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Old 11-05-2013, 06:42 PM   #41
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I don't care how good he is I don't want a guy like this.
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Old 11-05-2013, 06:44 PM   #42
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This guy should be permanently banned from the league.
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I'd like to understand exactly what he said, and what context.
if its just because he said the forbidden word, that forbidden word pops up
in every other rap song, so i dont give a sh**. I wouldnt excommunicate every player who used the word cracker, and i'm sure its been done.

If he was seriously threatening guys (for whatever reason) and meant them harm, then yeah, we dont want no psycho's. And honestly, no, I wouldnt want someone who hates someone just because of their skin. I dont hate anyone like that, regardless what you're going to say. But I'm not going to
recognize anyone's special set of rights. Everyone is equal in my book.

But if he was just a big sh** talker, even if he was conrad dobler on the field, I would use his play as the determiner.

This is the first time I've ever heard the term "bullying" used in a football story,
and to be honest, the whole "bullying" thing is suspicious to me.

talk is talk. Whats his history?
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Old 11-05-2013, 06:53 PM   #44
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He is not going to play anywhere for a while.
I bet Jerry Jones would love to have him.
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Old 11-05-2013, 07:07 PM   #45
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talk is talk. Whats his history?
history is that he was on several teams' do not draft list
he was flat out cut by a below average team (St. L)
he has more personal fouls in last 5 years than anyone not named Suh
has had 5 games with 2 PF's
had college ejections and suspensions, including spitting on a player from ASU
alienated the guy who plays NEXT to him on the line

Cancer. Pass.
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Old 11-05-2013, 07:49 PM   #46
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Freaking Racist Bully ! A good fit for Atlanta, ya know strike that don't even want to see him in the league.
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I'd like to understand exactly what he said, and what context.
if its just because he said the forbidden word, that forbidden word pops up
in every other rap song, so i dont give a sh**. I wouldnt excommunicate every player who used the word cracker, and i'm sure its been done.

If he was seriously threatening guys (for whatever reason) and meant them harm, then yeah, we dont want no psycho's. And honestly, no, I wouldnt want someone who hates someone just because of their skin. I dont hate anyone like that, regardless what you're going to say. But I'm not going to
recognize anyone's special set of rights. Everyone is equal in my book.

But if he was just a big sh** talker, even if he was conrad dobler on the field, I would use his play as the determiner.

This is the first time I've ever heard the term "bullying" used in a football story,
and to be honest, the whole "bullying" thing is suspicious to me.

talk is talk. Whats his history?
Substitute the word bullying with harassment.
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Old 11-05-2013, 08:58 PM   #48
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Re: Incognito - Would you want him??

Do we even have salary cap room?!?

Assume he'd replace Grubbs (who's proving to be a disappointing signing for the price) but to what improvement, ends?!?

How does he react to Brees-led pressure drive to win a big game, remembering he's played for Rams and Dolphins, not winners?!?

Can he be TRUSTED with the Shield, Fleur-de-lis?!?

What is the scope of his leaked medically-managed mental health issues?!?

Our society has got to come to grips with the words like n****, redskin, and the like...

And the solution is not to get a big eraser out and try to remove history, you learn from it and teach younger generations the same...

And it can't be tolerated for some of society to use a word and not others - that's horse$#hit...

Problem with hazing is that now there is little to nil personal judgement and restraint...

Hazing stunts have now entered a zone of "how do we out-do last year's stunts?" and that leads to a critical mass scenario resulting in long-term effect from abuse and even, death...

Team chemistry is important and a little nasty, toughness is so needed on the offensive line - but do you put a possible powder-keg mad man in the portcullis that protects your 20 million dollar investment at quarterback?!?
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Old 11-05-2013, 09:05 PM   #49
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Ummmmmm, now if he were a tackle AND a guard AND paid us to play?


No.
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NO !
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