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exile 11-12-2013 03:28 PM

Saints Work Out Kickers
 

New Orleans Saints work out three kickers Tuesday, report says | NOLA.com

Danno 11-12-2013 03:30 PM

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Yes!
Unfortunately we'll probably keep two K's on the roster instead of replacing Hartley. We'll lose a back-up somewhere.

dizzle88 11-12-2013 03:36 PM

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Finally!!

Halo 11-12-2013 03:36 PM

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If you ask me, it's almost 2 years overdue.
They gave this kid 3rd and 4th chances, now we need to hire a big boy and not a choir boy. They're looking at a deep playoff run and how can anyone say they can depend on this kid to win some games, I have no clue!

ScottF 11-12-2013 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 547532)
Yes!
Unfortunately we'll probably keep two K's on the roster instead of replacing Hartley. We'll lose a back-up somewhere.

I don't know... if we sign someone, why not just cut Hartley? It's been 5 years...rip the band-aid off already.

Mardigras9 11-12-2013 03:41 PM

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I would hate it to come down to a field goal again for a chance to go to the superbowl and Hartley line up to kick, I really don't think my heart could take it.
He just is so sporatic. His on the road % is higher than at home, how does that happen in a Dome?

Halo 11-12-2013 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by ScottF (Post 547536)
I don't know... if we sign someone, why not just cut Hartley? It's been 5 years...rip the band-aid off already.

I dunno, I think we're cutting ties this time. Obviously the babying isn't working and it's unfair to the player. He can go to another city and still get his head straight, but apparently not with our organization.

His contract ends soon, so it's not like a huge cap loss to cut him (someone correct me if I'm wrong).

Facts are - WE DON'T EVEN HAVE A REGULAR, STEADY KICKER!!!
Much less a CHAMPIONSHIP kicker. What have you done for me lately is the motto of the NFL, and XLIV or not, this kid is going to KILL us in a close game and cost us HFA in the playoffs AGAIN!!!

SmashMouth 11-12-2013 03:47 PM

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Sign Kickalicious!

exile 11-12-2013 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Halo (Post 547535)
If you ask me, it's almost 2 years overdue.
They gave this kid 3rd and 4th chances, now we need to hire a big boy and not a choir boy. They're looking at a deep playoff run and how can anyone say they can depend on this kid to win some games, I have no clue!

To be fair I think Hartley may have been injured last game. He was holding the inside of his leg after one kick if I remember correctly. Or maybe I was just drinking too much.

RaginCajun83 11-12-2013 04:00 PM

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Sign Rackers, its been 3 years to long that they have been hanging on to Shankalicious

biloxi-indian 11-12-2013 04:24 PM

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Add two more...


Ramon Antonio Vargas ‏@RVargasAdvocate 27m
the 5 kickers the #saints worked out today are John Potter, Brandon McManus, Shayne Graham, Neil Rackers and Derek Dimke, sources tell me.

RockyMountainSaint 11-12-2013 04:33 PM

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His Adderall scrip expired.

Oh wait, he never had a scrip.......

Srgt. Hulka 11-12-2013 04:34 PM

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I told you guys last week that that 55 yarder in the Jets game was his job. He misses, we never see him again. That's why coach didn't punt. He made so he got one more chance. He missed against the Cowboys, now he's toast.

ChrisXVI 11-12-2013 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by RockyMountainSaint (Post 547557)
His Adderall scrip expired.

Oh wait, he never had a scrip.......

Joe Vitt probably supplies those as well as the Vicodin.

RockyMountainSaint 11-12-2013 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 547564)
Joe Vitt probably supplies those as well as the Vicodin.

And Rob Ryan's SUPER-DUPER Rogaine!

Barry from MS 11-12-2013 05:04 PM

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If we sign a kicker and still keep Frodo, I will be one sad panda. I think Rackers would be my preference with his 80% career FG percentage. He has lost a bit of leg strength, but if he's consistent between 30-45 yards, I'm all good.

dizzle88 11-12-2013 05:36 PM

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If only robbie gould fancied a change from windy chicago, that guy is automatic

Donuts32 11-12-2013 05:58 PM

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Didn't we go through this before when we had Hartley and Kasay on the same roster or was it Carney? Either way we need to cut him he's not worth a roster spot.

CoreyO 11-12-2013 06:05 PM

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Thank god

TheOak 11-12-2013 06:06 PM

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Cutting Hartley accelerates $1.5M in dead money and we have $2.4M in cap space.

Hartley stays, we bring in a 2nd FG kicker and Chris Carr is cut again to make room.

TheOak 11-12-2013 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by RockyMountainSaint (Post 547557)
His Adderall scrip expired.

Oh wait, he never had a scrip.......

He was on his way to.... Oh look a bird!

exile 11-12-2013 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 547580)
Cutting Hartley accelerates $1.5M in dead money and we have $2.4M in cap space.

Hartley stays, we bring in a 2nd FG kicker and Chris Carr is cut again to make room.

Well that makes me wonder even more if it's an injury and Hartley goes to IR.

Euphoria 11-12-2013 06:15 PM

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Got to suck knowing there are 5 guys dressing out in the locker room trying to take your job. lol.

Rugby Saint II 11-12-2013 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Euphoria (Post 547583)
Got to suck knowing there are 5 guys dressing out in the locker room trying to take your job. lol.

errrrr.........someone is taking his job!:dunce:

Seer1 11-12-2013 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Euphoria (Post 547583)
Got to suck knowing there are 5 guys dressing out in the locker room trying to take your job. lol.

Hell, I'm told there's ten guys wanting to take my job every time I ask for a raise.

ClintSaints 11-12-2013 06:30 PM

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Shayne Graham all the way. Not Neil Rackers please, he missed a 34 yard field goal in the wild card round against the Packers so he's a choke artist as well.

But Shayne Graham, I like. Goodbye Garrett Hartley, you were warned repeatedly not to choke, but you must go before you cost us more games.

DISPLACEDFAN 11-12-2013 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 547546)
Sign Kickalicious!

I've been a advocate of signing him for weeks now. We could get him for the league min more than likely.

The salary cap in my mind isn't going to be hurt by cutting Hartley as much as a missed FG in the playoffs. I say take the hit and call it a day

you guys need to stop being so fixated of this salary cap crap there is always ways to manipulate the cap move money or cut and resign plus a guy on injured reserve isn't entitled to full salary I don't know exactly how that works but there is a provision that states that someone on injured reserve gets lees than the money due

WhoDat!656 11-12-2013 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Mardigras9 (Post 547539)
I would hate it to come down to a field goal again for a chance to go to the superbowl and Hartley line up to kick, I really don't think my heart could take it.
He just is so sporatic. His on the road % is higher than at home, how does that happen in a Dome?

How was your heart when Hartley lined up to kick the FG in OT in the NFCC game?

Or when he set a Super Bowl record by kicking three 40 yd+ FGs.

There has NEVER in the history of the NFL been a kicker that was 100% and there never will be. Hell, even Morton Anderson was known to shank a few.

IMO, anytime a field goal is attempted, the offense has failed.

Danno 11-12-2013 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 (Post 547593)
How was your heart when Hartley lined up to kick the FG in OT in the NFCC game?

Or when he set a Super Bowl record by kicking three 40 yd+ FGs.

There has NEVER in the history of the NFL been a kicker that was 100% and there never will be. Hell, even Morton Anderson was known to shank a few.

IMO, anytime a field goal is attempted, the offense has failed.

That was 4 years ago. I'm now more convinced he'll miss one than make one.

biloxi-indian 11-12-2013 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by exile (Post 547582)
Well that makes me wonder even more if it's an injury and Hartley goes to IR.

IR = Hartley could have a severe case of an infected gluteus maximus from the arse chewing Payton is giving him.

voodooido 11-12-2013 08:45 PM

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Well, I am now o the bash Hartley bandwagon. I would much rather have a kicker that can kick 100% 35 and under instead of 50% of 50+.

dueceloose 11-12-2013 10:05 PM

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I think this is just a motivation tactic. Example Hou kicker (forget his name) missed 2 important kicks.. houston brings in kickers to scare the dude. next week he makes a 45 yarder.. I don't see us cutting ties this late in the season.

|Mitch| 11-12-2013 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by voodooido (Post 547618)
Well, I am now o the bash Hartley bandwagon. I would much rather have a kicker that can kick 100% 35 and under instead of 50% of 50+.

Absolutely not! A missed 35 yarder puts the opponent in much worse field position than 40-55 yards...

QBREES9 11-12-2013 10:51 PM

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Hartley, a six-year veteran, is most known for his performance in the 2009 playoffs where he hit the game-winning field goal in overtime to beat Minnesota in the NFC championship game and three field goals in Super Bowl XLIV.


New Orleans Saints work out several kickers Tuesday, report says | NOLA.com

jeanpierre 11-13-2013 12:13 AM

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Good; if he folds, then it was time for him to geaux...

jnormand 11-13-2013 12:38 AM

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He ain't goin anywhere. Hartley is going to stay. I agree this is a motivational tactic. Whatever Sean thinks I'm good with.

RailBoss 11-13-2013 12:39 AM

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John Carney is only 49 he still runs the kicking clinic in San Diego.

LBCutta 11-13-2013 02:46 AM

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This motivational tactic has been used on Hartley before....I think Payton is for real now. Get rid of Fartley, this aint 2009 anymore. What have you done for me lately? MISS KICKS!

The Jets game would have been tied 26-26 if he would have made his kicks.

SmashMouth 11-13-2013 03:36 AM

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Originally Posted by LBCutta (Post 547647)
This motivational tactic has been used on Hartley before....I think Payton is for real now. Get rid of Fartley, this aint 2009 anymore. What have you done for me lately? MISS KICKS!

The Jets game would have been tied 26-26 if he would have made his kicks.

Stats show he only missed one.
New Orleans Saints vs. New York Jets - Box Score - November 03, 2013 - ESPN
The tipped balls for INTs cost us more in that game.

RockyMountainSaint 11-13-2013 04:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 547597)
That was 4 years ago. I'm now more convinced he'll miss one than make one.

Danno, I clicked the like thing.

It was not sufficient.

You summed up what I and everyone I know thinks right there.


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