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alleycat_126 10-27-2013 09:55 PM

Is this what having a shutdown corner feels like?
 
I can't remember us ever having one. Keenan lewis is playing cornerback probably better than I have ever seen any corner play for us.....no not perfect but at the same time, not many mistakes on his side of the field either

Halo 10-27-2013 09:59 PM

Re: Is this what having a shutdown corner feels like?
 
Lewis is a BEAST!!

exile 10-27-2013 10:01 PM

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+Greer. Great set of corners. I'll buy them a round.

Cruize 10-27-2013 10:09 PM

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He is a bargain.

WHODATINCA 10-27-2013 10:25 PM

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I hope his knee is OK!!!

xan 10-27-2013 10:32 PM

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I can't wait to see how he does against dez Bryant

Barry from MS 10-27-2013 10:40 PM

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Lewis is just straight solid. Not spectacular or anything, simply solid. I like it.

QBREES9 10-27-2013 10:57 PM

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Glad the Steeler weren't thinking.

burningmetal 10-27-2013 11:10 PM

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I guess he's been ok. I think when Mike Mckenzie was healthy, he was our best corner of the last couple decades. Lewis made me angry when he almost killed Kenny Vaccaro on a reckless attempt to hit a receiver on a ball out of bounds. Didn't bother to notice his teammate directly in front of him.

All in all though, he's way better than P-Rob. That's all I ever hoped from him.

NonieT 10-27-2013 11:27 PM

Re: Is this what having a shutdown corner feels like?
 
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Originally Posted by burningmetal (Post 541931)
Lewis made me angry when he almost killed Kenny Vaccaro on a reckless attempt to hit a receiver on a ball out of bounds. Didn't bother to notice his teammate directly in front of him.

It was an accident. It wasn't done deliberately.

alleycat_126 10-27-2013 11:28 PM

Re: Is this what having a shutdown corner feels like?
 
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Originally Posted by burningmetal (Post 541931)
I guess he's been ok. I think when Mike Mckenzie was healthy, he was our best corner of the last couple decades. Lewis made me angry when he almost killed Kenny Vaccaro on a reckless attempt to hit a receiver on a ball out of bounds. Didn't bother to notice his teammate directly in front of him.

All in all though, he's way better than P-Rob. That's all I ever hoped from him.

Dude if it was Vaccaro, laying the lumber he would have done the same thing.... Surprised to see that even in a wreckless attempt that Keenan can hit!!!!

Rell&Gold 10-27-2013 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by burningmetal (Post 541931)
I guess he's been ok. I think when Mike Mckenzie was healthy, he was our best corner of the last couple decades. Lewis made me angry when he almost killed Kenny Vaccaro on a reckless attempt to hit a receiver on a ball out of bounds. Didn't bother to notice his teammate directly in front of him.

All in all though, he's way better than P-Rob. That's all I ever hoped from him.

No just more consistent

Rell&Gold 10-27-2013 11:51 PM

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Corey White should start over Greer

amazin15 10-27-2013 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by alleycat_126 (Post 541946)
Surprised to see that even in a wreckless attempt that Keenan can hit!!!!

He did come from the steelers. Pretty sure he learned a thing or two from Polomalu, Clark and those guys.

dizzle88 10-28-2013 03:10 AM

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To say how lewis struggles in preseason, he has kept true to his word and turned his play up a couple knotches

He's having a great season for us

Im still not comfortable about greer though, he got beat badly by stevie johnson on a 60 yard TD pass that was only saved by a holding penalty

Twice in 2 weeks he's let the ball go over his head for a score

Crusader 10-28-2013 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 541958)
Im still not comfortable about greer though, he got beat badly by stevie johnson on a 60 yard TD pass that was only saved by a holding penalty

Twice in 2 weeks he's let the ball go over his head for a score

Stevie Johnson is no slouch. EVery corner will be burned a couple of times every season and I am fine with that. It can't look like Jason David out there thou.

TheOak 10-28-2013 08:39 AM

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Lewis brought that Steeler mentality to our defense, much like Harrolson brought some 49er to us...

jeanpierre 10-28-2013 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Rell&Gold (Post 541949)
Corey White should start over Greer

It's time for the transition...

dizzle88 10-28-2013 08:49 AM

Re: Is this what having a shutdown corner feels like?
 
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Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 542017)
Lewis brought that Steeler mentality to our defense, much like Harrolson brought some 49er to us...

Exactly what I was thinking when I saw Lewis play yesterday, Steelers secondary is known for very good man coverage and being an aggressive and solid tackler

Keenan definitely has those traits

rezburna 10-28-2013 09:10 AM

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Corey White should be starting over Greer. We should be starting to transition Greer off the team and into retirement.

ScottF 10-28-2013 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Crusader (Post 541975)
Stevie Johnson is no slouch. EVery corner will be burned a couple of times every season and I am fine with that. It can't look like Jason David out there thou.

There's getting burned, and then there is just flat out making an awful play.
This is the latter. Bad either way.

PS- didn't look like much of a hold either

UK_WhoDat 10-28-2013 05:17 PM

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I thought Keenan Lewis was stunning.

homerj07 10-28-2013 06:38 PM

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Did hate to see our guys trying to kill each other.

But Lewis has been a good pickup. I Joel that he & the whole D keep up the good work.

Rell&Gold 10-29-2013 03:12 AM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 542021)
It's time for the transition...

Yea he looks slow and always gets out manned for the ball, Corey has made some serious strides he's earned a #2 spot

FinSaint 10-29-2013 03:28 AM

Re: Is this what having a shutdown corner feels like?
 
Lewis has definitely been a great addition to the secondary, but I do agree that McKenzie was pretty impressive when he was at the top of his game.

Greer still has some great instincts on the field and he probably helps the younger guys along with their game, and I think he's been a lot better in coverage this year as opposed to last year, so the decline is negligible IMO.

SaintnDE 10-29-2013 05:52 AM

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I was kind of chuckling after that collision. Did anyone else see Vacarro kind of roll over when his head was between Lewis' legs and get a face full of crotch? His eye widend up and he roll back over quick!

LMAO for that Kenny!

WhoDatFan26 10-29-2013 09:19 PM

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I think we actually had two shutdown corners in 2009 Greer/Porter. But on this team Keenan is definitely the best Corner bar none. I like Jabari but he's definitely getting up in age. Maybe we should move him to Free Safety next season,and move Malcolm back to Corner.

Halo 10-29-2013 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by WhoDatFan26 (Post 542646)
I think we actually had two shutdown corners in 2009 Greer/Porter. But on this team Keenan is definitely the best Corner bar none. I like Jabari but he's definitely getting up in age. Maybe we should move him to Free Safety next season,and move Malcolm back to Corner.

Welcome WhoDatFan26!

|Mitch| 10-29-2013 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by WhoDatFan26 (Post 542646)
Maybe we should move him to Free Safety next season,and move Malcolm back to Corner.

Why do that when we have Corey White and Patrick Robinson ready to fight for that #2 spot next year?

Jenkins is a much better fit at FS then Greer would be...

jeanpierre 10-30-2013 06:12 AM

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Well, I do know that Corey White as a whole has played well, like many of the younger players (i.e. Vacarro) they've definitely had their share of mistakes, but they're also younger, faster, stronger and are making key plays to offset those mistakes rather than the slow, medicre death we were seeing with over-compensated veterans like Smith and Harper...

WhoDatFan26 10-30-2013 11:15 AM

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|Mitch| I'm not certain that Patrick Robinson is back on the team next season. With his cap number and the versatility of both K.Vaccarro and M. Jenkins, he may become a victim of numbers.

WhoDatFan26 10-30-2013 11:15 AM

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Thanks for the formal welcome Halo.

|Mitch| 10-30-2013 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by WhoDatFan26 (Post 542778)
|Mitch| I'm not certain that Patrick Robinson is back on the team next season. With his cap number and the versatility of both K.Vaccarro and M. Jenkins, he may become a victim of numbers.

Carr or Greer would be gone before Robinson. Remember Robinson was starting opposite Lewis before his injury...

K Major 10-30-2013 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 542781)
Carr or Greer would be gone before Robinson.

My guess would be Carr... he has looked lost and a step late at times when he gets in on 3rd and long situations.

saintsfan403 10-30-2013 12:56 PM

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His cap number? He's on a rookie contract, he hasn't done anything that would warrant a substantial salary and if next offseason is anything like last years, it's gonna be a buyers' market for free agent corners. He stays.

Rugby Saint II 10-31-2013 03:32 PM

Re: Is this what having a shutdown corner feels like?
 
I'm just not comfortable with P. Rob anywhere on the field. In my opinion he's a liability.........but then again Jenkins scared me until this year. He's really taken to Ryans scheme. So, maybe there is hope.

jeanpierre 11-01-2013 06:05 AM

Re: Is this what having a shutdown corner feels like?
 
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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 543113)
I'm just not comfortable with P. Rob anywhere on the field. In my opinion he's a liability.........but then again Jenkins scared me until this year. He's really taken to Ryans scheme. So, maybe there is hope.

Remember: Drew Brees quarterbacks coach at San Diego was Brian Schottenheimer; then he came to New Orleans...

We've really not had a decent, good defensive coordinator until now; and while he's not great, he's getting better and he's got a pulse on this YOUNG, FASTER defense...

hagan714 11-01-2013 06:30 AM

Re: Is this what having a shutdown corner feels like?
 
WhoDatFan26 welcome aboard

on the books thru 2015 - not going anywhere really quick
Greer
White
the swap is already in place.

thru 2014 - hmmmmmm
Robinson - he is young and has showed some upside the odds are he would be picked up if cut and we would be off the hook cap wise. heck the radars could claim him off waivers. but then there is depth issues to look at. Carr could re up m another aging vet ot the draft

FA this year Jenkins has to be resigned or a replacement needs to found. No i do not see an upgrade to Jenkins on the roster.

it will interesting to watch unfold

FinSaint 11-01-2013 05:19 PM

Re: Is this what having a shutdown corner feels like?
 
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Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 543253)
Carr could re up m another aging vet ot the draft

FA this year Jenkins has to be resigned or a replacement needs to found. No i do not see an upgrade to Jenkins on the roster.

it will interesting to watch unfold


Carr has looked lost for a fair share of his time on the field, and he looked absolutely terrible last season's preseason with the Vikes who ended up cutting him before the final 53. I just don't see him as anything more than a band-aid at the moment and Robinson, White and Sweeting should all be placed above him on the depth chart when healthy.

With regards to Jenkins and his future with the team - I honestly wouldn't be upset to see both Harper and Jenkins depart after this season both because of their (potential) cap numbers and what they actually bring on to the field. Jenkins has been a better fit to this defensive scheme than the last one, but the same could be said about practically every defensive player on the roster. Jenkins still makes blatant misreads pre-snap and has major problems with his tackling fundamentals. I'd rather see Vaccaro paired with either a FA or a rookie safety to form the starting pair, and have the likes of IA-Q and Bush serve as depth behind those guys.

skymike 11-01-2013 08:06 PM

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I dont have anything to add this outstanding conversation, but just to
+1 the whole thread.

It sure was exciting in the Dome sunday.


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