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DISPLACEDFAN 11-03-2013 10:40 AM

Heaven help us Ingrams playing today
 
let us pray he has a new found outlook on what it takes to have positive effect in a football game

dizzle88 11-03-2013 10:45 AM

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Malcolm, marques, roman harper and khiry all inactive today

Step up rafael bush and vaccaro

Joker 11-03-2013 10:55 AM

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OMG, Ingram active with the better back inactive Robinson. When will the madness end, this guy sucks. Just by chance he has a breakout game it still won't make up for all of the bad games with a lack of effort.
Please send this guy packing, Pretty Please!!!

ScottF 11-03-2013 10:57 AM

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The NFL Inactives Report

normally we would have to be concerned about Colston, but Brees spreads it so much, I am sure the Off will be fine
Evans is active, and since we are not dressing Armstead, I guess he is ready.
and JV is playing- good to see

Beastmode 11-03-2013 11:03 AM

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I hope to see a lot of Ingram. That means the game got out of hand early and it's extended garbage time mode.

Srgt. Hulka 11-03-2013 11:08 AM

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Maybe he'll "Bring the Wood"!

DISPLACEDFAN 11-03-2013 11:14 AM

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Well he's not a box of chocolate's. We know what we know what we are going to get about 2.8 yrds per carry

SaintsBro 11-03-2013 11:26 AM

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Well "active" is not the same thing as "playing."

We'll have to see whether he is a significant part of Payton's game plan or not. I tend to think he won't be.

Joker 11-03-2013 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Srgt. Hulka (Post 543658)
Maybe he'll "Bring the Wood"!

You mean the lead that's in his A$$, this guys a plug no matter if he brings it today or not. Really won't make up for the first round we gave for him and all the games he didn't do sh!t.

spkb25 11-03-2013 11:39 AM

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Maybe he was really injured and the time off has him ready to get after it. If not, I am not so sure he'll be here much longer. 2nd half of the season determines his fate, IMHO

Crusader 11-03-2013 11:46 AM

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Well lets hope he can get it done today.

Barry from MS 11-03-2013 11:57 AM

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O-line won't run block very well against the Jets' Front 7. They simply stop the run. Ingram goes for 1.6 per carry with a fumble.

We win, but it will be a close and frustrating game.

saintfan 11-03-2013 02:13 PM

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He's the only one who looks worth a crap

Danno 11-03-2013 07:02 PM

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Obviously Ingram cost us the game today. :rolleyes:

westbankdaze 11-03-2013 07:17 PM

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Ingram played today?



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Halo 11-03-2013 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by westbankdaze (Post 544240)
Ingram played today?

Well since we refuse to even try to run the ball, it's impossible to tell.

Danno 11-03-2013 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by westbankdaze (Post 544240)
Ingram played today?



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Yes, he was our most effective runner today with 4.8 YPC. But he wasn't called on much, but neither were any of our other RBs.

DISPLACEDFAN 11-03-2013 07:24 PM

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one run of 9 yrds woo hoo but the other runs typical Ingram

WhoDat!656 11-03-2013 07:24 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DISPLACEDFAN (Post 543659)
Well he's not a box of chocolate's. We know what we know what we are going to get about 2.8 yrds per carry

Obviously Payton forgot about that stat!

Danno 11-03-2013 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by DISPLACEDFAN (Post 544244)
one run of 9 yrds woo hoo but the other runs typical Ingram

Looked no different than the rest of our RB's. PT was 6 for 24 with a 9 yard long, woo-hoo!!!

Oh that's right, we only bash Ingram around here.

DISPLACEDFAN 11-03-2013 07:32 PM

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and Thomas's pass catching abilty to ingrams non-exsitance one and thomas still had 4 yrds per carry

Cruize 11-03-2013 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by DISPLACEDFAN (Post 544254)
and Thomas's pass catching abilty to ingrams non-exsitance one and thomas still had 4 yrds per carry

Ingram can catch the ball. Brees NEVER even looks his way. Another way to make the Saints offense MORE predictable.

DISPLACEDFAN 11-03-2013 07:35 PM

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ok I'm done. Been here done this
Danno loves Ingram. While I Absolutely hate him. Just fact of the matter

Danno 11-03-2013 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by DISPLACEDFAN (Post 544254)
and Thomas's pass catching abilty to ingrams non-exsitance one and thomas still had 4 yrds per carry

Yeah, and whats your point? Obviously you aren't paying attention to the rest of our run game because it hasn't been very good either. But keep on bashing one player if it makes you feel good. Its called picking a scapegoat and piling on.

DISPLACEDFAN 11-03-2013 07:40 PM

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just pointing out you'll defend Ingram till death no matter what
and i'll hate him till i see a productive game from him
just sayin we have had this discussion before

I compare the Ingram pick To the Jonathon Sullivan pick

Danno 11-03-2013 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by DISPLACEDFAN (Post 544257)
ok I'm done. Been here done this
Danno loves Ingram. While I Absolutely hate him. Just fact of the matter

I don't love Ingram, I just refuse to hate on a player when the entire group isn't performing well so far.

I've watched enough football to know none of our RB's are running the ball particularly well and our O-line has struggled in that aspect of the game, regardless of who carries it.

If you can't see that then that explains why you're focusing your hate toward Ingram.

DISPLACEDFAN 11-03-2013 07:43 PM

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don't get me wrong though i don't put anything about this lose on him at all today

Danno 11-03-2013 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by DISPLACEDFAN (Post 544268)
don't get me wrong though i don't put anything about this lose on him at all today

Well that's pretty obvious.

AlaskaSaints 11-03-2013 07:48 PM

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Ingram is on my Fantasy team... right next to Scott Shanle.

Alaska

DISPLACEDFAN 11-03-2013 07:49 PM

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I made this thread when I heard he was active at 12:30.
when we are as pass happy of a team as we are it almost impossible to have a quality running game from a rb

K Major 11-03-2013 08:00 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Cruize (Post 544255)
Ingram can catch the ball. Brees NEVER even looks his way. Another way to make the Saints offense MORE predictable.

Cruize, I was thinking the same thing. From my view point, I thought the lack of using Ingram more often in the short to intermediate passing attack was another missed opportunity to successfully move the ball down the field.

jeanpierre 11-04-2013 11:40 AM

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Damn Ingram cost us the game too...

TheOak 11-04-2013 12:07 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Cruize (Post 544255)
Ingram can catch the ball. Brees NEVER even looks his way. Another way to make the Saints offense MORE predictable.

Ingmrams Comp%

2013 0
2012 60% 4.4 Yards/Rec
2011 84.6% 4.2 Yards/Rec

His Yards/Rec are dismal.. Those are decent numbers on the ground.

2013 - PTs ave 7.4, Jed Collins 4.9 YPC, Sproles 9.9

Ivory was 7.5 YPC

Cruize 11-04-2013 01:17 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 544616)
Ingmrams Comp%

2013 0
2012 60% 4.4 Yards/Rec
2011 84.6% 4.2 Yards/Rec

His Yards/Rec are dismal.. Those are decent numbers on the ground.

2013 - PTs ave 7.4, Jed Collins 4.9 YPC, Sproles 9.9

Ivory was 7.5 YPC

The overall point is to be less predictable. I saw Ingram WIDE open many times last year for that 4+ yard play, which I'll take every time, and instead Brees forced the ball downfield. Sometimes resulting in an interception. Take what the defense gives you. Dumping the ball off creates more openings down the field later. Running the ball more makes the offense less predictable. Defenses can't just pin their ears back and attack like the Jets did yesterday. Make the lineman and linebackers play the run and make tackles. Grubbs was a big reason the Ravens Ray Rice was so successful. Evans is a beast. Strief is a mauler. Let them wear the defense down instead of asking them to standup, backup, and dance 40+ times a game.

TheOak 11-04-2013 01:35 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Cruize (Post 544644)
The overall point is to be less predictable. I saw Ingram WIDE open many times last year for that 4+ yard play, which I'll take every time, and instead Brees forced the ball downfield. Sometimes resulting in an interception. Take what the defense gives you. Dumping the ball off creates more openings down the field later. Running the ball more makes the offense less predictable. Defenses can't just pin their ears back and attack like the Jets did yesterday. Make the lineman and linebackers play the run and make tackles. Grubbs was a big reason the Ravens Ray Rice was so successful. Evans is a beast. Strief is a mauler. Let them wear the defense down instead of asking them to standup, backup, and dance 40+ times a game.

Evans, Strieff, Grubs, DLP, Brown... Have you watched these guys this year? Did you see the reverse in the final minutes of the game against the Jets? Josh Hill ran his first reverse, you cant get any less predictable than that. He was crushed by Quintin Couples 8 yards in the back field. He ran right through the area of Strief, Evans and DLP.

DLP is actually the worst on our line, between the penalties and missed assignments, he is wreaking havoc on out offense.

At the end of the day what do you think the reason Drew throws where he throws is? There has to be one.

W. Kovacs 11-04-2013 10:01 PM

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Watching this GB/Chicago game. Could you imagine if Ingram ran like Eddie Lacy? Jeez, we'd be unstoppable.

exile 11-04-2013 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by W. Kovacs (Post 544832)
Watching this GB/Chicago game. Could you imagine if Ingram ran like Eddie Lacy? Jeez, we'd be unstoppable.

Could you imagine if the Saints OLine could open holes like the Packers OLine?

W. Kovacs 11-04-2013 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by exile (Post 544834)
Could you imagine if the Saints OLine could open holes like the Packers OLine?

This is true, but Lacy is running over men like they're little kids. He runs north - south, lowers his shoulder, delivers hits, and keeps his legs churning until the whistle blows.

Budsdrinker 11-05-2013 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by W. Kovacs (Post 544835)
This is true, but Lacy is running over men like they're little kids. He runs north - south, lowers his shoulder, delivers hits, and keeps his legs churning until the whistle blows.

Lacy is a much bigger back also

Choupique 11-07-2013 09:47 AM

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some of you are disloyal, whiner spoiled yuppie brats... not FANS.

move to Atlanta. we don't need your lack of spinal fortitude in the gene pool.

you'll fit right in with those losers, however.


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