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TheOak 10-29-2013 05:16 AM

Trade Deadline Today
 
@4 PM today the deadline for trades comes up.


@4 PM today should also mark the start of a moratorium on Trade Mark Ingram threads for the rest of this season :)

dizzle88 10-29-2013 05:43 AM

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SP said in a interview with nola.com, the saints are not looking to trade anyone before the deadline

Obviously in sean payton speak that means jimmy graham is available for a 7th rounder lmao

dueceloose 10-29-2013 08:15 AM

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Today's the day that it ends! I'm sure Mark is happy

Euphoria 10-29-2013 08:25 AM

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Ingram won't be traded.

We won't get nearly what we want for him.

dueceloose 10-29-2013 08:29 AM

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I rather take what we can get over what we want.

TheOak 10-29-2013 08:29 AM

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This is how Ingram will work out if he played the next 1.5 seasons like he did the last 2.5 seasons.

He will become an unrestricted free agent in 2015 and either get picked up for league min or never to be heard from again.

There comes a time when you have to come to terms with the fact that wnat you want is not what someone will give and if you want anything you take what you can get.

Danno 10-29-2013 08:52 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 542388)
This is how Ingram will work out if he played the next 1.5 seasons like he did the last 2.5 seasons.

He will become an unrestricted free agent in 2015 and either get picked up for league min or never to be heard from again.

Or go to a team where he's a better fit and become a 1,000 yard back?

Budsdrinker 10-29-2013 08:57 AM

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Yeah we really ran the ball well Sunday without Ingram

Danno 10-29-2013 09:05 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Budsdrinker (Post 542398)
Yeah we really ran the ball well Sunday without Ingram

But our other RB's really look a lot better getting stuffed at the line than Ingram did.

TheOak 10-29-2013 09:06 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 542403)
But our other RB's really look a lot better getting stuffed at the line than Ingram did.


You seriously buy into that?

Danno 10-29-2013 09:10 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 542405)
You seriously buy into that?

Naw, they looked about the same to me.

What I am buying is that our O-line doesn't run block worth a crap. I'm buying that all day long, theres currently a 50% off sale behind the LOS.

Crusader 10-29-2013 09:11 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 542357)
@4 PM today should also mark the start of a moratorium on Trade Mark Ingram threads for the rest of this season :)

Nah, they just will be renamed to Cut Mark Ingram threads.

ScottF 10-29-2013 09:14 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 542396)
Or go to a team where he's a better fit and become a 1,000 yard back?

(cough, cough) Bush, Williams

Maybe MI can revive his career in South Florida

DISPLACEDFAN 10-29-2013 09:25 AM

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we make a trade or not doesn't matter but I feel we could use some more db's. we are a little thin back there because of injury not sure who's out there Possibly pillaging someone practice squad

TheOak 10-29-2013 09:36 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ScottF (Post 542411)
(cough, cough) Bush, Williams

Maybe MI can revive his career in South Florida

Bush preformed no better in Miami, he just played in more games because he wasn't injured.

Remember how Trent Richardson was going to do great things when Cleveland traded him? Still the same 3.2 YPC back. :bng:

ScottF 10-29-2013 10:16 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 542414)
Bush preformed no better in Miami, he just played in more games because he wasn't injured.

:bng:

and averaged almost a yard more per carry

saintfan 10-29-2013 11:10 AM

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The rumors are not true. I repeat NOT true.

Saintfan is not being traded.

SaintnDE 10-29-2013 11:27 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by saintfan (Post 542441)
The rumors are not true. I repeat NOT true.

Saintfan is not being traded.

what? i thought we were going to get a soda and a bag of chips!!!!

Beastmode 10-29-2013 11:33 AM

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Atlanta tossing any old broken fridges overboard yet? Worked for John Candy.

TheOak 10-29-2013 11:40 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ScottF (Post 542418)
and averaged almost a yard more per carry

Saints Ave 4.2
Dolphins Ave 4.6


Nope... Try 14 inches, 1.16 feet

ScottF 10-29-2013 12:09 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 542450)
Saints Ave 4.2
Dolphins Ave 4.6


Nope... Try 14 inches, 1.16 feet

We're getting that precise? Fine.
Saints 524 2092 = 4.0 ypc
Dolphins 443 2072 = 4.7 ypc


averages of averages are not averages

RockyMountainSaint 10-29-2013 12:30 PM

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Seahawks want to trade for Jared Allen | ProFootballTalk

ScottF 10-29-2013 12:34 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RockyMountainSaint (Post 542463)

don't know how anyone would have the cap space

Budsdrinker 10-29-2013 01:41 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ScottF (Post 542464)
don't know how anyone would have the cap space

Seahawks have the cap space and then some. You didn't see the graphic last night that they have 8 players which include Wilson, Browner and Sherman all signed at a combined value of under $6 million. They have the money but Vikings may want too much in return.

TheOak 10-29-2013 01:49 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ScottF (Post 542457)
We're getting that precise? Fine.
Saints 524 2092 = 4.0 ypc
Dolphins 443 2072 = 4.7 ypc


averages of averages are not averages

In certain circumstances averages of averages are a an average as long as the averages have equal weight.

In regards to precision, your still not there yet buddy, your 2092 is actually 2920 :) And "almost" isn't quantitative, so your reply about "almost a yard" isn't as accurate as averaging averages isn't it? Not quite 3/4 is not almost 1.

My reply was relatively as accurate as yours but you seems to have knotted your nickers over a player that's been gone for 2+ seasons.

ScottF 10-29-2013 01:51 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Budsdrinker (Post 542479)
Seahawks have the cap space and then some. You didn't see the graphic last night that they have 8 players which include Wilson, Browner and Sherman all signed at a combined value of under $6 million. They have the money but Vikings may want too much in return.

I heard a low third, which for Seattle would need to be a late 2nd and then maybe a late round switch

Nah,did not see the graphic. Too late for me :), and never thought it would be a game anyway...

TheOak 10-29-2013 01:53 PM

Trade Deadline Today
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Budsdrinker (Post 542479)
Seahawks have the cap space and then some. You didn't see the graphic last night that they have 8 players which include Wilson, Browner and Sherman all signed at a combined value of under $6 million. They have the money but Vikings may want too much in return.

No they don't.

Seahawks have 3.5M in space Jared Allen's cap hit is 17M...

I'm sure it would be prorated to 1/2 a season but that's still over twice Seattle's cap space.

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/minnesota...s/jared-allen/

|Mitch| 10-29-2013 01:54 PM

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NFLNetwork was talking about it, they were saying it wasn't financially possible

ScottF 10-29-2013 02:00 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 542482)
In certain circumstances averages of averages are a an average as long as the averages have equal weight.

In regards to precision, your still not there yet buddy, your 2092 is actually 2920 :) And "almost" isn't quantitative, so your reply about "almost a yard" isn't as accurate as averaging averages isn't it? Not quite 3/4 is not almost 1.

My reply was relatively as accurate as yours but you seems to have knotted your nickers over a player that's been gone for 2+ seasons.

no knotting here--
to recap, Danno commented that we have had backs go elsewhere and be more successful. Agreeing, I gave two prime examples
Your contention was: "Bush preformed no better in Miami, he just played in more games because he wasn't injured"
I would argue that .7 yards more per carry with an increased workload is performing better

TheOak 10-29-2013 02:05 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ScottF (Post 542488)
no knotting here--
to recap, Danno commented that we have had backs go elsewhere and be more successful. Agreeing, I gave two prime examples
Your contention was: "Bush preformed no better in Miami, he just played in more games because he wasn't injured"
I would argue that .7 yards more per carry with an increased workload is performing better

I would argue he actually had more yards per carry in NO, albeit between the hashes instead of the end-zones. :)

He also had his only full season in his career in Miami, also his only seasons over 11 games; so it seems it was a better move for his health also.

UK_WhoDat 10-29-2013 02:37 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Euphoria (Post 542384)
Ingram won't be traded.

We won't get nearly what we want for him.

Now we wait to find out if we will get (at long last) what we want FROM him

RaginCajun83 10-29-2013 02:44 PM

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This is the most worthless trade deadline in all of sports, no one that could make any impact will move teams today

RockyMountainSaint 10-29-2013 03:29 PM

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Seahawks want to trade for Jared Allen | ProFootballTalk

Halo 10-29-2013 03:33 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RockyMountainSaint (Post 542505)

That would suck. Seattle can bring some major pressure already. Add him to the mix and it could really sick!

lee909 10-29-2013 03:34 PM

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Glazer: Seahawks not pursuing Jared Allen

Posted by Mike Florio on October 29, 2013, 2:07 PM EDT
Glazer
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The man who first reported that Vikings defensive end Jared Allen could be traded now reports that the Seahawks are not in the hunt to trade for him.

Contrary to a report from Adam Schefter of ESPN, Jay Glazer of FOX Sports reports that, while two teams are indeed exploring the possibility of trading for Allen, the Seahawks are not in the mix — and they have not been talking to the Vikings.

It’s unclear at this point whether a deal will happen. Coincidentally (or not), the Vikings signed free-agent defensive end Justin Trattou on Tuesday. If Allen goes, Trattou would keep the head count of defensive ends at the same number.

Halo 10-29-2013 03:39 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lee909 (Post 542508)
Glazer: Seahawks not pursuing Jared Allen

Posted by Mike Florio on October 29, 2013, 2:07 PM EDT
Glazer
Getty Images
The man who first reported that Vikings defensive end Jared Allen could be traded now reports that the Seahawks are not in the hunt to trade for him.

Contrary to a report from Adam Schefter of ESPN, Jay Glazer of FOX Sports reports that, while two teams are indeed exploring the possibility of trading for Allen, the Seahawks are not in the mix — and they have not been talking to the Vikings.

It’s unclear at this point whether a deal will happen. Coincidentally (or not), the Vikings signed free-agent defensive end Justin Trattou on Tuesday. If Allen goes, Trattou would keep the head count of defensive ends at the same number.

To me it didn't really make sense. Seahawks have a loaded defensive line already. Why would they overload it if they seriously need some offensive line help? That was exposed last night.

TheOak 10-29-2013 03:44 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Halo (Post 542509)
To me it didn't really make sense. Seahawks have a loaded defensive line already. Why would they overload it if they seriously need some offensive line help? That was exposed last night.

I wouldn't put anything past Shaky Pete. :)

ScottF 10-29-2013 05:19 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RaginCajun83 (Post 542501)
This is the most worthless trade deadline in all of sports, no one that could make any impact will move teams today

Yeah, because pretty much nobody has the cap space... and if they did, we would all be wondering why the GMs didn't use the money earlier

Pro-rate and add a 1-2% at the break, or extend the deadline by a month so the new team only has to assume 33% of the incoming player's salary

QBREES9 10-29-2013 08:44 PM

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So no one made any trades.

homerj07 10-29-2013 09:35 PM

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No big trades.


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