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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Definitive \"It\", I like it. 1. leadership-6 2. poise-5 (when sandlot play works when your trailing in the 4th, it is not poise) 3. judgement-6 4. competitiveness-7 5. knowledge of game-3 6. work ethic-9 (he makes all the meetings and ...

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Old 10-13-2004, 01:27 PM   #11
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Definitive \"It\", I like it.

1. leadership-6
2. poise-5 (when sandlot play works when your trailing in the 4th, it is not poise)
3. judgement-6
4. competitiveness-7
5. knowledge of game-3
6. work ethic-9 (he makes all the meetings and he takes care of himself)
7. decision making-4
8. ability to read coverages-2
9. touch-3
10. accuracy-4 (he is always in the area, but rarely right on target)
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Old 10-13-2004, 02:37 PM   #12
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And so far, the average versus Whodat for each ranking is: [Drum Roll]

AVERAGE____ Whodat
1.) 5.3 ______ 1.) 4
2.) 4.8 ______ 2.) 3
3.) 5.8 ______ 3.) 3
4.) 7.0 ______ 4.) 3
5.) 4.6 ______ 5.) 1
6.) 7.6 ______ 6.) 3
7.) 5.3 ______ 7.) 2
8.) 3.5 ______ 8.) 2
9.) 3.0 ______ 9.) 0
10.) 5.8 ______ 10.) 4

And so -- so far -- my theory holds true. Whodat judges Aaron Brooks more harshly than not only me, but generaly everybody.

Thanks Whodat, for the little poll. In this case it appears the numbers (and me) don\'t lie. LMAO



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Old 10-13-2004, 02:51 PM   #13
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And so -- so far -- my theory holds true. Whodat judges Aaron Brooks more harshly than not only me, but generaly everybody.

Thanks Whodat, for the little poll. In this case it appears the numbers (and me) don\'t lie. LMAO
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Uh, Saintfan. I hate to point out that the emporer has no clothes but you didn\'t give a score lower than a 7. I\'m not sure that your scores absolve you of showing any unreasonable pro Erin Brooks bias. It also seems that your numbers hardly put you in the mainstream of opinion on Brooks. If anything, your numbers and WhoDat\'s numbers both work to skew the results.
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Uh, Saintfan. I hate to point out that the emporer has no clothes but you didn\'t give a score lower than a 7. I\'m not sure that your scores absolve you of showing any unreasonable pro Erin Brooks bias. It also seems that your numbers hardly put you in the mainstream of opinion on Brooks. If anything, your numbers and WhoDat\'s numbers both work to skew the results.
This is hardly the point. I\'m accused of favoring Brooks to the Nth degree. Whodat attempt here (whethre he denies it or not) was to discredit my opinion. My argument has always been that he is a harsh -- dare I say too harsh -- critic of Brooks. The numbers for his little poll show that don\'t they?
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I think the issue is whether this player can adjust and adapt when not getting adequate direction from the coordinators. The best in the league co-craft strategies with the coaching staff, and have ample room and charter to improvise. The preparation for an opponent is reflected in the observed patience and purposeful adaptation to that opponent. This discussion thread hinges on the marriage of the player and the system. If neither are engaged to their fullest, we see the abject horror of losing to the equivalent of mediocre college teams (az & tb).

1. leadership - 2 - How many first quarter drives end up in scores?
2. poise - 3 - Deteriorating pocket usually results in ball on carpet
3. judgment - 4 - Should run more to open up underneath routes and crosses
4. competitiveness - 6 - He has a lot of comebacks, but is this trip necessary?
5. knowledge of game - 2 - what kind of help is he getting from the coordinators?
6. work ethic - 7 - He tries hard
7. decision-making - 4 - How is this different from judgment?
8. ability to read coverages - 5 - No better or worse given his protection
9. touch - 3 - I think it\'s impossible for him to run a screen play
10. accuracy - 4 - hits a still receiver with the best, almost always forces our receivers to reach behind their routes

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This is hardly the point. I\'m accused of favoring Brooks to the Nth degree. Whodat attempt here (whethre he denies it or not) was to discredit my opinion. My argument has always been that he is a harsh -- dare I say too harsh -- critic of Brooks. The numbers for his little poll show that don\'t they?
Ummm, so the point is to attack WhoDat?
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Look BMG, you can defend Whodat \'til it hurts, but it\'s CLEAR you haven\'t done your homework. Whodat brought Brooks into this thread, not me, or hadn\'t you noticed? He claimes he\'s fair in his assesment of Brooks. I disagree. The little \"poll\" was his idea, and it backfired. If you see pointing that out as an \"attack\" then I guess I\'m just not quite sure what it is you\'re lookin at.
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Look BMG, you can defend Whodat \'til it hurts, but it\'s CLEAR you haven\'t done your homework. Whodat brought Brooks into this thread, not me, or hadn\'t you noticed? He claimes he\'s fair in his assesment of Brooks. I disagree. The little \"poll\" was his idea, and it backfired. If you see pointing that out as an \"attack\" then I guess I\'m just not quite sure what it is you\'re lookin at.
I don\'t think I\'m defending WhoDat. (nice use of CLEAR by the way :rockon:. Contrary to what people say you can be really funny). I think what the little poll shows is that you and WhoDat are on opposite sides of the spectrum. (Interestingly enough I\'m somewhere in the middle, closer to the WhoDat side, but definately in the middle). I\'m not sure it shows an agenda, just polar opposite takes.
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Oh, we\'re on opposite sides for sure, and I\'m fine with that, but I\'m not trying to draw a line in the sand and polarize the board. I\'m simply saying he\'s harder on Brooks than most. He denies this. He says he\'s fair. He\'s entitled to his opinion, but then so am I and so are you. I think his little \"poll\" shows he\'s harder than most. He picked the categories and the 1-10 ranking system. I just averaged up the scores and made a comparison. This isn\'t an \"attack\" on Whodat. If JOESAM had done the averaging would it have been an attack then?

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I like you both but ya\'ll ain\'t getting me into this. :sulkoff:
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