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Incognito or Martin - Would you want them??

this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by hagan714 see i have been reading these and following the case a bit. your guilty after the facts are heard. all the facts. we are no were near that point. till then i will not pass judgement ...

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Old 11-07-2013, 06:52 AM   #81
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see i have been reading these and following the case a bit. your guilty after the facts are heard. all the facts. we are no were near that point. till then i will not pass judgement and would not be upset if the saints were talking to him just encase all of this is not as bad as it is made out in the media from day one. even the media is back tracking now. so let this play out then if guilty hang the guy. copy and paste
The message martin received is all I need to know. There is absolutely zero plausible reason for it. We are not a court of law, he is guilty of that message. Found guilty in a court of law is also no litmus test of whether someone did something or not.

Talking to him about what? He hasn't been released, the trade deadline has passed, and we do not have the cap space.
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Old 11-07-2013, 09:07 AM   #82
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see i have been reading these and following the case a bit. your guilty after the facts are heard. all the facts. we are no were near that point. till then i will not pass judgement and would not be upset if the saints were talking to him just encase all of this is not as bad as it is made out in the media from day one. even the media is back tracking now. so let this play out then if guilty hang the guy. copy and paste
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our coaching staff likely had the same opportunity to sign incognito as any NFL team...

they didn't.

i don't presume to second guess professionals such as our coach. i let them make the choices. i also allow pilots to fly planes without my input.

whomever THEY sign, is who i'm loyal to.
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Old 11-07-2013, 09:14 AM   #84
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Here is an interesting read on Incognito including how he got his last name.

Also, I was listing to Dan Patrick this morning and he had Armondo on a call. Armondo mentioned that he heard the voicemail and at the end Incognito laughs and says "okay, call me back" in a tone like it was friendly. I don't know. But what an interesting spectacle.

He also said that when the media entered the locker room yesterday in Miami that the players had a circus theme playing loudly.

From Article: Those who know Incognito say he gets his fire from his father, Richard Sr., the son of an Italian father and German mother who immigrated to the United States. Richard likes to tell the story of the Incognito name: When his father was processed at Ellis Island, he said he did not want to keep his family name, so the official bestowed upon him the name “Incognito.”


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We are doing exactly what everyone else did to us with the Bountygate crap to Incognito. We are judging the guy off what the media is giving us. We dont know the whole truth. We were quick to defend the Saints when the media was not giving out everything now we are bashing Incognito without the whole story. Come on now!! We expected more out of the people bashing us and now we are doing the same. Lets get the facts out.
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I think we are just getting snippettes of what really went down. Remember how fast people were to judge us on the whole Bounty bullcrap. I'll reserve judgement on this one until I hear some more facts.

I know I hated it when we were publicly hung so fast; lets give some courtesy.
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We are doing exactly what everyone else did to us with the Bountygate crap to Incognito. We are judging the guy off what the media is giving us. We dont know the whole truth. We were quick to defend the Saints when the media was not giving out everything now we are bashing Incognito without the whole story. Come on now!! We expected more out of the people bashing us and now we are doing the same. Lets get the facts out.
You probably think Aaron Hernandez is still innocent don't you?
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You probably think Aaron Hernandez is still innocent don't you?
No. They have shown all the evidence that points to him as being guilty. SMH he tried to destroy evidence and the cops knew what he was doing. they found the gun used in the murder that was registerd to Hernandez. With Incognito we only heard part of the voicemail not the whole thing so ya. You are doing EXACTLY what everyone did to us with the Bountygate. Only hearing the parts you want and jumping to conclusions.
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HAIL NO.

I've seen enough of Richie's shenanigans over the years to know he is a dirty player who I do not want anywhere around our locker room (unless he is cleaning it).

And to the poster who said he should go to Atlanta, smh man no WAY, then we have to play him twice a year and put up with his antics that much more
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No. They have shown all the evidence that points to him as being guilty. SMH he tried to destroy evidence and the cops knew what he was doing. they found the gun used in the murder that was registerd to Hernandez. With Incognito we only heard part of the voicemail not the whole thing so ya. You are doing EXACTLY what everyone did to us with the Bountygate. Only hearing the parts you want and jumping to conclusions.
He said what he said and there's no getting around it. But I would love to hear your justifiable spin condoning what he did on multiple occasions.

"Hey, wassup, you half n----- piece of s---. I saw you on Twitter, you been training 10 weeks. [I want to] s--- in your f---ing mouth. [I'm going to] slap your f---ing mouth. [I'm going to] slap your real mother across the face [laughter]. F--- you, you're still a rookie. I'll kill you."

Sources tell ESPN NFL Insider Adam Schefter that officials from both the NFL and the Dolphins have heard the tape and have copies of the message.

Sources familiar with the tapes say these are terms Incognito used over time and were not isolated incidents, including the use of the racial epithet multiple times.

Sources also say Martin received a series of texts that included derogatory terms referring to the female anatomy and sexual orientation.
Even his play on and off the field show how much of a stand up guy he is. I'm sure it's all just a big misunderstanding.
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