so expect Hicks to be fined

ikecomp · 11-22-2013, 03:11 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

Just because something looks worse on film doesn't mean it is. If Bree's neck hadn't gone all rubber boy then that would not have even been called. I'm so tired of the pussification of today's qb. Hicks hit was just as illegal as Brooks. The Brees hit just looked worse on film.

I actually agree with you with regards to the hits on qbs. Where I differ is the comparison that nicks hit was worse. There was a lot more force behind the brooks hit (not saying that's a bad thing) and there was a follow through which started from the collarbone up through the neck area. Where as the nicks hit was incidental on the helmet at best and only for a moment before he could wrap ryan up and bring him to the ground. The nfl network guys were acting like nicks bashed ryan over the head with a sledgehammer and then snatched out his soul mortal kombat style.

Danno · 11-22-2013, 03:13 PM

It wouldn't surprise me at all if Hicks was not fined.

iceshack149 · 11-22-2013, 03:32 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

It wouldn't surprise me at all if Hicks was not fined.

It would surprise me. There was a big stink made by the guys calling the game and many others. Goodell will cave and issue a fine.
In a way, I hope he does get fined. Enough of this Ahmad Brooks stuff. It's becoming as stale as the Incognito garbage.

nola_swammi · 11-22-2013, 03:48 PM

I agree that Brooks should be fined, the initial blow was bad and the follow through is what caused the fine (right hand underneath Brees chin)

Hicks even though it was a blatant hand to the face mask it wasn't as nearly as harmful to a player well being or health

skymike · 11-22-2013, 05:15 PM

Originally Posted by ikecomp

Interesting question. I believe the answer is yes though. They did that to Suh one time

However, the nicks hit wasn't anywhere as bad. Plus he made it a point to wrap his arms around ryan once he made contact instead of just following through with the clothesline. I'm borderline on whether it should be a penalty or not.

yes, you can be fined for a non-penalty call.

jlouhill · 11-22-2013, 06:47 PM

Dirty, no. Illegal, yes. At least according to the rules. Yes he should have been flagged. What ticked me off was the announcers would not let it go. They even went so far as to say that it was more flagrant and worse than the hit on Drew. The media must have watched another Saints 9er's game last week in an alternate universe.

breesfan27 · 11-22-2013, 06:56 PM

I fully expect Ray "Stabby Murderer" Lewis to pay half of Hicks' fine. It's only fair.

Goldmember · 11-22-2013, 07:10 PM

What to watch for while reviewing:
First thing Matt Ryan does after the hit is he put both of his hands up asking for a flag.
Drew Brees laid on the ground with 2 saints on top of him after the Brooks hit. Which was obviously much more intense and physical than Hicks' hit on Matt Ryan.

Perhaps if Matt Ryan were more tough, and hadnt inquired for a flag before even standing up, he would have gotten the flag he deserved? Drew was told to "get tough" because a flag was thrown on his hit. Completely unjustified.

I fully expect Bruschi to run his mouth about Ryan's lack of toughness for LITERALLY asking for the flag, where drew brees did no such thing. Drew went out of his way to say that he felt it was not a malicious hit but expected a penalty. Just like Matt Ryan, no? Where you at Tedi? Misplaced hate to the max.

And I also fully expect Ray Lewis to gripe about this passionately just as he did for Brooks. and offer to pay half of Hicks' fine since he is also a defensive player doing everything he can to do his job the right way.

CoreyO · 11-22-2013, 07:47 PM

The hits were not the same, brooks clothes lined Brees and hicks did more of a facemask grab then transitioned to pulling him down by his shoulders, it wassnt a intense hit but i do agree he should of been flaged for facemask

SmashMouth · 11-22-2013, 08:27 PM

Originally Posted by breesfan27

I fully expect Ray "Stabby Murderer" Lewis to pay half of Hicks' fine. It's only fair.

Yes indeed.... And RayRay should be reminded...we should all email him.

11-22-2013, 03:11 PM	#31
ikecomp 100th Post Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 329	Re: so expect Hicks to be fined Originally Posted by The Dude Just because something looks worse on film doesn't mean it is. If Bree's neck hadn't gone all rubber boy then that would not have even been called. I'm so tired of the pussification of today's qb. Hicks hit was just as illegal as Brooks. The Brees hit just looked worse on film. I actually agree with you with regards to the hits on qbs. Where I differ is the comparison that nicks hit was worse. There was a lot more force behind the brooks hit (not saying that's a bad thing) and there was a follow through which started from the collarbone up through the neck area. Where as the nicks hit was incidental on the helmet at best and only for a moment before he could wrap ryan up and bring him to the ground. The nfl network guys were acting like nicks bashed ryan over the head with a sledgehammer and then snatched out his soul mortal kombat style.
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11-22-2013, 03:13 PM	#32
Danno Site Donor 2014 Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,640	Re: so expect Hicks to be fined It wouldn't surprise me at all if Hicks was not fined.

11-22-2013, 03:32 PM	#33
iceshack149 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 4,089 Blog Entries: 1	Re: so expect Hicks to be fined Originally Posted by Danno It wouldn't surprise me at all if Hicks was not fined. It would surprise me. There was a big stink made by the guys calling the game and many others. Goodell will cave and issue a fine. In a way, I hope he does get fined. Enough of this Ahmad Brooks stuff. It's becoming as stale as the Incognito garbage.

11-22-2013, 03:48 PM	#34
nola_swammi 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Monroe, La Posts: 2,626	Re: so expect Hicks to be fined I agree that Brooks should be fined, the initial blow was bad and the follow through is what caused the fine (right hand underneath Brees chin) Hicks even though it was a blatant hand to the face mask it wasn't as nearly as harmful to a player well being or health

11-22-2013, 05:15 PM	#35
skymike E. Side Cholo Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Barrio, H-town Posts: 6,089	Re: so expect Hicks to be fined Originally Posted by ikecomp Interesting question. I believe the answer is yes though. They did that to Suh one time However, the nicks hit wasn't anywhere as bad. Plus he made it a point to wrap his arms around ryan once he made contact instead of just following through with the clothesline. I'm borderline on whether it should be a penalty or not. yes, you can be fined for a non-penalty call.

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11-22-2013, 06:47 PM	#36
jlouhill 500th Post Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Denton, Tx. Posts: 676	Re: so expect Hicks to be fined Dirty, no. Illegal, yes. At least according to the rules. Yes he should have been flagged. What ticked me off was the announcers would not let it go. They even went so far as to say that it was more flagrant and worse than the hit on Drew. The media must have watched another Saints 9er's game last week in an alternate universe.

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breesfan27 Mrs. Drew Brees Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: The Who Dat Nation (by way of South Dakota) Posts: 2,276 Blog Entries: 1	Re: so expect Hicks to be fined I fully expect Ray "Stabby Murderer" Lewis to pay half of Hicks' fine. It's only fair. SmashMouth and Goldmember like this.

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Goldmember Registered Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 46	Re: so expect Hicks to be fined What to watch for while reviewing: First thing Matt Ryan does after the hit is he put both of his hands up asking for a flag. Drew Brees laid on the ground with 2 saints on top of him after the Brooks hit. Which was obviously much more intense and physical than Hicks' hit on Matt Ryan. Perhaps if Matt Ryan were more tough, and hadnt inquired for a flag before even standing up, he would have gotten the flag he deserved? Drew was told to "get tough" because a flag was thrown on his hit. Completely unjustified. I fully expect Bruschi to run his mouth about Ryan's lack of toughness for LITERALLY asking for the flag, where drew brees did no such thing. Drew went out of his way to say that he felt it was not a malicious hit but expected a penalty. Just like Matt Ryan, no? Where you at Tedi? Misplaced hate to the max. And I also fully expect Ray Lewis to gripe about this passionately just as he did for Brooks. and offer to pay half of Hicks' fine since he is also a defensive player doing everything he can to do his job the right way.
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CoreyO 500th Post Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 550	Re: so expect Hicks to be fined The hits were not the same, brooks clothes lined Brees and hicks did more of a facemask grab then transitioned to pulling him down by his shoulders, it wassnt a intense hit but i do agree he should of been flaged for facemask
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11-22-2013, 08:27 PM	#40
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 36,987 Blog Entries: 29	Re: so expect Hicks to be fined Originally Posted by breesfan27 I fully expect Ray "Stabby Murderer" Lewis to pay half of Hicks' fine. It's only fair. Yes indeed.... And RayRay should be reminded...we should all email him.

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