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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Because if this happens packers will end up the last wild card, and assuming we at least go 11-5(we should win one of our next home games and Atl, then StL, one of the Car games and if nothing crazy ...

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Old 11-04-2013, 07:13 PM   #1
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We need lions or 49ers to win their divisions

Because if this happens packers will end up the last wild card, and assuming we at least go 11-5(we should win one of our next home games and Atl, then StL, one of the Car games and if nothing crazy TB) we can still have the second bye. GB is going to win in Detroit if they face in the playoffs. Then GB gets to go to Seattle, and with all the tensions about that last game the packers can knock the seahawks off. That gives us hfa.

Rodgers will have Cobb back by then, Seattle will have one corner on Nelson(who will draw Sherman thanks to Cobb's injury) and Browner(who hasnt been as good) on Jones. That opens up the slot and they have the running game to worry about. But GB is going to rattle Seattle some on defense, Lynch could be all they have. In cold weather and a better QB in a balanced offense, GB could prove to be the intimidating cold weather solution to that place.

By losing to the 49ers, we give SF the division(packers>vikings, redskins>giants) if they beat Seattle week 14. That means we would not have to go to Seattle in playoffs, but Candelstick and that place isnt Qwest by a mile. A rematch is good for us. But in this situation we still will need lions to win division. Or we will not get the bye and would face lions in wild card round, which we should pull out before going to GB. Can we beat them in cold weather with no knowledge prior?
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Old 11-04-2013, 07:18 PM   #2
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Re: We need lions or 49ers to win their divisions

This is some of the weirdest logic for winning and losing games I have ever seen

I would agree that going to Seattle is worst. Closely followed by Green Bay in honesty. But to see a whole host of games move around in and out of our favour is 'fun' but not realistic.

I have a much easier concept. Let's win out. As things stand that would guarantee us the #1 seed!
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Old 11-04-2013, 07:46 PM   #3
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This is some of the weirdest logic for winning and losing games I have ever seen

I have a much easier concept. Let's win out. As things stand that would guarantee us the #1 seed!
Exactly...
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Old 11-05-2013, 02:08 AM   #4
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I don't think I want us to win out. Its too early to do that and then have to play three more games. I'd worried about us being tired and taking the regular season too seriously like Denver and NE do. Whether y'all want to believe this or not, the seahawks and 49ers hurt their selves by racing each other for top seed. Their players will be worn out. You can't expect a less worn Harvin or Crabtree to take the place at the same level as Sherman, Lynch, Willis, Gore. It doesnt work that way.

With the way its being set up, we are looking at being the underdog with the most experience. Everyone will be touting NE/Den vs.Sea/SF, and Indy, Cinci, or KC just are not seasoned enough to upset the AFC two, while we will be the one who has a rematch against the team or teams that will be touted as the favorites.
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Re: We need lions or 49ers to win their divisions

We've had 13 and 11 game win streaks in the past. I do believe an 11 game win streak would do it.
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Re: We need lions or 49ers to win their divisions

1. Rogers will have no one with a fractured collar bone. When Crabtree comes back he will have Seneca Wallace.
2. There is no such thing as wearing players out trying to win in the regular season. if you don't win in regular season there is no post season.

*"dont want us to win out".. What the heck?


I know you didnt know about #1 when you posted... And that is my point. Too much football left to be played to invest so much energy in scenarios that become moot on 1 play in week 9.
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Green Bay is done if Rogers is out for any length of time. It's going to be Chicago or Detroit who wins division.
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1. Rogers will have no one with a fractured collar bone. When Crabtree comes back he will have Seneca Wallace.
2. There is no such thing as wearing players out trying to win in the regular season. if you don't win in regular season there is no post season.

*"dont want us to win out".. What the heck?


I know you didnt know about #1 when you posted... And that is my point. Too much football left to be played to invest so much energy in scenarios that become moot on 1 play in week 9.

I was talking about Michael Crabtree from the 49ers
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Old 11-06-2013, 03:33 AM   #9
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1. Rogers will have no one with a fractured collar bone. When Crabtree comes back he will have Seneca Wallace.
2. There is no such thing as wearing players out trying to win in the regular season. if you don't win in regular season there is no post season.

*"dont want us to win out".. What the heck?


I know you didnt know about #1 when you posted... And that is my point. Too much football left to be played to invest so much energy in scenarios that become moot on 1 play in week 9.

Actually there is. Maybe its not the case with us but Manning and Brady's post season failures can be attributed to their team's careless wins over teams they would play again in playoffs. Taking a few wins over from 14-2 is still playoffs and still good enough for them to have won their divisions. No good deed goes unpunished. This is a payback league. Teams use HFA as a crutch.
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Old 11-06-2013, 08:21 AM   #10
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Re: We need lions or 49ers to win their divisions

At the end of the day, to control our destiny, we have to win all our games...

If we want to be the best, we have to best them all...

But playing Seattle twice in Seattle in a season will be very tough, then have to fly back to New York and win the tournament against the AFC champion - that would be a truly daunting feat...
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