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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by UK_WhoDat And that is despite the fact that the Corrente officiating krewe did not always give less penalties against New England and that New England have been a relative powerhouse overall in that period. Tony Corrente NFL ...

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Old 10-14-2013, 06:26 PM   #91
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And that is despite the fact that the Corrente officiating krewe did not always give less penalties against New England and that New England have been a relative powerhouse overall in that period.
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Old 10-15-2013, 07:02 PM   #92
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Why was the timeout brees called that didn't get awarded factor into the game? 2 reasons
1. They get a pick that leads to 3 points
2. We lost by 3!
Also the offsides that was called a false start would've put us in field goal range if we wouldn't have gained another yard!
AGAIN WE LOST BY 3!!! 6 point swing on that one mistake by the REFS!!
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Old 10-15-2013, 08:01 PM   #93
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What I notice is that if a team wins -- no one from the winning team discusses questionable or clearly unfair play calling by the officials. Seems to me everyone needs to get in the complaint department line to talk about poor officiating after a game -- especially the winning team. What would happen if Bill Belicheck after the game said, "We need to review some of the officials calls....I think they gave us the game." Until that happens, I agree that complaining about the officiating is probably pointless.

However, that does not mean that poor play calling doesn't matter or have an impact. We all know the infinitesimal margin of error between winning and losing in games between two well matched teams. A few key plays generally turn a game. Why do we let coaches challenge official's calls? Because, it matters.

So, yes, we need to complain -- and not just the losers.
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Old 10-15-2013, 11:24 PM   #94
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What I notice is that if a team wins -- no one from the winning team discusses questionable or clearly unfair play calling by the officials. Seems to me everyone needs to get in the complaint department line to talk about poor officiating after a game -- especially the winning team. What would happen if Bill Belicheck after the game said, "We need to review some of the officials calls....I think they gave us the game." Until that happens, I agree that complaining about the officiating is probably pointless.

However, that does not mean that poor play calling doesn't matter or have an impact. We all know the infinitesimal margin of error between winning and losing in games between two well matched teams. A few key plays generally turn a game. Why do we let coaches challenge official's calls? Because, it matters.

So, yes, we need to complain -- and not just the losers.
I think the poor officiating is a result of a couple things.

#1 - No one wants to see replacement refs.

#2 - Current refs I feel have a stranglehold on the NFL and can do as they please, which could explain how bias they are to 1 team in any given game. This of course speaking after the ref lockout that happened last season.

After that point, its been pretty forgone conclusion that they been siding with 1 team since that point last year, its pretty much put both San Fran and Baltimore into the SB last year as well.
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Old 10-16-2013, 05:07 AM   #95
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It's kinda' like that in all sports ... Michael Jordan used to get the calls, Wayne Gretzky and now that wus Sydney Crosby, the strike zone is smaller for some batters and larger for some pitchers ... it is what it is, .

I watch a lot of games on Sunday and there's questionable calls/non-calls in every game. What I don't like seeing is the increase in what I perceive as "make-up" calls, most notably in the pass interference area, where the refs miss an obvious PI call on one play, then call PI on another play that's close, but not PI. Half the time, there's no flag on a play until after a coach or player starts screaming at a ref for the call.

As it's been noted, it's becoming almost impossible to defend a pass and there's been an increase in knee hits/injuries to receivers as everyone tries to adjust to the new 'player safety' mindset.

Lotta' split-second decision making on a myriad of rules/regulations going on out there, there's gonna' be mistakes ...

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Old 10-16-2013, 07:46 AM   #96
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What I don't like seeing is the increase in what I perceive as "make-up" calls, most notably in the pass interference area, where the refs miss an obvious PI call on one play, then call PI on another play that's close, but not PI.
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The Refs usually miss a lot on both teams, but the blatant holding on the game winning pass was ridiculous.
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Oh, sort of like the "tell your boobs to stop staring at my eyes" argument?
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Keeping in mind that the League not only sets the schedule, but who stirs the pot...

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What I want to know is what's T Nate Solder's Right Hand Doing?!?

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