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SASaintsfan 11-24-2013 09:58 AM

Seattle CB Walter Thurmond Suspension
 
Per Adam Schefter twitter

Seahawks CB Walter Thurmond is facing a four-game suspension for violating NFL Policy for Substances of Abuse, as @RapSheet reported.
9:38am - 24 Nov 13


These defensive players on the sea chickens can't stay away from "substances" or PEDS

SaintsBro 11-24-2013 10:06 AM

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Yup. Is this the sixth or the seventh Seahawk player suspended for PED's? If they all got busted at the same time, there probably wouldn't be anybody left to line up and play.

ScottF 11-24-2013 10:09 AM

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Last season, Browner and Sherman were suspended four games for using Adderall, but Sherman's punishment was overturned on appeal. Since 2011, five Seahawks have been suspended for violating the substance abuse policy.

he's not a starter, but has 31 tackles as a nickel
he will appeal, but that should be settled before the MNF game

SASaintsfan 11-24-2013 10:12 AM

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I believe it's 6 PED and 1 substance suspension under Carroll. Running a clean program just like he did at USC. He is starting in place of Browner who is injured right now.

SeahawkDude 11-24-2013 10:25 AM

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He was set up.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...ptoeso8dd1.gif

hagan714 11-24-2013 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by SeahawkDude (Post 552709)

it was the hookers fault? she doped him? :p

lsusaint912 11-24-2013 10:33 AM

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Legion of Boom..... more like Legion of Adderall

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NonieT 11-24-2013 10:35 AM

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Thurmond reportedly will drop his appeal this week in order to be ready for the playoffs.

SaintSproles 11-24-2013 10:38 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ScottF (Post 552707)
Last season, Browner and Sherman were suspended four games for using Adderall, but Sherman's punishment was overturned on appeal. Since 2011, five Seahawks have been suspended for violating the substance abuse policy.

he's not a starter, but has 31 tackles as a nickel
he will appeal, but that should be settled before the MNF game

well he was the starter filling in for Browner over the next 4 games

now the Seattle CB depth has taken a huge hit

look for the Saints to attack through the air

SaintSproles 11-24-2013 10:39 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lsusaint912 (Post 552714)
Legion of Boom..... more like Legion of Adderall

Sent from my SGH-S959G using Tapatalk 2

I say we rename them the "Legion of Shroom"

ScottF 11-24-2013 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by NonieT (Post 552717)
Quote:
Thurmond reportedly will drop his appeal this week in order to be ready for the playoffs.

good for us, but makes more sense to appeal and try and play Monday, and then miss the next 4

Marching 11-24-2013 11:10 AM

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Thurmond is suspended, and Brandon Browner is out 4-6 weeks with injury.

Lord_Saint83 11-24-2013 12:48 PM

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Excellent, if he serves immediately plus browner out the sea dicks will be mighty short on solid cb's. Sherman can't cover everyone. Looks like things are gonna be in the Saints favor.

jeanpierre 11-24-2013 01:29 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 552713)
it was the hookers fault? she doped him? :p


That's right, blame it all on Sweet Pea...

Can't a working girl just earn her coin and get by?!?

jeanpierre 11-24-2013 01:30 PM

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If the cornerbacks are out - I say geaux all SP on them and RUN THE DAMN BALL!

That way there's no excuses and our wanna-be offensive linemen and tenderize that meat for the playoffs...

|Mitch| 11-24-2013 01:39 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 552752)
If the cornerbacks are out - I say geaux all SP on them and RUN THE DAMN BALL!

That way there's no excuses and our wanna-be offensive linemen and tenderize that meat for the playoffs...

Until they move the safeties in the box and then Graham has another 5 for 100+ like he's known to do...

Jack Vegas 11-24-2013 01:50 PM

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If Sherman covers Graham, Colston will feast on backup DB's. If Sherman covers Colston and somehow their safeties and LB's contain Graham, then Stills/Moore/Meachem will feast on backup DB's.

Danno 11-24-2013 09:18 PM

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Saw this recap over on SR...

Bruce Irvin, 4 games, May 2013
Brandon Browner, 4 games, Dec 2012
Richard Sherman, 4 games, Dec 2012 (won on appeal)
Winston Guy, 4 games, Nov 2012
Allen Barbre, 4 games, May 2012
John Moffitt, 4 games, Dec 2011

Seattle's 13th man...

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/dam/ass...-story-top.jpg

saintfan 11-24-2013 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by SeahawkDude (Post 552709)

Just another case of "the man" trying to bring him down.

:banana:

Schmohams 11-24-2013 11:17 PM

Re: Seattle CB Walter Thurmond Suspension
 
We talk about how they are thin at Cb but we are even thinner. We also lost 2 of our top 3 CB so they are probably talking about the same thing.

AlaskaSaints 11-25-2013 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Schmohams (Post 552878)
We talk about how they are thin at Cb but we are even thinner. We also lost 2 of our top 3 CB so they are probably talking about the same thing.

Show me. We just beat Matty (Elite) Ice and his receiving corps, less-one.

;-]]

Alaska

Jack Vegas 11-25-2013 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Schmohams (Post 552878)
We talk about how they are thin at Cb but we are even thinner. We also lost 2 of our top 3 CB so they are probably talking about the same thing.

The difference is those guys are the strength of their defense, playing man press coverage on the outside is what sets them up for success. see this article Super corners set limits, rest of Seahawks' dominant D fills in gaps - CBSSports.com

Our defense on the other hand is set up by the d-line so the secondary guys have a certain amount of slack.

Also from the above article, the Saints have a schematic advantage on offense in that they run a lot of bunched sets and tight formations so they can hide some pre-snap reads from the defense and force them to play zone.

I think we beat the Seahawks comfortably, maybe by 10 or 13. They haven't seen a team like the Saints yet. I mean, look at their schedule, talk about soft. If we had played that schedule we'd probably be undefeated right now.

Marching 11-25-2013 01:34 AM

Re: Seattle CB Walter Thurmond Suspension
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Schmohams (Post 552878)
We talk about how they are thin at Cb but we are even thinner. We also lost 2 of our top 3 CB so they are probably talking about the same thing.

When you say we have lost 2 of our 3 CBs, do you mean Greer and Patrick Robinson? I agree on Greer, but Robinson is not one of our best CBs. Lewis, Greer, and White are all better than him if you ask me.

Jack Vegas 11-25-2013 07:18 AM

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Easy to bash on Robinson but he didn't have a chance to prove himself in the new defense. He is a good man-to-man corner and proved it in 2011 in a non-Spagnuolo scheme and IMO was off to a great start this year before the injury. If all were healthy and playing right now IMO Robinson would be the outside corner in the nickel with Greer playing the slot guy and White would be riding pine.

The only difference between people's opinions of Robinson and somebody like Hawthorne/Lofton/Jenkins/Galette/etc is that those guys got to redeem themselves now after playing in Spag's crappy scheme and looking terrible. P-Rob never really got the chance. Personaly, I feel like everybody from that Spag defense should get a clean slate b/c now we see the problem clearly wasn't the players, it was the coaching.

QBREES9 11-25-2013 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by SaintsBro (Post 552706)
Yup. Is this the sixth or the seventh Seahawk player suspended for PED's? If they all got busted at the same time, there probably wouldn't be anybody left to line up and play.

6th or 7th wow what going on under Pete's watch.

exile 11-25-2013 12:31 PM

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They are getting desperate now.

Report: Seahawks have reached out to Antoine Winfield | ProFootballTalk

dueceloose 11-25-2013 04:05 PM

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Desperation hmm shows weakness or worry.

UK_WhoDat 11-25-2013 04:14 PM

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Ped Carroll

SmashMouth 11-25-2013 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by exile (Post 553057)

http://www.wicfy.com/blog/wp-content...rying-baby.jpg

ChromeSeahwk 11-25-2013 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by UK_WhoDat (Post 553128)
Ped Carroll

IT WASN'T PEDs in this case.....man.

I'm not saying there won't be a slight dropoff, but the Hawks went down the stretch without Browner and Thurmond last season and went 4-0 in that period. Both Lane and Maxwell have played a lot the season and even their backups are very capable.....but it DOES hurt their depth though, and if the Saints want to spread the Hawks out, you may see some holes there.

ChromeSeahwk 11-25-2013 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by exile (Post 553057)

Antoine Winfield was on our squad in training camp and had been expected to start. He was still effective with the Vikings last year. He was cut because he couldn't compete with the depth that the Seahawks had available. Now some of that depth is being called upon, so we are exploring our options. He's intimately familiar with our defense and scheme so it makes sense for us to call on him. I don't think the Hawks are expecting him to come in and start....they are calling him in hopes for more depth.

Halo 11-25-2013 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ChromeSeahwk (Post 553159)
Antoine Winfield was on our squad in training camp and had been expected to start. He was still effective with the Vikings last year. He was cut because he couldn't compete with the depth that the Seahawks had available. Now some of that depth is being called upon, so we are exploring our options. He's intimately familiar with our defense and scheme so it makes sense for us to call on him. I don't think the Hawks are expecting him to come in and start....they are calling him in hopes for more depth.

That makes more sense as to why they're pulling from the bullpen of available players. Having been with the squad before helps a ton.

exile 11-25-2013 06:01 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ChromeSeahwk (Post 553159)
Antoine Winfield was on our squad in training camp and had been expected to start. He was still effective with the Vikings last year. He was cut because he couldn't compete with the depth that the Seahawks had available. Now some of that depth is being called upon, so we are exploring our options. He's intimately familiar with our defense and scheme so it makes sense for us to call on him. I don't think the Hawks are expecting him to come in and start....they are calling him in hopes for more depth.

Plus Browner was just dinged for PEDs again. Ouch.

ChromeSeahwk 11-25-2013 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by exile (Post 553180)
Plus Browner was just dinged for PEDs again. Ouch.

FWIW, Brandon Browner just reported via twitter:
"I'm not facing suspension for PEDs, it's sad that the NFL is reporting this..."

Having said that, he wasn't going to be playing anyway due to injury. Will be interesting to hear what comes of this though.....As a Hawks fan, I hate the "Sea-adderall" label, so if this is true, he's dead to us as far as I'm concerned.

Seahawks12th 11-25-2013 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by exile (Post 553180)
Plus Browner was just dinged for PEDs again. Ouch.

The story is false. Brandon Browner's agent text John Clayton and told him so..

Seahawks12th 11-25-2013 06:18 PM

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Jason La Canfora ‏@JasonLaCanfora 1m
Spoke to a source with knowledge of Brandon Browner's status who said he did not have another positive test for PEDs ...

Danno 11-25-2013 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Seahawks12th (Post 553185)
Jason La Canfora ‏@JasonLaCanfora 1m
Spoke to a source with knowledge of Brandon Browner's status who said he did not have another positive test for PEDs ...

Shhhh, I heard it was actually next week.

Seahawks12th 11-25-2013 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 553187)
Shhhh, I heard it was actually next week.

It was reported by Mike Silver (A huge 49er fan and apologist). He's a clown and is a disgrace to journalism..

exile 11-25-2013 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Seahawks12th (Post 553190)
It was reported by Mike Silver (A huge 49er fan and apologist). He's a clown and is a disgrace to journalism..

Fun. NFLN is running with it now. They say Seattle is "moving on" without Browner. In other words, he's done in a Seahawks uni. Who to believe?

Seahawks12th 11-25-2013 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by exile (Post 553191)
Fun. NFLN is running with it now. They say Seattle is "moving on" without Browner. In other words, he's done in a Seahawks uni. Who to believe?

I hope Browner sues the crap out of Silver!!


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