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Old 10-10-2013, 07:59 PM   #41
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Don't care about Ingram. I care about Strief. That is not good news.
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Old 10-10-2013, 08:58 PM   #42
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To me the Ingram thing is all about opportunity cost. Fans are upset about his lack of production because of the opportunity cost of what the Saints could of had with the picks given up to get him. Payton & Loomis thought they were picking a back that could get a 3rd and 1 or a 4th and 1 even when the defense knew he was coming or else they wouldn't of spent so high (2nd round 2011 + 1st round 2012). Because the Saints didn't use the picks for defense (sorely needed in 2011 & 2012), everytime Ingram is stopped with little or no gain, the frustration builds.
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Old 10-11-2013, 12:12 AM   #43
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Or maybe the frustration builds because he simply doesn't produce. I don't care whether he's a first-round draft pick or a seventh-round draft pick. His performance has been unacceptable either way.

I want so much for him to succeed because I love the way he runs when it's working. I could watch his highlight video all day. It's that much fun to watch him run. And I truly thought after last year that he had turned the corner and was so looking forward to seeing him have a huge season in 2013.

But that didn't happen. and those times when it's working are so few and far between. Meanwhile we've got a real good chance at another Super Bowl and can't afford to keep feeding the ball to a running back who does not produce.
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Old 10-11-2013, 12:39 AM   #44
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Meanwhile we've got a real good chance at another Super Bowl and can't afford to keep feeding the ball to a running back who does not produce.
You act like we have a superb run game except when M.I. is in the game... We haven't had a decent rushing game all season.

It got a little better last week, due more to better O-Line play(confirmed with Drew getting better pass protection as well)
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Originally Posted by DrewBrees15 View Post
To me the Ingram thing is all about opportunity cost. Fans are upset about his lack of production because of the opportunity cost of what the Saints could of had with the picks given up to get him. Payton & Loomis thought they were picking a back that could get a 3rd and 1 or a 4th and 1 even when the defense knew he was coming or else they wouldn't of spent so high (2nd round 2011 + 1st round 2012). Because the Saints didn't use the picks for defense (sorely needed in 2011 & 2012), everytime Ingram is stopped with little or no gain, the frustration builds.
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He's going to tear it up Sunday !
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Old 10-11-2013, 01:43 AM   #47
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Can't prove anything from the bench.

Hasn't proven anything with ball in hand.

It's time to cut bait.

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Old 10-11-2013, 04:14 AM   #48
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You act like we have a superb run game except when M.I. is in the game...
Actually, no, I wasn't acting like that at all, and I'm not sure why you would even say such a thing.

What I am sure of is that Ingram's performance so far is clearly and vastly inferior to the three other running backs who have carried the ball for the Saints this season.
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For some reason I still feel khiry seems more dangerous, at least he looks like he's trying to beat tackles or forcing forward to gain those extra yards.

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To me the Ingram thing is all about opportunity cost. Fans are upset about his lack of production because of the opportunity cost of what the Saints could of had with the picks given up to get him. Payton & Loomis thought they were picking a back that could get a 3rd and 1 or a 4th and 1 even when the defense knew he was coming or else they wouldn't of spent so high (2nd round 2011 + 1st round 2012). Because the Saints didn't use the picks for defense (sorely needed in 2011 & 2012), everytime Ingram is stopped with little or no gain, the frustration builds.
I agree sort of. There was a stat last year that showed Ingram was near the very top of the league in 3rd down conversions. It's true it been bad this year but it hasn't always been bad for him.
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