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dizzle88 09-22-2013 03:46 PM

Khiry Robinson runs nasty
 
His runs at the end were amazing, albeit i dont know if arizonas D was gassed but multiple times he hit the hole fast, made a move got north and south and then ran over someone

4 carries for 38 yards, now thats production

I defended ingram for a long time, but khiry and PT looked like a great 1-2 punch and NOLA.com reports ingram has asked for a trade

halloween 65 09-22-2013 03:51 PM

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I believe Ingram lost his job today, if Robinson is not a fumbler he starts! Payton better get over Ingram we have a new back in town!!

|Mitch| 09-22-2013 03:52 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by halloween 65 (Post 530734)
I believe Ingram lost his job today,

New Orleans Saints running back Mark Ingram could be seeking a trade, report says | NOLA.com

jnormand 09-22-2013 03:58 PM

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I've been defending Ingram too, but after watching Robinson hit the hole and turn up field, I hope he starts getting more touches. The kid is fast.

The Dude 09-22-2013 03:59 PM

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Good. I really do wish Ingram luck. I don't think he is a bad player, and I think he will do very well for some other team, just not ours. For whatever reason weather it be the line, his running style, the play calling, lack of consistant carries to get warmed up, whatever, he just isnt cutting it here. I would love to see what we can get.

The Dude 09-22-2013 04:00 PM

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And this was one of the better run D in the league.

Vrillon82 09-22-2013 04:00 PM

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Robinson is my choice for the simple fact that he can hit holes way better than any RB we have had in previous years, probably since Duece.

dueceloose 09-22-2013 04:00 PM

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Ingram asking for a trade.. Hmm another useless 16 page thread?

DemonicSaint 09-22-2013 04:29 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Vrillon82 (Post 530740)
Robinson is my choice for the simple fact that he can hit holes way better than any RB we have had in previous years, probably since Duece.

Ivory was the same way. I think this kid could be a workhorse back as well as a 1-2-3 punch with Sproles, PT, and KR. He is hungry. He is explosive, and doesn't shy away from contact (again, much like Ivory.).

The Dude 09-22-2013 04:33 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DemonicSaint (Post 530753)
Ivory was the same way. I think this kid could be a workhorse back as well as a 1-2-3 punch with Sproles, PT, and KR. He is hungry. He is explosive, and doesn't shy away from contact (again, much like Ivory.).

Only question now is if he can stay healthy. Backs like him usually can't.

Barry from MS 09-22-2013 04:34 PM

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I like this dude...very physical and fast. Just hang on to the ball and we'll have no issues.

TheOak 09-22-2013 04:34 PM

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Their D was gassed because of our offense, our scoring, our defense making their defense stay on the field 11 minutes more than ours.

They were gassed because of the Saints and not outside the game issues. That is big.

Saints ToP 35:31
Cards ToP 25:29

Rugby Saint II 09-22-2013 05:16 PM

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The boy looked good out there. Let's see him do it next week too. When is the trade dead line?

dizzle88 09-22-2013 05:23 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 530786)
The boy looked good out there. Let's see him do it next week too. When is the trade dead line?

Week 6 I believe is the deadline

homerj07 09-22-2013 05:25 PM

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I could only listen. So I will have to,check him out on Rewjnd tomorrow.

Tobias-Reiper 09-22-2013 05:49 PM

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People... people...

A little perspective here..

Arizona's defense was not only gassed, since they have been on the field for 274 consecutive plays in the 2nd half, the game was over in their minds. And you could tell. All of Robinson's runs came right after the "seal the deal" INT, within 5 minutes of the end of the game, with the score 31-7.

Prior to that series, the Saints were not able to move the ball on the ground at all. 1st half: -6 yds rushing. Before the last series, 66 yards, with 39 of those yards coming on 3 runs, and one was Drew's scramble, so the other run plays, 21 for 17. Prior to that series, the Cardinals' d-line lived 5 yards inside the Saints backfield. Of course, on that last series, all of the sudden the Saints o-line is able to push the Cards D back and create holes, and Robinson runs 4 for 38... yeah...

So, really, not impressive, at all.

And a quick edit to add: don't get me wrong. I like the young man. I like his style of running (who doesn't like a bruising RB?), but let's not give him any nicknames yet.

And speaking of early nicknames, just a reminder, if you are not following the Jets game, half way through the 4th quarter:

Code:

            CAR      YDS      AVG      TD        LG
B. Powell    18      112      6.2      0        27
A. Green      5      14      2.8      0          7
G. Smith      4      14      3.5      1          8
C. Ivory      4        5      1.3      0          5


QBREES9 09-22-2013 06:22 PM

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Ingram lost his job today, do the Giants still want him.

TheOak 09-22-2013 06:50 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper (Post 530805)
People... people...

A little perspective here..

Arizona's defense was not only gassed, since they have been on the field for 274 consecutive plays in the 2nd half, the game was over in their minds. And you could tell. All of Robinson's runs came right after the "seal the deal" INT, within 5 minutes of the end of the game, with the score 31-7.

Prior to that series, the Saints were not able to move the ball on the ground at all. 1st half: -6 yds rushing. Before the last series, 66 yards, with 39 of those yards coming on 3 runs, and one was Drew's scramble, so the other run plays, 21 for 17. Prior to that series, the Cardinals' d-line lived 5 yards inside the Saints backfield. Of course, on that last series, all of the sudden the Saints o-line is able to push the Cards D back and create holes, and Robinson runs 4 for 38... yeah...

So, really, not impressive, at all.

And a quick edit to add: don't get me wrong. I like the young man. I like his style of running (who doesn't like a bruising RB?), but let's not give him any nicknames yet.

And speaking of early nicknames, just a reminder, if you are not following the Jets game, half way through the 4th quarter:

Code:

            CAR      YDS      AVG      TD        LG
B. Powell    18      112      6.2      0        27
A. Green      5      14      2.8      0          7
G. Smith      4      14      3.5      1          8
C. Ivory      4        5      1.3      0          5


Ok... We run him in the second 1/2. Happy now?

jlouhill 09-22-2013 06:59 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 530880)
Ok... We run him in the second 1/2. Happy now?

No, we run him with 5 minutes left in the game. That should make him happy-happy-happy. ;)

arsaint 09-22-2013 07:49 PM

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I'd like to see what he can do from the start.

On one hand, Arizona's D was not fresh.

However, on the other hand, EVERYONE knew when he lined up out there that we were running. There was no illusion that we were not trying to run out the clock...

|Mitch| 09-22-2013 08:21 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by arsaint (Post 530932)
On one hand, Arizona's D was not fresh.

They weren't just tired, they had given up...

Tobias-Reiper 09-22-2013 08:43 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by arsaint (Post 530932)
I'd like to see what he can do from the start.

On one hand, Arizona's D was not fresh.

However, on the other hand, EVERYONE knew when he lined up out there that we were running. There was no illusion that we were not trying to run out the clock...

By the same token, EVERYONE knew the game was over, the Arizona D completely stopped pressing, and there was no illusion that Arizona was going to mount a comeback, and I am pretty sure the Cardinals wanted the clock to run out so they could leave.

The Dude 09-22-2013 08:56 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by arsaint (Post 530932)
I'd like to see what he can do from the start.

On one hand, Arizona's D was not fresh.

However, on the other hand, EVERYONE knew when he lined up out there that we were running. There was no illusion that we were not trying to run out the clock...

aT least he got SOMETHING, which is better than any of our backs have done. I was just happy to see a run period.

BIGEASY504 09-22-2013 09:06 PM

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Nothing against Ingram but he just doesn't fit. I knew we had something in KR when I saw him during the preseason. Maybe we can get an offensive lineman or a pick in 2014

subguy 09-22-2013 10:35 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DemonicSaint (Post 530753)
Ivory was the same way. I think this kid could be a workhorse back as well as a 1-2-3 punch with Sproles, PT, and KR. He is hungry. He is explosive, and doesn't shy away from contact (again, much like Ivory.).

Yes let us hope his durability is nothing like Ivory

Utah_Saint 09-22-2013 11:48 PM

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He did very well in preseason. He did well in garbage time today. I think he deserves a shot at prime time in a real game, to see how he does.

Jack Vegas 09-23-2013 12:44 AM

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Out of all of his carries, the one I liked best was one where he only gained 3 or 4 yards. He didn't have a hole, but he cut back and wriggled through a little spot then he put his shoulders down and buried a linebacker. He runs the ball like he's mad at the world or something.

Saintaintso 09-23-2013 12:46 AM

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Im watching the Film as we speak ... Don't stone me for saying this but his long run he looked very Adrian Peterson ish , He has Burst

Crusader 09-23-2013 03:58 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Saintaintso (Post 531047)
Im watching the Film as we speak ... Don't stone me for saying this but his long run he looked very Adrian Peterson ish , He has Burst

On that one play, I can see the comparison. No I wanna see him do it 500 more times :-D

TheOak 09-23-2013 06:02 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by arsaint (Post 530932)
However, on the other hand, EVERYONE knew when he lined up out there that we were running. There was no illusion that we were not trying to run out the clock...

Precisely what people use as a reason for Ingram. Yet... Knowing, didn't stop him, and knowing didn't help the 3rd ranked rushing defense. Of course the "gassed" reason could be tacked on but Ingram ran against defenses in the 4th qtr also, albeit the defenses were not as good against the run.

That's the problem with rationalizing, sooner or later, someone gets it done in that same exact situation and the reason becomes pretty null.

hagan714 09-23-2013 06:43 AM

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how about this he starts next week and we see what he can do.

arsaint 09-23-2013 09:14 AM

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I still think we should sit Ingram's toe and give KRob a chance to play from the start of the game (not a starter exactly) but give him a few carries along with PT and Sproles, see who has the hit hand, then feed it to that person more.

We sure need to take some pressure off of Brees and the O line.

xan 09-23-2013 09:25 AM

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Our o-line has been atrocious all season. When it counts, our RBs are on their own, and none of them have performed.

Giving credit to Khiry because he ran well against a team that gave up is akin to giving credit to your Bro for losing his virginity to a hooker.

NuNu318 09-23-2013 10:09 AM

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Yes it was in garbage time but lets be real here......Robinson has been outplaying Ingram since training camp. SP made Ingram play most of the 4th preseason game......think about that. I think it says a lot that SP trust him at least to close out the game over Cadet also. Cadet has been active since the season started you would think he would get snaps before a Khiry Robinson who was in street clothes for the first 2 games.

arsaint 09-23-2013 10:11 AM

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Ok, so even if it is a case of the Cards D totally mailing it in, where is the harm in letting KRob have some touches BEFORE the 4th quarter???

Maybe he'll suck, but do we really think Ingram is going to do ANYTHING, even if healthy???

Where's the harm???

Not proclaiming KRob the next AP or Lynch, but he CAN'T do worse than Ingram!

ikecomp 09-23-2013 10:57 AM

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While I'm going to take Krob's performance with a grain of salt given the situation, I would like to see him at least get a few touches. I think ingram has problems with his vision and finding whatever holes are there. I think cadet can be good but I don't trust his ball security. This leaves me with just krob, pt and sproles.

One thing is for sure we need get drews passing attempts down. He's is taken way too many hits this year. If that means, taking a shot with krob than so be it but please do something to protect drew.

PS. Did anyone else notice how bad ben watson looked in pass protection?

SaintsBro 09-23-2013 11:08 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by arsaint (Post 531176)
Ok, so even if it is a case of the Cards D totally mailing it in, where is the harm in letting KRob have some touches BEFORE the 4th quarter???

Maybe he'll suck, but do we really think Ingram is going to do ANYTHING, even if healthy???

Where's the harm???

Not proclaiming KRob the next AP or Lynch, but he CAN'T do worse than Ingram!

He can fumble, which is precisely why they did not give him the ball earlier, until the game was already out of reach for the Cardinals....low risk, high reward....as much as I like him, running Khiry in the 1st quarter of a tie game or 14-7 game against one of the best run D's in the league right now, is high risk, low reward.....better to have someone experienced doing the ball carrying in that situation.

TheOak 09-23-2013 11:14 AM

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I am always curious as to what yardage "counts".. If we are up by 24 the ground yardage is garbage, if we are down by 24 the passing yardage is garbage.. Ifa team gets dominated by another team we say they got their azz whipped but dont * with they gave up at the 1/2, or the other team gave up that's why they threw up a 40 burger..

Performance only counts when the game is within 14? The inconsistency throws me off a bit.

Tobias-Reiper 09-23-2013 11:15 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Saintaintso (Post 531047)
Im watching the Film as we speak ... Don't stone me for saying this but his long run he looked very Adrian Peterson ish , He has Burst

I am piling up fist-sized rocks as I type.

TheOak 09-23-2013 11:19 AM

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We stack reasons why Ingram isn't preforming well, or why Robinson ran well like pancakes at Denny's.

It is what it is, and we burn way to many brain cells trying to figure out what it isn't.


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