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Old 10-01-2013, 08:36 AM   #1
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Brees/Payton era of breaking the rules

We have all heard the age old adages below that came from a different NFL. We have broken them all so far and its time to recognize that your daddy's NFL is not the same game today, and we do not have to have a tall QB with a great ground game and a top defense to win convincingly.


Drew has only a 20% chance of ever playing again - How did that work out.
QBs need to be tall - Drew is 6"
Defenses Win Championships - Super Bowl 44 we were ranked 25th
A running game is a must - 4-0 we have no ground game this season.
Marino's season passing record will never be broken - Its broken.
The Aints will never win a Super Bowl -

We have done all of this with a lot of no name players (at the time they were picked up).

It is time to become comfortable with our lack of a rushing game, and understand that Drew is not throwing his arm out. By all means it could be better, but it is not a requirement.


We are fine and have done more with less on both sides of the ball.
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Old 10-01-2013, 08:48 AM   #2
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Dammit Oak! What are you trying to do. Goodell sees all these rules we've broken, he'll suspend the whole team.

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Old 10-01-2013, 08:51 AM   #3
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Unitas' record of consecutive games with a TD wasn't supposed to ever fall. And Drew is breaking so many records that he's breaking or matching his own records.

Who dat?
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Dammit Oak! What are you trying to do. Goodell sees all these rules we've broken, he'll suspend the whole team.

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Old 10-01-2013, 09:07 AM   #5
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Running game looks bad on the stat sheet, but if they can run the ball 20-25 times a game between the tackles and keep throwing those little flare passes that function as extended handoffs then the offense will maintain some balance.

I still don't like the ZBS for this team. There was no reason to change anything and it's obvious that DLP and Grubbs especially are struggling with those concepts. Bye week might be a good time to re-evaluate what they are trying to do there.
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Old 10-01-2013, 09:08 AM   #6
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Goddammit I want Shawn to snatch that trophy from Rogers horrible hands........the ultimate f u
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Old 10-01-2013, 09:32 AM   #7
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Historically, a good running game allows you to control the clock. By grinding things out you keep the ball away from the other team.

2013 Saints:
Rushing: 81.3 yds per game, ranked 25th.
Time of Possession: 34.17 minutes per game, ranked 2nd.

So, Payton/Brees run a ball control passing attack that only turns to the run at the end of the game when we have a lead and the D is gassed.
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Old 10-01-2013, 11:06 AM   #8
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Add Johnny U's streak to that list, and I think we are good.

Speaking of the lack of run game, it is nothing new that the Saints use the short pass instead of the running game. I had many a discussion about that when Reggie was here: people going off on Reggie not being a RB, to which I responded "right".I did a bit of research, and it turned out that the majority of Bush's catches happened behind the LoS.
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Old 10-01-2013, 11:30 AM   #9
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Broken records you say:

Drew Brees National Football League records

Most consecutive games with at least 1 TD pass - 54 [34]
Single season passing leader – 5,476 yards (2011)
Highest completion percentage, season – 71.2% (2011)
Most Seasons with 5,000+ passing yards - 3 (2008, 2011, 2012)
Most completions in a season – 468 (2011)
Most 400+ completion seasons, career – 5 (2007-2008, 2010-2012)
Most consecutive 400+ completion seasons, career – 3 (2010-2012)
Most consecutive 350+ completion seasons, career – 7 (2006-2012)
Most consecutive seasons with 4,000+ passing yards – 7 (2006-2012)
Most consecutive seasons with 4,000+ passing yards and 30+ Touchdowns – 5, 2008-current
Most consecutive seasons with 5,000+ passing yards – 2 (2011-2012)
Most consecutive seasons with 5,000+ passing yards and 30+ Touchdowns – 2, 2011-current
Most games with 5+ touchdown passes, career – 7
Most games with 5+ touchdown passes and no interceptions, career – 5
Most seasons with 70% pass completion rate (minimum 100 attempts per season) - 2 (2009 & 2011)
Most games with 30+ completions and 80% pass completion rate, career - 4
Most games with more than 80% pass completion rate, career (minimum 20 attempts per game) - 12
Most games with more than 80% pass completion rate and no interceptions, career (minimum 20 attempts per game) - 10
Most games with more than 80% pass completion rate, season (minimum 20 attempts per game) - 3 (tied with Ben Roethlisberger and Brett Favre)
Most games with more than 70% pass completion rate, season (minimum 20 attempts per game) - 10 (2011)
Most games with more than 70% pass completion rate and no interceptions, career (minimum 20 attempts per game) - 34
Most games, 250+ yards passing, season - 16 (2011)
Most 300+ yard passing games in a season – 13 (2011)
Most consecutive 300+ yard passing games – 9 (2011–2012, 2012-present)
Most consecutive 300+ yard passing games (regular season and postseason combined)– 11 (2011-2012)
Most games with 3+ TD's and 300 yds. passing - 38
Most passing yards in first half of game— 346 (11/4/2007 vs. Jaguars)
Most games, 350+ yards passing, career - 37
Most games, 350+ yards passing, season - 8 (2011)
Most TD passes over 70+ yards - 13 (2006–present)
Most consecutive games with 350+ yards passing – 4 (Weeks 3,4,5,6; 2011)
Most passing yards in a season in away games - 2,852 (2011)
Most consecutive 400+ yard passing games - 2 (postseason games 2012) - tied with several other players
Most consecutive games with 450+ yards passing – 2 (postseason games 2012)
Most games with 400 yards passing and no interceptions, career - 9 combined (7 regular season, 2 postseason)
Most games with 20+ completions, season – 16 (2010-2012)
Most consecutive games with at least 20 completions – 56 (2009–present) [35]
Most games with 30+ completions, season – 9 (2011)
Most games with 30+ completions, career – 33
Most games with 30+ completions and no interceptions, career – 17
Most games with 39+ completions, career – 3 combined (1 regular season, 2 playoff games)
Most passing completions per game, career – 23.83 comp/game
Most passing attempts per game, career – 36.29 att/game
Most passing attempts per game, postseason- 43.56 att/game
Most passing yards per game, career – 272.14 yards/game
Most passing completions per game, season – 29.25 comp/game (2011)
Most passing completions per game, postseason - 29.1 comp/game
Most passing yards per game, season – 342.25 yards/game (2011)
Highest post-season completion percentage, career – 66.8%
Lowest post-season interception percentage, career – 1.02%
Highest average passing yards per game in postseason- 331.1 (9 games)
Most completions in a Super Bowl – 32 (Super Bowl XLIV; tied with Tom Brady)
Most completions in a playoff game – 40 (at San Francisco, 1/14/2012)
Most pass attempts in a playoff game with zero interceptions – 60 (at Seattle, 1/8/2011)[36]
Most pass completions in a playoff game with zero interceptions – 39 (at Seattle, 1/8/2011)[36]
Most passing yards in a playoff game with zero interceptions – 466 (vs. Detroit, 1/7/2012)
Most consecutive pass attempts without an interception during the playoffs – 226 (January 21, 2007 – January 14, 2012)
Most Consecutive Playoff Games, 2+ Touchdown Passes - 7 (2006 – present) (tied with Terry Bradshaw and Joe Montana)
Most Playoff Games, 400+ yards passing - 3 (2011-2012)(Consecutive)
Most Consecutive Playoff Games, 450+ yards passing - 2 (2012)
Best Passing Touchdown to Interception ratio in postseason - 5.5-1 (22 TD Passes - 4 interceptions)
Best Completions to Interception ratio in postseason - 65.5-1 (262 Completions - 4 interceptions)
Best Passing Yards to Interception ratio in postseason - 745-1 (2,980 Passing Yards - 4 interceptions)
Best Passing Touchdown per Game Average, Postseason - 2.444 (22 TD Passes/9 postseason games)
Most consecutive postseason games with 30+ pass completions- 4 (2/7/2010–present)
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Broken records you say:

Drew Brees National Football League records

Most consecutive games with at least 1 TD pass - 54 [34]
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Most consecutive postseason games with 30+ pass completions- 4 (2/7/2010–present)
By the time Brees retires he should own the book.
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