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Alright guys hear me out. Just to clarify i'm not saying we should trade Brees. What i'm saying is if it happened I do not believe we would take much of a hit. I haven't really been happy with the saints since the loss on Sunday so I've just been thinking. If we drafted a QB in the first round and kind of had Drew take him under his wing for two years to teach him the ways of a NFL QB. I think the Saints style of play does not need an Elite QB but rather a "Game manager." It would certainly help our cap issues and I'm sure we could at least get 2 first round picks. This would give us the opportunity to draft players to replace people like Colston, Harper, Vilma, and Smith. Not even to mention build a halfway decent O-line. I know i'll receive hate but it's just an idea, I love Brees with all my heart and I was a fan when we picked him up in free agency but it doesn't seem like he is putting in the work like making Nick Toon better and rather making Wrangler commercials to build up his already monstrous wealth. He was so arrogant when it came to his contract, we asked him to take the Tom Brady way, but instead he held out and took the selfish way out and now he is paying for it and taking sacks at an alarming rate because we have no money to pay for better lineman. What do you guys think?

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I think we would be 2-6 now without Brees. Enough said.

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Welcome aboard, dude! Pretty ballsy for your 1st post to be about trading Drew, but I'll bite. I'm open to ideas. You're thinking Manning-to-Luck or Favre-to-Rodgers, and I completely see that side of it. I'd like to draft a highly talented QB in the 1st round and have him mentored by Brees (hell, who wouldn't?). Have that talented QB marinate for a year or so with Brees, then trade Drew for a 1st and 2nd rounder. I doubt any team would give up 2 1st rounders for a mid-30's QB even if it is a Future HoF'er QB unless we're talking Oakland, Cleveland, or Minnesota.

I obviously don't know Drew Brees personally, but I've got the feeling that after the beating he's taking and will be taking this year plus if we miss going deep in the playoffs that he will give back to the organization to sign some help on that O-line and defensive side of the ball. If we don't draft a center in the 1st or 2nd rounds in 2014 I may not survive as the thought of seeing DLP play center again next year on this team could possibly kill me.

If Brees does NOT give back ala Peyton Manning and Brady, I'll be shocked and certainly disappointed. But I can't hate too much; dude was a Super Bowl MVP...in a Saints uniform. That's gotta count for something.

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1. If you trade Brees how can he take him under his wing

2. Why would you want a manager when you have a winner

3. Out of decades of the saints history without a Elite Qb, why would you go
backwards

4. Why not draft or trade for better OL instead of look for a game manger qb

5. All of those years fans was complaining that saints was not spending
enough to be real contenders, why would you want to go back to those
dramatic days

6. So you're saying you would paid to keep Carl Nicks and traded for a game
managing qb

7. Do you think Matt Ryan, Tony Romo & Joe Flaco deserve a better contract than Drew

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Hmmmm interesting post, i do believe some brees or payton bad talk is taboo on here if some think your going too far but both are human and neither are perfect all the time. That being said they should draft a future qb prospect that will fit the system. As much as i hate to say it but brees won't play forever and yes his contract is killing us to a certain extent just like flacco, ryan, and others big overpriced qb contracts are but to me you get rid of the players like harper, vilma, smith to name a few that aren't producing cause of injuries or lack of production/past their prime. Cutting some high salary players like them would free up money to sign better younger players but keeping the ones worth it.

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Yes, I'm certainly glad we didn't spend the 20 M on Ryan or Flacco, that's for sure

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I second this!

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I don't have my finger on the exact quote handy, but Sean Payton has already said that he intends to someday leave the Saints, but he wants to leave the team in a position to win -- the implication between the lines being that at the very minimum, he will set us up with a QB after Brees, before Payton retires or leaves at the end of his contract. When he talks about long term plans for the team, he talks about "the window." When he does that, he is talking about Brees and him, as a pair, and the "window" he refers to is basically, a code word for him and Brees.

Payton has definitely said that he feels it's important to him, for a head coach to leave a team in a position to be able to continue winning -- basically to leave the place better for the next guy, than it was when you found it. That's part of his philosophy, it's very important to him as a coach and a person. He is not the kind of coach who would leave a team in disarray, where it takes years and years to fix the mess.

I don't see how trading Brees possibly fits into that scheme of things.

As for your issue with the Wrangler commercials, you are seeing them now, but they were shot months ago, in the off season. You can tell by the foliage on the trees, in the background, that it is not fall (it actually looks to me like City Park, but I'm not sure).

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... and this is a good example of why we have random drug testing.

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I'd be OK with trading Brees, if I can get Andrew Luck in return.

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This should have already been posted!

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Can't we invoke the blasphemy clause and just delete this thread?

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This should have already been posted!

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This thread may not be getting its due attention, I'll move it to Saints area :)

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You always enjoyed a good lynching...

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Quite the contrary, this was not posted in the Saints area and that is where it should be.

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It really bother me when people make comments about the following...
1. Drew's replacement...
2. Drew's arm strenght...
3. Trading Drew...
4. Drew's age...

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I think i know why the first part of OP's name is "Schmo"

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If we were to trade Drew I would expect no less than 5 first round picks in return. I have faith that Payton will turn Griffin into a good QB. I think we'd be OK....eventually.

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You are pulling a Dude right? Must be kidding right? witH the exception of last night and the Cards we are lucky we have the record we do now. W/o Brees we dont win a game

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Luck and 2 rds 1's in return!

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That's generous - who would be the two?

The Bucs were not the Sucs when we played them - they still had some fight. Same goes for the Clowns.


No, without Brees and with anyone else we currently have as QB we are in the Bucs/Jags situation - probably 1-8 with a squeaker over the Bills - MAYBE

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Dolphins and Bills. I making the assumption that McCown could keep us in the cellar but not with a top draft pick.

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I dont buy into the whole "under the wing" cr4p science.

Starting QBs are game planning, no time for a lot of tutelage. Watching an elite QB play gives nothing to a rookie. How many non NFL QBs have watched hours and hours of Brees, Manning, Brady play and stink it up every Sunday?

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Trade Drew Brees? Yikes!

As far as Payton leaving someday...it is ironic that the Saints just put a big ol' nail in Garrett's coffin.

It is my opinion that we all better hope that the Boys do a lot better from here on out.

Off track, but I gotta know. Danno...you still think Morstead wasn't worth that or those picks we gave up. Just curious.

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Elite QB's are rare and difficult to find. Too many teams have struggled for years b/c they don't have a very good QB much less an Elite one. We have an Elite QB and he is one of the hardest working players in the NFL, spending countless hours with receivers after practice to work on routes and timing etc. Its not Drew's fault that Nick Toon can't catch a cold.

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I've said it a million times. NO PUNTER is worth two draft picks in a 4-pick draft with needs all throughout the team on both sides of the ball, especially with the success we've had with late round picks.

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Don't we already have a QB we're sitting to mentor under Brees, that was acquired this very year? We even cut a player to prevent him from getting poached, why would we now go for a first round player?

Watching from the sidelines during a game isn't "under the wing". The benefit is having the QB with you on the training field talking to you about the game. These non NFL QBs aren't talking to Brees, Manning, or Brady every day.

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You have a BU QB so you have a back up if Drew is hurt, you have more than one so that you have depth.

This year is way too early to say we have Drew's replacement. IF he is worth his salt he will be gone before Drew retires due to his contract length.

Back Up QBs are not training with Drew, Brady or Payton... They are running opposing offenses against our defense so that our Defense has something to practice against weekly. They are on the side lines throwing to non-starting receivers while Drew works with the starters...

If your theory is correct then you need to state examples. Rodgers looks nothing like Favre, Brady does not resemble Drew Bledsoe.

Who is Jim Sorgi? Yep.. You don't know either. He was BU QB behind Payton Manning for 4-5 years, and in 2010 he was only good enough to make the Giants practice squad. Where is Curtis Painter after sitting under Payton Manning? How many good NFL QBs can you list that have sat under Tom Brady?

Sorry brother, it sounds good in theory but it just doesn't work out that way. Your great QBs come into the league ready to play, they usually beat out the starter to take the job or jump right into the fire.

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I do think we go after a legit starting QB in this years draft. I dont know if Tulane boy is really the answer. He may be a good backup, but thats about it. One thing is for sure, whoever we get will have some mighty big shoes to fill. We wont be over losing Brees for years.

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One day soon the inevitable end of the Payton Brees era will come.
But for now run the ship while we still have a working engine and a Captain.

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Yeah, ask the oilers how trading Gretzky went. This is so silly. Spoiled we are. No clue what we have at that position. I'll remind those with short memories, this was the man that completed more than 70% of his passes in a season. Who the other night against Dallas completed 19 passes in a row. Go around the NFL and go watch some other QB's. Then come back and watch drew, yeah it is the system, not Drew. Utter BS and absurd. Good lord the fans who do not recognize we have a hall of famer playing that position. One of the best ever!

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No way, no how. Drew is still performing at the highest level with great vision, arm strength, and accuracy. Replacing Drew (although several years away, barring catastophe) will be almost impossible.
I vote for keep him until he is ready to retire and then make him offensive coordinator.

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"Never stay in for the last penny"

John D. Rockefeller

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Or the Bills or Bears games...

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Love the Gretzky reference.

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"GAME MANAGER" - YOU ARE OUT OF YOUR MIND!

Those type QB's are for teams who has no one better is all. WE need a highly proficient passing QB. I am all for trading him don't get me wrong but I have to have at least 2 first round picks and a 2 and 3.

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or Babe Ruth
or Dr. J
or Brett Favre (I'll take any chance to bash Atl)
or Wilt Chamberlain

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What a terrible idea! And how did this thread get 5 stars.

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yee haw back to top 5 draft picks year in and year out.