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I just automatically assume that all refs are against the Saints, permanently, and it's completely hostile, 11 against 18, you have to beat the other team AND the refs, every time the Saints step on the field. I mean pointing out obvious mistakes is fine, but bellyaching and making a case that it influenced the outcome of the game, "we wuz robbed," etc, I just don't understand that kind of thinking after a loss. You have to beat the refs and the other team, in every game, it's always been like that.

There was nothing in this game anywhere remotely close to an "INTERTOUCHDOWNCEPTION" screwup like the famous Packers/Seahawks game, so there's no reason to bellyache. Although the Drew pick was a definite busted play, you could tell because portions of both the Saints and the Patriots were NOT reacting to the snap of the ball.

It is a common thing for refs to "clip the wings" of a superior team, or to give a little "home cooking" to the home team, or to give "Golden Boy Superstar" the calls he wants or needs, whether it's Brady or Clay Matthews or even Brees. That happens all the time.

Back to Jeanpierre's original point, there is also ref home cooking especially in a game like the Bears game, where a superior team is starting to separate and clearly run away with the game against the home team, early on. Which is what was happening against the Bears. Then the refs will gently "clip the wings" of the team that's starting to run away with the game, and say "nope, can't keep doing that," to slow the faster, better team down and give the other losing team a shot. That happens all the time, and not just with the Saints. But that's where stuff like your bad spots and your ticky tacky holding calls come into play.

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And that is despite the fact that the Corrente officiating krewe did not always give less penalties against New England and that New England have been a relative powerhouse overall in that period.
Tony Corrente NFL Official Statistics - Pro-Football-Reference.com

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Good Catch UK WhoDat...

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Why was the timeout brees called that didn't get awarded factor into the game? 2 reasons
1. They get a pick that leads to 3 points
2. We lost by 3!
Also the offsides that was called a false start would've put us in field goal range if we wouldn't have gained another yard!
AGAIN WE LOST BY 3!!! 6 point swing on that one mistake by the REFS!!

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What I notice is that if a team wins -- no one from the winning team discusses questionable or clearly unfair play calling by the officials. Seems to me everyone needs to get in the complaint department line to talk about poor officiating after a game -- especially the winning team. What would happen if Bill Belicheck after the game said, "We need to review some of the officials calls....I think they gave us the game." Until that happens, I agree that complaining about the officiating is probably pointless.

However, that does not mean that poor play calling doesn't matter or have an impact. We all know the infinitesimal margin of error between winning and losing in games between two well matched teams. A few key plays generally turn a game. Why do we let coaches challenge official's calls? Because, it matters.

So, yes, we need to complain -- and not just the losers.

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I think the poor officiating is a result of a couple things.

#1 - No one wants to see replacement refs.

#2 - Current refs I feel have a stranglehold on the NFL and can do as they please, which could explain how bias they are to 1 team in any given game. This of course speaking after the ref lockout that happened last season.

After that point, its been pretty forgone conclusion that they been siding with 1 team since that point last year, its pretty much put both San Fran and Baltimore into the SB last year as well.

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It's kinda' like that in all sports ... Michael Jordan used to get the calls, Wayne Gretzky and now that wus Sydney Crosby, the strike zone is smaller for some batters and larger for some pitchers ... it is what it is, :rolleyes:.

I watch a lot of games on Sunday and there's questionable calls/non-calls in every game. What I don't like seeing is the increase in what I perceive as "make-up" calls, most notably in the pass interference area, where the refs miss an obvious PI call on one play, then call PI on another play that's close, but not PI. Half the time, there's no flag on a play until after a coach or player starts screaming at a ref for the call.

As it's been noted, it's becoming almost impossible to defend a pass and there's been an increase in knee hits/injuries to receivers as everyone tries to adjust to the new 'player safety' mindset.

Lotta' split-second decision making on a myriad of rules/regulations going on out there, there's gonna' be mistakes ...

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The Refs usually miss a lot on both teams, but the blatant holding on the game winning pass was ridiculous.

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hehe