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Poor Run Defense Partially Due to Scheme

this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by Danno Cant tell if thats Hicks or Jenkins, but either way its not good. Pretty sure that it's seahorse. And pretty sure the refs looked away....

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Old 11-04-2013, 06:41 PM   #31
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Re: Poor Run Defense Partially Due to Scheme

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Cant tell if thats Hicks or Jenkins, but either way its not good.
Pretty sure that it's seahorse. And pretty sure the refs looked away.
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Re: Poor Run Defense Partially Due to Scheme

Originally Posted by Danno View Post
Cant tell if thats Hicks or Jenkins, but either way its not good.

I'm no expert but I'm guessing a 9 foot wide hole is a pretty good indicator that the RB will gain decent yardage.

I'd love to see the all-22 to see what the heck happened on that play.
What formation were we in?
Why isn't a LB in that hole?
Were we blitzing?
Was it a breakdown?
Was that photoshopped?
Why wasn't a hold called?
What could our RB's do with a 9 foot wide hole?
And I thought I ask alot of questions!! All valid though.
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Old 11-04-2013, 07:00 PM   #33
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Re: Poor Run Defense Partially Due to Scheme

Originally Posted by blackangold View Post
...I still don't get why Payton got away from the run so early. Our running game hasn't been effective all year but we stuck with it and made the D play the run; against the Jets we didn't even try to keep them honest.
15 rushing yards in the 1st half. I reckon he was salivating over the Bengals putting up 49 the week before on that secondary, and that we'd beat that secondary deep early and often. Oh well...onward and upwards.
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Old 11-04-2013, 08:14 PM   #34
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Re: Poor Run Defense Partially Due to Scheme

Saints only managed 6 pts in the 2nd half, that is one problem.

As for the run defense, I hope this is wasnt exposing anything troubling, the 49ers are a team that does what the Jets do.
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Re: Poor Run Defense Partially Due to Scheme

Originally Posted by Danno View Post
Cant tell if thats Hicks or Jenkins, but either way its not good.

I'm no expert but I'm guessing a 9 foot wide hole is a pretty good indicator that the RB will gain decent yardage.

I'd love to see the all-22 to see what the heck happened on that play.
What formation were we in?
Why isn't a LB in that hole?
Were we blitzing?
Was it a breakdown?
Was that photoshopped?
Why wasn't a hold called?
What could our RB's do with a 9 foot wide hole?
Just watched it and Hawthorne ran into the back of Hicks I believe and fell down. Clearly his fault not being in the hole.
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Old 11-05-2013, 09:50 AM   #36
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Re: Poor Run Defense Partially Due to Scheme

Originally Posted by Danno View Post
Wow, I haven't seen a gaping hole that size by the Saints O-line in years.

That is amazing. Where's the SLB? Did we just get burned on a SLB/SILB blitz?

Pretty significant hold on Hicks (or Jenkins?) however.
Jordan and Hicks are both being held. Refs dont call holding until the hands make their way to the outside of the pads.
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Old 11-05-2013, 10:10 AM   #37
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Jordan and Hicks are both being held. Refs dont call holding until the hands make their way to the outside of the pads.
Unless your name is de la Puente and its the Saints final victory drive.
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