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Poor Run Defense Partially Due to Scheme

this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by exile They played well enough to win the game especially since turnovers forced them into bad positions. I saw two or three runs by Ivory/Powell that even Halo could have run through and gained 10 yards. Overall ...

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Old 11-04-2013, 09:16 AM   #11
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Re: Poor Run Defense Partially Due to Scheme

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They played well enough to win the game especially since turnovers forced them into bad positions. I saw two or three runs by Ivory/Powell that even Halo could have run through and gained 10 yards.

Overall I thought the Jets had a great gameplan and got the ball out of Geno's hands quickly. Especially those WR screens that seemed to keep working. That seemed to open up the run lanes.
I thought it was odd that only 3 of Gino's passes traveled across the LOS.

We played right into the Jets hands. Unforced turnovers, dumb penalties and missed assignments.
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Old 11-04-2013, 10:03 AM   #12
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Re: Poor Run Defense Partially Due to Scheme

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Defense has allowed its share of running this year. I felt adjustments were made in the second half that eventually shut the Jets down.
9 in the box and dare the rookie to beat you passing is not really earth shaking at all. Geno did enough to hurt us and having third stringers out there did not.

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I totally agree with you GeauxNOGeaux. I also think it was a monumental task cleaning up this defense from last year, and that overall I really could not ask for more, pourous run defense included.
monumental ????? i still have not reach that point. all we are playing is Greg Williams defense again. attack. the only difference i am seeing is Williams demanded more discipline in lane assignments from the front 7

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What's most disappointing is the defense handing the ball back to the offense and the offensive mistakes and miscues are mind boggling. I don't want to go off topic too much, but I agree that the defense appears to be the more serviceable and adjustable squad on the team as opposed to the offense which needs its collective heads examined.
the blue print is out on us both defensively and offensively now comes the real coaching challenge. NE did it to us and bills tried the same thing and now the jets laid it out perfectly. the cats is out of the bag and the rest of the nfl knows it.

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Old 11-04-2013, 11:10 AM   #13
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Re: Poor Run Defense Partially Due to Scheme

I agree that run defense has a long way to go but I think some of that comes with time. The front seven need to be more disciplined in their gap coverages.

That being said, they're not giving up the big play nearly as often as they did last year. A definite improvement.
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Old 11-04-2013, 11:28 AM   #14
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Re: Poor Run Defense Partially Due to Scheme

Scheme? Respectfully disagree...

Missed Tackles and Getting Beat One on One were the problems yesterday...

Geaux back to the Ivory run from the Jets 1-2 yard line - Saints defender bounced off of him and he gashed us down the sideline; that was a missed tackle and they are professional football players miss tackling - no excuse for player nor positional coach...
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Old 11-04-2013, 11:34 AM   #15
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Re: Poor Run Defense Partially Due to Scheme

According to that 4 letter sports station, Ivory had 107 yards before contact. That tells me there was an awful lot of over pursuing and not maintaining your gaps. Perfect example would be the god awful end around.
Jets DE was just sitting back in his position, he didn't crash the los and lose containment.
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Re: Poor Run Defense Partially Due to Scheme

Just run dammit!
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Re: Poor Run Defense Partially Due to Scheme

Says it all.

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Says it all.

Wow, I haven't seen a gaping hole that size by the Saints O-line in years.

That is amazing. Where's the SLB? Did we just get burned on a SLB/SILB blitz?

Pretty significant hold on Hicks (or Jenkins?) however.
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'Curtis Lofton said this today: "There wasnít anything in his (Ivory's) way most of the time he ran. Thatís more so (our fault)." So the team is thinking more about not having players in the right spots rather than being bruised by the offensive line or Ivory.'

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Re: Poor Run Defense Partially Due to Scheme

Our D is designed based part upon that our O will be running up the score. All we have to do then is stop them from passing on us.

Our O hasn't done its part.
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