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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by Danno Agreed, but I look at it this way... even with the vast majority of calls in New England's favor, and the Saints having back-to-back road games (a killer), playing one of the AFC's leading Superbowl contenders ...

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Old 10-14-2013, 10:11 AM   #81
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Originally Posted by Danno View Post
Agreed, but I look at it this way... even with the vast majority of calls in New England's favor, and the Saints having back-to-back road games (a killer), playing one of the AFC's leading Superbowl contenders coming off a loss, it still took a last second miracle with a blatent offensive hold for them to pull off the win.
Good Call - we're definitely on everyone's radar now...

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We have 10 games left, and I don't see more than 3 or 4 losses.

We'll finish 11-5, maybe 12-4 if we get a few bounces our way.

We'll finish 15-1 if we get the same kind of favoritism New England got yesterday.
We're going 13-3 barring major injury...
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Old 10-14-2013, 10:13 AM   #82
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I'll be pissed for at least 2 weeks. I feel like giving a Denny Green speech. we let them off the hook and afc team or not it sucks.

mostly cause I f--king hate that GQ mfer
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Some questioning the hit across the middle in New England, It was a shoulder to the chest. No head or neck contact. Not a foul.
Yeah, but there was shoulder-to-helmet contact/defenseless player and I see why they called it, though I vehemently disagree with them calling that one, ... it was so obvious Bush was doing everything in his power not to put a flagrant hit on the guy but still do the job the Saints sent him out there to do ... poor judgment and erring on the side of caution by the refs, IMO.
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Originally Posted by SloMotion View Post
Yeah, but there was shoulder-to-helmet contact/defenseless player and I see why they called it, though I vehemently disagree with them calling that one, ... it was so obvious Bush was doing everything in his power not to put a flagrant hit on the guy but still do the job the Saints sent him out there to do ... poor judgment and erring on the side of caution by the refs, IMO.
The shoulder to helmet contact was not from a shoulder going into the side of the helmet, it was from the helmet going into the shoulder as the defender was right in front of him. There is a difference there.
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poor judgment and erring on the side of caution by the refs, IMO.
Or just inept at their jobs.
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The shoulder to helmet contact was not from a shoulder going into the side of the helmet, it was from the helmet going into the shoulder as the defender was right in front of him. There is a difference there.
Oh, sort of like the "tell your boobs to stop staring at my eyes" argument?
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Oh, sort of like the "tell your boobs to stop staring at my eyes" argument?
There is a lot of sassy floating around here for a Monday.
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There is a lot of sassy floating around here for a Monday.
I know, Caddieman even showed up and took a poke at me, ... appropriately in the Ultimate Smack Talk forum and according to board policy, I might add, .

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Re: Refs: Home Cooking?

I just automatically assume that all refs are against the Saints, permanently, and it's completely hostile, 11 against 18, you have to beat the other team AND the refs, every time the Saints step on the field. I mean pointing out obvious mistakes is fine, but bellyaching and making a case that it influenced the outcome of the game, "we wuz robbed," etc, I just don't understand that kind of thinking after a loss. You have to beat the refs and the other team, in every game, it's always been like that.

There was nothing in this game anywhere remotely close to an "INTERTOUCHDOWNCEPTION" screwup like the famous Packers/Seahawks game, so there's no reason to bellyache. Although the Drew pick was a definite busted play, you could tell because portions of both the Saints and the Patriots were NOT reacting to the snap of the ball.

It is a common thing for refs to "clip the wings" of a superior team, or to give a little "home cooking" to the home team, or to give "Golden Boy Superstar" the calls he wants or needs, whether it's Brady or Clay Matthews or even Brees. That happens all the time.

Back to Jeanpierre's original point, there is also ref home cooking especially in a game like the Bears game, where a superior team is starting to separate and clearly run away with the game against the home team, early on. Which is what was happening against the Bears. Then the refs will gently "clip the wings" of the team that's starting to run away with the game, and say "nope, can't keep doing that," to slow the faster, better team down and give the other losing team a shot. That happens all the time, and not just with the Saints. But that's where stuff like your bad spots and your ticky tacky holding calls come into play.
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Since 2009, hes worked one New England game per season all of them wins for the Patriots. - per WEEI (An Over the Top 24/7 Sports Talk, News Station in New England...

It Is What It Is Report: Tony Corrente will work as referee for Patriots-Saints
And that is despite the fact that the Corrente officiating krewe did not always give less penalties against New England and that New England have been a relative powerhouse overall in that period.
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