Brees' Downfield Passing vs Seattle Pass Defense

onanygivenSu · 11-26-2013, 01:57 PM

The key to the game, imo, will be which team can run the ball effectively against the other.

Both teams have excellent passing QBs and multiple weapons in the passing game.

Seattle relies on their run game to set up their relatively-speaking seldom-used passing game. Thus far this year, Seattle runs the ball 55.6% of the time.

By comparison, the Saints run the ball only 38.7% of the time... and passes the ball 61.3% of the time. That's a lot.

Another key to the game will be whether Seattle's linebackers can quickly close on the ball when the Saints are in the short passing game attack mode. Wright, Wagner and Irvin are all fast and have been very effective in closing down on opponents' receivers in the short passing game, particularly at home.

Should be a fantastic game to watch. I'm stoked!!

I should add that when Drew does go down-field, Seattle has likely the fastest-closing FS in the league in Earl Thomas to be aware of.

AliJee · 11-26-2013, 02:25 PM

Originally Posted by dueceloose

I like the fact we can attack them so many ways. I'd rather us control clock and force them to abandon the run game. Anyone else see us playing Seattle like we did sf forcing them to beat us thru the air.

If Sean treats this like the SB/Conference I see this going well.

Onside kick for the win!

Forcing them to beat us through the air would be weather dependant IMO, if the weather is rainy and windy I can see that happening. The difference here is Wilson can actually make throws when compared to a shaky confidence lacking Kap in our house.

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SmashMouth · 11-26-2013, 03:55 PM

Originally Posted by onanygivenSu

The key to the game, imo, will be which team can run the ball effectively against the other.

Both teams have excellent passing QBs and multiple weapons in the passing game.

Seattle relies on their run game to set up their relatively-speaking seldom-used passing game. Thus far this year, Seattle runs the ball 55.6% of the time.

By comparison, the Saints run the ball only 38.7% of the time... and passes the ball 61.3% of the time. That's a lot.

Another key to the game will be whether Seattle's linebackers can quickly close on the ball when the Saints are in the short passing game attack mode. Wright, Wagner and Irvin are all fast and have been very effective in closing down on opponents' receivers in the short passing game, particularly at home.

Should be a fantastic game to watch. I'm stoked!!

I should add that when Drew does go down-field, Seattle has likely the fastest-closing FS in the league in Earl Thomas to be aware of.

Like the Joe Montana led Niners, we use the pass as a run play. It has the very same efficacy or better sometimes. But we have more than one back from which to choose. Lynch is good, but I doubt he replicates his production from the last time these teams faced each other.

onanygivenSu · 11-26-2013, 04:22 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Like the Joe Montana led Niners, we use the pass as a run play. It has the very same efficacy or better sometimes. But we have more than one back from which to choose.

I agree. The key will be whether Seattle LBs can close quickly and stifle that tactic. We'll see.

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Lynch is good, but I doubt he replicates his production from the last time these teams faced each other.

You know, if you subtract out the 67-yard Beast Quake run, the Saints limited Lynch to just 64 yards on 18 carries for a 3.6 yd/attempt average, which is pretty damn good run D.

With the BQ run included, his numbers were 19 carries for 131 yards.

My prediction is Lynch gets somewhere around 85-90 yards total on Monday night... and RW likely gets ~30 himself in scrambles.

AsylumGuido · 11-26-2013, 04:52 PM

Originally Posted by onanygivenSu

I agree. The key will be whether Seattle LBs can close quickly and stifle that tactic. We'll see.

You know, if you subtract out the 67-yard Beast Quake run, the Saints limited Lynch to just 64 yards on 18 carries for a 3.6 yd/attempt average, which is pretty damn good run D.

With the BQ run included, his numbers were 19 carries for 131 yards.

My prediction is Lynch gets somewhere around 85-90 yards total on Monday night... and RW likely gets ~30 himself in scrambles.

We'll see. That what 49ers fans thought, to0, and they only managed a total of 81 yards rushing for the game.

CoreyO · 11-26-2013, 04:54 PM

I think our biggest problem is special teams, if its not missed FGs its muffed punts. Clean it up and we wont struggle as much to win games

hagan714 · 11-26-2013, 05:10 PM

Seattle has to set the pass up with run. like its been pointed out we do the opposite for the most part

stop Lynch well limit him, no one stops him and you have a great chance at winning the game.

they have to stop drew. suspensions in place? lol good luck

AlaskaSaints · 11-26-2013, 05:28 PM

First play from scrimmage should be a 45-yard gain.

Pick a receiver.

Alaska

Danno · 11-26-2013, 05:29 PM

Originally Posted by AlaskaSaints

First play from scrimmage should be a 45-yard gain.

Pick a receiver.

Alaska

Golden Tate?

skymike · 11-26-2013, 06:03 PM

Originally Posted by Halo

The muffs, flubbs, blunders, drops etc. must end or making it to the playoffs is only an extra couple games.

and thats assuming we have any kind of playoff seed. First we have to beat Seattle
and Carolina twice. Then, I'll put on my Division crown.

Im seeing an inordinate amount of cockiness on the board lately, which I think
is really whistling in the graveyard. This is America, so guys, feel free to talk chit, and then have to eat it tuesday morning, (or dec 9 or dec 23) in the event our crowns are premature. I wont stop you.

But I see a very tough series of tests for us, with possibly the best team in the League next week. Not only do I like to be realistic, but if we do happen to light up the rest of this schedule, I think we should truly appreciate the magnitude of this team's accomplishment. Think of the night we beat the Patriots 40 something to 17, and kept our streak. You didnt KNOW we could
really be them. It was amazing when we did, and the uncertainty made it much better.

I like being loud and proud, and raising hell in the Dome. But humility serves us well also.

11-26-2013, 01:57 PM	#21
onanygivenSu Registered Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: In the moment Posts: 44	Re: Brees' Downfield Passing vs Seattle Pass Defense The key to the game, imo, will be which team can run the ball effectively against the other. Both teams have excellent passing QBs and multiple weapons in the passing game. Seattle relies on their run game to set up their relatively-speaking seldom-used passing game. Thus far this year, Seattle runs the ball 55.6% of the time. By comparison, the Saints run the ball only 38.7% of the time... and passes the ball 61.3% of the time. That's a lot. Another key to the game will be whether Seattle's linebackers can quickly close on the ball when the Saints are in the short passing game attack mode. Wright, Wagner and Irvin are all fast and have been very effective in closing down on opponents' receivers in the short passing game, particularly at home. Should be a fantastic game to watch. I'm stoked!! I should add that when Drew does go down-field, Seattle has likely the fastest-closing FS in the league in Earl Thomas to be aware of.

11-26-2013, 02:25 PM	#22
AliJee 100th Post Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Southern California Posts: 267	Re: Brees' Downfield Passing vs Seattle Pass Defense Originally Posted by dueceloose I like the fact we can attack them so many ways. I'd rather us control clock and force them to abandon the run game. Anyone else see us playing Seattle like we did sf forcing them to beat us thru the air. If Sean treats this like the SB/Conference I see this going well. Onside kick for the win! Forcing them to beat us through the air would be weather dependant IMO, if the weather is rainy and windy I can see that happening. The difference here is Wilson can actually make throws when compared to a shaky confidence lacking Kap in our house. Sent from my SM-N900V using Tapatalk

11-26-2013, 03:55 PM	#23
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 36,958 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Brees' Downfield Passing vs Seattle Pass Defense Originally Posted by onanygivenSu The key to the game, imo, will be which team can run the ball effectively against the other. Both teams have excellent passing QBs and multiple weapons in the passing game. Seattle relies on their run game to set up their relatively-speaking seldom-used passing game. Thus far this year, Seattle runs the ball 55.6% of the time. By comparison, the Saints run the ball only 38.7% of the time... and passes the ball 61.3% of the time. That's a lot. Another key to the game will be whether Seattle's linebackers can quickly close on the ball when the Saints are in the short passing game attack mode. Wright, Wagner and Irvin are all fast and have been very effective in closing down on opponents' receivers in the short passing game, particularly at home. Should be a fantastic game to watch. I'm stoked!! I should add that when Drew does go down-field, Seattle has likely the fastest-closing FS in the league in Earl Thomas to be aware of. Like the Joe Montana led Niners, we use the pass as a run play. It has the very same efficacy or better sometimes. But we have more than one back from which to choose. Lynch is good, but I doubt he replicates his production from the last time these teams faced each other.

11-26-2013, 04:22 PM	#24
onanygivenSu Registered Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: In the moment Posts: 44	Re: Brees' Downfield Passing vs Seattle Pass Defense Originally Posted by SmashMouth Like the Joe Montana led Niners, we use the pass as a run play. It has the very same efficacy or better sometimes. But we have more than one back from which to choose. I agree. The key will be whether Seattle LBs can close quickly and stifle that tactic. We'll see. Originally Posted by SmashMouth Lynch is good, but I doubt he replicates his production from the last time these teams faced each other. You know, if you subtract out the 67-yard Beast Quake run, the Saints limited Lynch to just 64 yards on 18 carries for a 3.6 yd/attempt average, which is pretty damn good run D. With the BQ run included, his numbers were 19 carries for 131 yards. My prediction is Lynch gets somewhere around 85-90 yards total on Monday night... and RW likely gets ~30 himself in scrambles.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,391	Re: Brees' Downfield Passing vs Seattle Pass Defense Originally Posted by onanygivenSu I agree. The key will be whether Seattle LBs can close quickly and stifle that tactic. We'll see. You know, if you subtract out the 67-yard Beast Quake run, the Saints limited Lynch to just 64 yards on 18 carries for a 3.6 yd/attempt average, which is pretty damn good run D. With the BQ run included, his numbers were 19 carries for 131 yards. My prediction is Lynch gets somewhere around 85-90 yards total on Monday night... and RW likely gets ~30 himself in scrambles. We'll see. That what 49ers fans thought, to0, and they only managed a total of 81 yards rushing for the game.

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