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xan 10-13-2013 06:44 PM

Loss to pats on Payton and Brees
 
The defense screwed up, but this one was on an offense that could not get a single first down in the last two drives of the final three minutes because of monumentally stupid playcalling. Pitches!?? Naked Bootlegs??

Holy shinola. RIDICULOUS

Vrillon82 10-13-2013 06:45 PM

Re: Loss to pats on Payton and Brees
 
Officiating.

We expected the game to be like this, but the piss poor officiating is what did the Saints in in the end.

73Saint 10-13-2013 06:47 PM

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No way, that's on Brees and Peyton. Ridiculous to give Brady the ball twice in 2:33.

hitta 10-13-2013 06:48 PM

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Throw the ball, get a first down, win. I don't know what the hell we were doing.

|Mitch| 10-13-2013 06:49 PM

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Who cares, it's a loss to an AFC opponent...

AliJee 10-13-2013 06:50 PM

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Oh man that was heart breaking this one was on the offense not being able to get that first down

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nola_swammi 10-13-2013 06:53 PM

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What happen to petal to the metal on offense???? Geesh!!!! Come on Payton you're better than this

hagan714 10-13-2013 06:55 PM

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ok SP got too cute like he always does once or twice a year. PT is getting 3 to 5 yards a carry in between the tackles why would run outside? i am stumped enough of the weird offensive play calling today

now the defense was not good at all today. almost all the pats drives ended with miscues not plays by us. the DL stunk the place up. they were flat all game. a handful of good plays does not change that

The secondary got smoked by WR that thank good dropped almost as many passes as they caught.

the only group that played well on defense seemed to be our ILB.

no time off in the bye week every one to the tape room then hit the field. worse game of the year as a team

frydaddy 10-13-2013 06:58 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 538029)
Who cares, it's a loss to an AFC opponent...

That may be, but this is one that shouldn't have happened. Some of the worst officiating I've seen, coupled with the general ineptitude of the offense for most of the game, especially when it mattered most... This hurts.. Maybe I shouldn't care, but I do.. Not saying the sky is falling, but damnit, this one was ours

|Mitch| 10-13-2013 06:58 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 538044)
ok SP got too cute like he always does once or twice a year. PT is getting 3 to 5 yards a carry in between the tackles why would run outside? i am stumped enough of the weird offensive play calling today

Seriously? After two minutes they were expecting run, Robinson and Thomas were getting nothing up the middle... A incomplete pass stops the clock, what else was there left to do?

If a run to the outside would have got the first, SP would be praised a hero...

|Mitch| 10-13-2013 07:01 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by frydaddy (Post 538050)
Maybe I shouldn't care, but I do.. Not saying the sky is falling, but damnit, this one was ours

A loss before the bye this was the one to lose. This team has outplayed everyone's expectations so far. Just be happy that we are 5-1 with the loss to a non-division/conference opponent

Boutte 10-13-2013 07:02 PM

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We were running it down their throats in the4th. Running it to get the first made sense. Credit N.E. d. Why does every loss have to be blamed on some one? We were playing Tom Brady and Billy Boy in their house after a rough three game stretch.

I'm proud of the way we came back after it looked like we were going to get blown out. Wish I could go to the Airport.

hagan714 10-13-2013 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 538052)
Seriously? After two minutes they were expecting run, Robinson and Thomas were getting nothing up the middle... A incomplete pass stops the clock, what else was there left to do?

If a run to the outside would have got the first, SP would be praised a hero...


I was referring to the second half all together sorry. the backs are hammering the rock why get away from it? Drew was not having his best game so let the RB do their thing.

i am stumped on how SP can let Brady get the ball so many times with 3 minutes left on the clock. yes i am sick about it. i had to sit in a room of pats fans pointing this out to me all the way to the end.

play prevent defense against Brady is crazy.

Halo 10-13-2013 07:04 PM

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We were NOT going undefeated.
Get that wet dream out your heads.
We didn't get the job done. End of story.
Only loss is to an AFC team.
Enjoy 5-1 at the bye

saintsfan403 10-13-2013 07:05 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 538055)
A loss before the bye this was the one to lose. This team has outplayed everyone's expectations so far. Just be happy that we are 5-1 with the loss to a non-division/conference opponent

I agree with you on the fact that it's just before the bye/AFC opponent and I'll even throw you in the fact that it's the pats at home, it just sucks that we pulled defeat from the jaws of victory and our play calling went into 'Ask Madden' mode in the final 2 minutes when we shoulda been throwing underneath on 1st down. Worst thing about this is that instead of setting the pace and letting Seattle keep up with us we have to go into their house and try and pull one out to keep home field.

hagan714 10-13-2013 07:05 PM

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i have two weeks of crap to listen to here in boston

Halo 10-13-2013 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 538065)
i have two weeks of crap to listen to here in boston

OKAY, you have every right to be ticked off lol.

spkb25 10-13-2013 07:06 PM

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I put this on no one. It is a loss, can't win them all

jlouhill 10-13-2013 07:06 PM

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I don't mind losing a hard fought game, but this one hurt. We had it and handed right back to Brady. Got to give credit to the Pat's D. They played really well. It just wasn't our finest effort. I'm happy to be 5-1. And as others have pointed out if we were to lose this is one of the ones to do so being it's to an AFC team. We'll be alright.

hagan714 10-13-2013 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Halo (Post 538067)
OKAY, you have every right to be ticked off lol.

plus i have to pay off my bets. grrrrrrrrrr x(

blackangold 10-13-2013 07:07 PM

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Carmichael needs to take over the play calling IMO. SP has been calling games poorly all year and it finally came back to bite us.

9thWardDesire 10-13-2013 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 538029)
Who cares, it's a loss to an AFC opponent...

We do! It still count on the W/L record. The Saints are jockeying for postseason position. It's best to get it out the way early so we won't find them in the same position that the Cowboys found themselves in for the last two seasons....

rezburna 10-13-2013 07:12 PM

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It was Brees. Not Payton.

Lord_Saint83 10-13-2013 07:12 PM

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Yes the officiating was questionable but to me its bad two minute management on the o. U never give brady or manning or brees that many tries to win the game after the d stops then twice. Better the pats than the bears conference wise but i did like the fight the saints showed to come back from a ten point deficit in a very hostile foxboro.

WW_Who_Dat 10-13-2013 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 538052)
Seriously? After two minutes they were expecting run, Robinson and Thomas were getting nothing up the middle... A incomplete pass stops the clock, what else was there left to do?

If a run to the outside would have got the first, SP would be praised a hero...

Seriously ... We ran it and they stopped the clock ... They knew where going to run it ... They had 8 defenders in the box expecting the run... Throw the ball at some point for God sake when you've gained 3 yards in 5 running plays ... This loss is not on our Defense.

The definition of insanity is doing the same over and over and expecting a different result.

hagan714 10-13-2013 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 538079)
It was Brees. Not Payton.

Drew was off sure but this was not SP finest game either.

maybe Drew just does not have faith in the young wr yet. this is a game were we really missed lance. Drew would have turned to him all game long as a third option

burningmetal 10-13-2013 07:19 PM

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"A loss before the bye this was the one to lose. This team has outplayed everyone's expectations so far. Just be happy that we are 5-1 with the loss to a non-division/conference opponent"


This isn't college football. There are no regular season conference championships. Every win or loss counts. I realize there are tie breakers that come into play, but if we finish one game behind for home field advantage this could be the one that cost us. Why? Because we had the ball with the lead, twice, in the last couple minutes. That is supposed to be a win. Losing is one thing, but giving it away is another.

And yes, this frustration is compounded by the fact that the refs heavily influenced the outcome... I don't know how some fans can say "just be happy" fill in the blank, after any loss.

I'm happy that life goes on, but I'm not happy about giving games away.

saintsfan403 10-13-2013 07:19 PM

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Brees missing Toon really hurt. That was a gimme route.

WW_Who_Dat 10-13-2013 07:20 PM

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Football CEO laid what NE had to do to control the Saints offense ... He called it perfectly ...

Barry from MS 10-13-2013 07:20 PM

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This is on Payton, completely. The D got a freakin' TURNOVER with a 4 point lead with less than 3 minutes left. The Pats had 1 timeout and the 2 minute warning, but we do nothing with the possession and punt it back to Brady with 1:13 left and 70 yards to go with no timeouts. You do not give Brady a 2nd chance to win a game. Payton is squarely to blame for this one. But I'll take 5-1 going into a bye week with a "tougher-than-you'd-think" Buffalo team next. Payton is the blame today, but I have faith he'll get over this quickly.

onebyone 10-13-2013 07:21 PM

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I am not going to put the loss on any one thing. However, if I had to, the inability to run out the clock after Brady's interception would be right up there. That was really terrible and something basic I would think they would have on point.

dueceloose 10-13-2013 07:21 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 538029)
Who cares, it's a loss to an AFC opponent...

it hurts that's why ! sheet

9thWardDesire 10-13-2013 07:21 PM

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In a recent thread, someone mention that the Saints don't need to have a solid running game to be a dominant offense as long as we have Brees, Graham, etc. Well, New England defense (without Woolfork up front) showed us otherwise.

Brees had an okay game, Graham was shut out and then limped out and the running game was hit and miss. Not to mention some questionable play calling at crunch time. It's time for Coach Payton and Co. to flip the script, if you will. They have the Bye Week to straighten this out, if we ever gonna see another Super Bowl. Our defense can only do so much (and at times, it's Letdown City) and our offense has to do better at putting games away at crunch time....

dizzle88 10-13-2013 07:27 PM

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It was almost the exact same scenario in both week 1 and week 2

D bails us out multiple times, offense puts up 400 yards of offense but cant a first down when it really matters

Only difference was we won those games

This game should be an eye opener, every person even announcers were calling this a win with 2:30 left to play and Payton got stupid with the offense and let brady back on the field

TheOak 10-13-2013 07:30 PM

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Xan is right, but on the last play.

Greer on a WR by himself in the back corner of the endzone.... That's gift wrapping a TD for Brady.

No excuse for single coverage.

|Mitch| 10-13-2013 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by burningmetal (Post 538092)
This isn't college football. There are no regular season conference championships. Every win or loss counts. I realize there are tie breakers that come into play, but if we finish one game behind for home field advantage this could be the one that cost us. Why? Because we had the ball with the lead, twice, in the last couple minutes. That is supposed to be a win. Losing is one thing, but giving it away is another.

And yes, this frustration is compounded by the fact that the refs heavily influenced the outcome... I don't know how some fans can say "just be happy" fill in the blank, after any loss.

I'm happy that life goes on, but I'm not happy about giving games away.

Seriously? the only team that can compete with us for HFA is Seattle and guess what they have a loss to the AFC as well. Plus we play them so that's all moot anyway

cmike 10-13-2013 07:33 PM

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I wish I could slap the **** out of somebody right now, that's the only thing that would make me feel better.

dizzle88 10-13-2013 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 538109)
Xan is right, but on the last play.

Greer on a WR by himself in the back corner of the endzone.... That's gift wrapping a TD for Brady.

No excuse for single coverage.

Cant double every receiver though, greer should have been able to hold his own, brady would find holes down the middle with mismatches if we doubled outside

The play calling, clock management and lackluster offense at the end blew it, i wont blame the D, even if keenan lewis made an absolute pathetic decision and threw the patriots receiver out of bounds

burningmetal 10-13-2013 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 538111)
Seriously? the only team that can compete with us for HFA is Seattle and guess what they have a loss to the AFC as well. Plus we play them so that's all moot anyway

You're assuming it only comes down to that. I would love to think this is our last loss, but suppose it isn't? We could win in Seattle and still finish behind them. Would you not look back at this game and say "if only we had finished that game"?

It's not rocket science what I'm explaining to you.

TheOak 10-13-2013 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 538115)
Cant double every receiver though, greer should have been able to hold his own, brady would find holes down the middle with mismatches if we doubled outside

The play calling, clock management and lackluster offense at the end blew it, i wont blame the D, even if keenan lewis made an absolute pathetic decision and threw the patriots receiver out of bounds

Yep.... WTF was that? The Lewis throw out....


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