people who are actually on the field.

rezburna · 09-16-2013, 10:15 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

I was playing ball and knocking jocks in the dirt before your first dirty diaper... Save that crap for your friends. I never went for the head or knees, everything else is defensible.

There are unwritten rules... Like prison, and gangs... There is **** you don't do because its spineless.

IDK who wrote your rule book, but going at the head has been fine up until now. Never heard anybody complain about it. You had some running backs who would get mad when you go low and say hit me up high, but its only when the tackle was made and because they were frustrated they got tackled. So yeah, they have unwritten rules, but those weren't it. We can pull up the film from the players of your time. Those head hunting hits were applauded. They're on highlight reels. How do you feel about Deacon Jones and the way he played, because if I'm not mistaken isn't he in the HOF?

rezburna · 09-16-2013, 10:16 PM

Bill Romanowski did dirty ****. Incognito does dirty ****. Those are the real definitions of dirty players.

QBREES9 · 09-16-2013, 10:34 PM

That is a little crazy.

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TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 18,978	Re: Goldson suspended for hit on Sproles Originally Posted by saintfan True. Collinsworth went on and on last night after every "big" hit in the Seattle/Whiner game. Roger wants it. The lawyers want it. And I'm not saying that dialing it in a bit is a bad thing really, but i agree with what you're saying. Cillinsworth is a douché. onebyone likes this.

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Utah_Saint Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 3,521	Re: Goldson suspended for hit on Sproles Originally Posted by rezburna Coaches love head hunters. Trust me. All this "culture changing" is new, and isn't necessarily universally wanted by the players or coaches. It's not new, it's been happening for a hundred years. The game has been evolving since its inception. When they first put helmets on players people whined that they were changing the game. Then they complained about shoulder pads and face masks, then chop blocks and clipping, roughing the passer and roughing the kicker. Now we understand that using a helmet as a weapon causes concussions. That's fact. We know more about concussions now than we did 20 years ago. We didn't understand the damage was cumulative. We understand now that concussions shorten peoples lives. The average life expectancy of a retired NFL player is 62 while the national average is 73. They cause premature dementia. A large percentage of ex-NFL players are "punch drunk" They destroy brains way of processing memories. Ex-NFL players have a much higher rate of Alzheimer's. That's science. If crippling, maiming and causing permanent brain damage can be reduced, then we'd be fools not to do so. Crusader likes this.

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Barry from MS Site Donor 2014 Join Date: May 2007 Location: TEMPO VC Okefenokee Swamp Posts: 1,985 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Goldson suspended for hit on Sproles Goldson suspended? Couldn't happen to a better Richard Cranium. Repeat offender not willing to adjust and has blatantly said he wouldn't. Ahmad Black? Blatant targeting of Graham; his actions after the hit a dead giveaway to targeting. Timing was obvious too since up to that point Graham was torching them. He actually expected to get flagged. A punk...I would use much, much more colorful language, but kids are on here reading, too. Break his bank account, Heir Goodell, unless you funded that hit yourself since we know how much you love our team. SaintsBro likes this.

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homerj07 In Doh We Trust Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Central Florida Posts: 7,027 Blog Entries: 16	Re: Goldson suspended for hit on Sproles Repeat offender. Should be more than one game.

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arsaint Saint Historian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: deep in the bowels of a hidden bunker, somewhere under the brick & steel of a nondescript building.. Posts: 2,623	Re: Goldson suspended for hit on Sproles Probably didn't help his case when they reviewed the game tape and he was laughing about the hit on Sproles.

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rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,650	Re: Goldson suspended for hit on Sproles Originally Posted by Utah_Saint It's not new, it's been happening for a hundred years. The game has been evolving since its inception. When they first put helmets on players people whined that they were changing the game. Then they complained about shoulder pads and face masks, then chop blocks and clipping, roughing the passer and roughing the kicker. Now we understand that using a helmet as a weapon causes concussions. That's fact. We know more about concussions now than we did 20 years ago. We didn't understand the damage was cumulative. We understand now that concussions shorten peoples lives. The average life expectancy of a retired NFL player is 62 while the national average is 73. They cause premature dementia. A large percentage of ex-NFL players are "punch drunk" They destroy brains way of processing memories. Ex-NFL players have a much higher rate of Alzheimer's. That's science. If crippling, maiming and causing permanent brain damage can be reduced, then we'd be fools not to do so. The adding of equipment doesn't equate to changing the rules of the game itself. Especially when all the rules are made to hinder defense. Lets not pretend their trying to protect the players. They're trying to protect themselves. The players didn't ask to be protected. That concussion stuff was wrong on the NFL's part, and doesn't fall under the category of "you know what you got into" like everything else. Nobody knew about concussions and their effect more then the NFL and they hid it. Player safety is a reaction to the lawsuits. There is no such thing as safe football. People are always going to walk away with relatively unhealthy bodies. My body is unhealthy from it and I avoided most contact. And I'd still play if given the chance. At the end of the day we've got a lot of people, myself included, speaking for the people who are actually on the field.
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09-16-2013, 10:15 PM	#48
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,650	Re: Goldson suspended for hit on Sproles Originally Posted by TheOak I was playing ball and knocking jocks in the dirt before your first dirty diaper... Save that crap for your friends. I never went for the head or knees, everything else is defensible. There are unwritten rules... Like prison, and gangs... There is **** you don't do because its spineless. IDK who wrote your rule book, but going at the head has been fine up until now. Never heard anybody complain about it. You had some running backs who would get mad when you go low and say hit me up high, but its only when the tackle was made and because they were frustrated they got tackled. So yeah, they have unwritten rules, but those weren't it. We can pull up the film from the players of your time. Those head hunting hits were applauded. They're on highlight reels. How do you feel about Deacon Jones and the way he played, because if I'm not mistaken isn't he in the HOF?
	"The first need of a free people is to define their own terms.” - Stokely Carmichael

09-16-2013, 10:16 PM	#49
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,650	Re: Goldson suspended for hit on Sproles Bill Romanowski did dirty **. Incognito does dirty **. Those are the real definitions of dirty players.

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QBREES9 Moderator Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New Haven Ct Posts: 23,982	Re: Goldson suspended for hit on Sproles That is a little crazy.

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