What position would you like to see the Saints go for in the draft?

FinSaint · 11-24-2013, 03:12 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

And also think about where our quality/depth is on defense. We look pretty solid at DT, DE, and Safety. OLB and CB not so much.

I'd like for them to add another impact CB, since Robinson probably missed his last chance to prove his worth due to the season ending injury.

But I don't know if they're looking that great at safety, because the only safeties they have under contract for next season are Harper and Vaccaro. Harper will have a $5.9M cap hit next season, which carries $3.7M of dead money, so it'll be a toss up whether to release him or keep him (apart from trading of course). Jenkins will be an UFA, while both Bush and Abdul-Quddus will be RFAs. Bringing in another starter caliber safety to pair up with Vaccaro sounds like a very good alternative if the right player will be available for the Saints (i.e. someone like Harrison Smith from the Vikes as far as the skill-set goes).

GOULA SAINT · 11-24-2013, 05:34 PM

I think we need to start refilling the OL, as Bree's gets older the more dominate our line is the better the run game can be and take pressure off of him

FeelTheBrees · 11-24-2013, 06:28 PM

Round 1 - OL
Round 2 - CB
Round 3 - OL
Round 4 - CB
Round 5 - Best defensive player available
Round 6 - Best offensive player available

hagan714 · 11-24-2013, 06:45 PM

Austin Wentworth, OT/OG Fresno State
6046 305 5.18/5.05

nice project player for sure.

OLB Telvin Smith, Florida State
i pause because he is a light weights and wonder how his aggressive styles will do at nfl level. i see IR if they do not change nis ways. then what happens to his game from the change?

Howard Jones, OLB/DE Shepherd
6016 235 4.54/4.45

Not a bad prospect at all i am still looking into him.

i am hoping we get some good coverage LB in the draft that can run.

CB Stanley Jean-Baptiste, Nebraska

now here is my number 1 "what if" type of player. lets see what the combine beauty trials show. maybe safety is were he needs to be. but if you want INT's he is your man. question is are you willing to invest the 2 to 3 years to develop the kid? another corey white treatment. he could pay off big time but what are the odds? i think pretty good

hagan714 · 11-24-2013, 06:53 PM

Originally Posted by FeelTheBrees

Round 1 - OL
Round 2 - CB
Round 3 - OL
Round 4 - CB
Round 5 - Best defensive player available
Round 6 - Best offensive player available

love it offense defense offense defense offense defense

i am guessing here but the OL and CB are top priority. i could live with it

Schmohams · 11-24-2013, 11:29 PM

I'm thinking LB in 2nd round, like Kiko Alonso. He was a huge steal for the Bills. And i'm not saying it's a coincidence or anything but Rickey Jackson was also picked in the 2nd round

Exxcalibur · 11-24-2013, 11:53 PM

Teams with a weak secondary get cut up like chumps. Look at what Alex Smith, of all people, did to the Chargers today ( despite the loss), look at Denver, and then look at how better teams shut down the pass. You can never have too much D imo.

O weapons are good atm.

Jack Vegas · 11-25-2013, 12:26 AM

Corner - Who knows if Greer will be able to come back. I like the guy from TCU - Verrett. He is the kind of guy who can play in the slot and cover the quick shifty guys. Lewis/White/Robinson are all upright physical corners and that's great, but we need a Greer-type player if he's not going to be around.

Outside/rush linebacker - What if we had one of those superstud 6-6 rush linebackers with speed? this defense would be downright dominant with a guy like that to line up with Galette and Jordan on the pass rush.

Guard - this is a spot where you can get a good player who is almost guaranteed to be productive in the 4th round or so. I love that Jackson kid from Miss. St. Reminds me a ton of Carl Nicks.

Wide receiver - Maybe Toon pans out, but we don't know. Another Colston type would be nice.

Left tackle - pile 'em up, hope one pans out. It seems to me Brown is not the long-term guy here. Armstead might be, but it would be good to have another young guy with talent in case he's not.

DT/3-4 end - Somebody who can provide depth. We have good players here now but if you want to continue having dominant d-lines every year you have to constantly be bringing in new hungry guys and grooming them to be starters.

Marching · 11-25-2013, 01:28 AM

Originally Posted by Jack Vegas

Corner - Who knows if Greer will be able to come back. I like the guy from TCU - Verrett. He is the kind of guy who can play in the slot and cover the quick shifty guys. Lewis/White/Robinson are all upright physical corners and that's great, but we need a Greer-type player if he's not going to be around.

Outside/rush linebacker - What if we had one of those superstud 6-6 rush linebackers with speed? this defense would be downright dominant with a guy like that to line up with Galette and Jordan on the pass rush.

Guard - this is a spot where you can get a good player who is almost guaranteed to be productive in the 4th round or so. I love that Jackson kid from Miss. St. Reminds me a ton of Carl Nicks.

Wide receiver - Maybe Toon pans out, but we don't know. Another Colston type would be nice.

Left tackle - pile 'em up, hope one pans out. It seems to me Brown is not the long-term guy here. Armstead might be, but it would be good to have another young guy with talent in case he's not.

DT/3-4 end - Somebody who can provide depth. We have good players here now but if you want to continue having dominant d-lines every year you have to constantly be bringing in new hungry guys and grooming them to be starters.

Good post.

I like Verrett as well, but he may be off the board by the time our first round pick rolls around. The CB I've got my eye on is Darqueze Dennard from Michigan State. He's a straight up stud. He's more of the physical type, like Corey White is, but imo he can cover the quick/shifty guys as well. He was lockdown against Jeremy Gallon (WR for Michigan Wolverines) who is a very good player.

Agree with what you said on that type of LBer. That's exactly why I mentioned Adrian Hubbard earlier in this thread.

I don't know much about OLinemen, so I can't really comment on that.

Yeah. Adding another Colston-type WR would be marvelous. Nick Toon could be that guy if he learns how to stop having stone hands, but if he doesn't pan out, picking up a WR would be nice.

Has Brown really been that bad this year? Idk, maybe I'm not paying enough attention, but thinking about it now, it doesn't seem like a lot of defenders are pressuring Brees from Brown's side of the field.

dueceloose · 11-25-2013, 04:22 AM

Can we pick up a SB ring along the way?

11-24-2013, 03:12 PM	#41
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,955	Re: What position would you like to see the Saints go for in the draft? Originally Posted by Danno And also think about where our quality/depth is on defense. We look pretty solid at DT, DE, and Safety. OLB and CB not so much. I'd like for them to add another impact CB, since Robinson probably missed his last chance to prove his worth due to the season ending injury. But I don't know if they're looking that great at safety, because the only safeties they have under contract for next season are Harper and Vaccaro. Harper will have a $5.9M cap hit next season, which carries $3.7M of dead money, so it'll be a toss up whether to release him or keep him (apart from trading of course). Jenkins will be an UFA, while both Bush and Abdul-Quddus will be RFAs. Bringing in another starter caliber safety to pair up with Vaccaro sounds like a very good alternative if the right player will be available for the Saints (i.e. someone like Harrison Smith from the Vikes as far as the skill-set goes). hagan714 and halloween 65 like this.
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11-24-2013, 05:34 PM	#42
GOULA SAINT Good Times Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 87	Re: What position would you like to see the Saints go for in the draft? I think we need to start refilling the OL, as Bree's gets older the more dominate our line is the better the run game can be and take pressure off of him hagan714 likes this.
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11-24-2013, 06:28 PM	#43
FeelTheBrees Registered Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 60	Re: What position would you like to see the Saints go for in the draft? Round 1 - OL Round 2 - CB Round 3 - OL Round 4 - CB Round 5 - Best defensive player available Round 6 - Best offensive player available hagan714 likes this.
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11-24-2013, 06:45 PM	#44
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: What position would you like to see the Saints go for in the draft? Austin Wentworth, OT/OG Fresno State 6046 305 5.18/5.05 nice project player for sure. OLB Telvin Smith, Florida State i pause because he is a light weights and wonder how his aggressive styles will do at nfl level. i see IR if they do not change nis ways. then what happens to his game from the change? Howard Jones, OLB/DE Shepherd 6016 235 4.54/4.45 Not a bad prospect at all i am still looking into him. i am hoping we get some good coverage LB in the draft that can run. CB Stanley Jean-Baptiste, Nebraska now here is my number 1 "what if" type of player. lets see what the combine beauty trials show. maybe safety is were he needs to be. but if you want INT's he is your man. question is are you willing to invest the 2 to 3 years to develop the kid? another corey white treatment. he could pay off big time but what are the odds? i think pretty good
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11-24-2013, 06:53 PM	#45
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: What position would you like to see the Saints go for in the draft? Originally Posted by FeelTheBrees Round 1 - OL Round 2 - CB Round 3 - OL Round 4 - CB Round 5 - Best defensive player available Round 6 - Best offensive player available love it offense defense offense defense offense defense i am guessing here but the OL and CB are top priority. i could live with it

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11-24-2013, 11:29 PM	#46
Schmohams 500th Post Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Texas Posts: 551	Re: What position would you like to see the Saints go for in the draft? I'm thinking LB in 2nd round, like Kiko Alonso. He was a huge steal for the Bills. And i'm not saying it's a coincidence or anything but Rickey Jackson was also picked in the 2nd round

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Exxcalibur Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 1,389	Re: What position would you like to see the Saints go for in the draft? Teams with a weak secondary get cut up like chumps. Look at what Alex Smith, of all people, did to the Chargers today ( despite the loss), look at Denver, and then look at how better teams shut down the pass. You can never have too much D imo. O weapons are good atm.

11-25-2013, 12:26 AM	#48
Jack Vegas 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 2,254	Re: What position would you like to see the Saints go for in the draft? Corner - Who knows if Greer will be able to come back. I like the guy from TCU - Verrett. He is the kind of guy who can play in the slot and cover the quick shifty guys. Lewis/White/Robinson are all upright physical corners and that's great, but we need a Greer-type player if he's not going to be around. Outside/rush linebacker - What if we had one of those superstud 6-6 rush linebackers with speed? this defense would be downright dominant with a guy like that to line up with Galette and Jordan on the pass rush. Guard - this is a spot where you can get a good player who is almost guaranteed to be productive in the 4th round or so. I love that Jackson kid from Miss. St. Reminds me a ton of Carl Nicks. Wide receiver - Maybe Toon pans out, but we don't know. Another Colston type would be nice. Left tackle - pile 'em up, hope one pans out. It seems to me Brown is not the long-term guy here. Armstead might be, but it would be good to have another young guy with talent in case he's not. DT/3-4 end - Somebody who can provide depth. We have good players here now but if you want to continue having dominant d-lines every year you have to constantly be bringing in new hungry guys and grooming them to be starters. hagan714, Exxcalibur and Marching like this.
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11-25-2013, 01:28 AM	#49
Marching Registered Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 53	Re: What position would you like to see the Saints go for in the draft? Originally Posted by Jack Vegas Corner - Who knows if Greer will be able to come back. I like the guy from TCU - Verrett. He is the kind of guy who can play in the slot and cover the quick shifty guys. Lewis/White/Robinson are all upright physical corners and that's great, but we need a Greer-type player if he's not going to be around. Outside/rush linebacker - What if we had one of those superstud 6-6 rush linebackers with speed? this defense would be downright dominant with a guy like that to line up with Galette and Jordan on the pass rush. Guard - this is a spot where you can get a good player who is almost guaranteed to be productive in the 4th round or so. I love that Jackson kid from Miss. St. Reminds me a ton of Carl Nicks. Wide receiver - Maybe Toon pans out, but we don't know. Another Colston type would be nice. Left tackle - pile 'em up, hope one pans out. It seems to me Brown is not the long-term guy here. Armstead might be, but it would be good to have another young guy with talent in case he's not. DT/3-4 end - Somebody who can provide depth. We have good players here now but if you want to continue having dominant d-lines every year you have to constantly be bringing in new hungry guys and grooming them to be starters. Good post. I like Verrett as well, but he may be off the board by the time our first round pick rolls around. The CB I've got my eye on is Darqueze Dennard from Michigan State. He's a straight up stud. He's more of the physical type, like Corey White is, but imo he can cover the quick/shifty guys as well. He was lockdown against Jeremy Gallon (WR for Michigan Wolverines) who is a very good player. Agree with what you said on that type of LBer. That's exactly why I mentioned Adrian Hubbard earlier in this thread. I don't know much about OLinemen, so I can't really comment on that. Yeah. Adding another Colston-type WR would be marvelous. Nick Toon could be that guy if he learns how to stop having stone hands, but if he doesn't pan out, picking up a WR would be nice. Has Brown really been that bad this year? Idk, maybe I'm not paying enough attention, but thinking about it now, it doesn't seem like a lot of defenders are pressuring Brees from Brown's side of the field. hagan714 likes this.
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