PFF: Fewest Missed Tackles in NFL: Saints!

Jack Vegas · 11-26-2013, 04:10 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

The myth that we had no talent on defense. (see the 2013 defense)

Yes, even last year when they were the worst defense in the league, they still had plenty of talent. Lofton/Hawthorne were great signings, they didn't suddenly become bad players. Galette had always shown a ton of talent as a pass rusher, Hicks and Jordan were flashing big-time potential, etc.

You could point to Vaccaro and Lewis in the secondary as the players that put them over the top and really made it solid, but I would argue that even without those guys this would still be a pretty decent group.

Blows my mind how incompetent Spagnuolo turned out to be, although I guess in hindsight it shouldn't have been when you see the debacle he led the Rams into. That guy is like Jim Haslett 2.0.

UK_WhoDat · 11-26-2013, 04:17 PM

MASSIVE!

D_it_up · 11-26-2013, 04:23 PM

Originally Posted by Jack Vegas

You could point to Vaccaro and Lewis in the secondary as the players that put them over the top and really made it solid, but I would argue that even without those guys this would still be a pretty decent group.

Maybe, but I think Lewis has become the best free agent signing we've had since Drew Brees. At least by his play this season. He's been the shutdown corner that we have been looking for this team for ages. I can see why Steelers' fans were pissed when they lost him.

Marching · 11-26-2013, 04:35 PM

Originally Posted by Jack Vegas

Yes, even last year when they were the worst defense in the league, they still had plenty of talent. Lofton/Hawthorne were great signings, they didn't suddenly become bad players. Galette had always shown a ton of talent as a pass rusher, Hicks and Jordan were flashing big-time potential, etc.

You could point to Vaccaro and Lewis in the secondary as the players that put them over the top and really made it solid, but I would argue that even without those guys this would still be a pretty decent group.

Blows my mind how incompetent Spagnuolo turned out to be, although I guess in hindsight it shouldn't have been when you see the debacle he led the Rams into. That guy is like Jim Haslett 2.0.

I really thought the Spags hire would turn out great. He obviously wasn't a good HC, but he was a very good DC with the Giants if I remember correctly.

UK_WhoDat · 11-26-2013, 04:55 PM

Originally Posted by Marching

I really thought the Spags hire would turn out great. He obviously wasn't a good HC, but he was a very good DC with the Giants if I remember correctly.

I agree

hagan714 · 11-26-2013, 05:06 PM

as much as i hate stats like this with out seeing the definitions used i have to agree that this area of the game has improved big time

Danno · 11-26-2013, 05:32 PM

Originally Posted by hagan714

as much as i hate stats like this with out seeing the definitions used i have to agree that this area of the game has improved big time

I agree. Most of the PFF stuff we read isn't qualified with a basis.

But this particular stat uses the same definitions it used last year when we were one of the worst, if not the worst, in the NFL.

hagan714 · 11-27-2013, 10:10 AM

as long as i do not see lynch run us over monday night he did last time then i am happy.

i hope the defense is forced to watch that over and over again and in between viewing they get pie thrown in there face. that was one of the all time worse plays i have ever seen from a saints defense. i have seen them all and that was top 10 crap right there.

like any of the really good backs in the nfl you really do expect to stop them completely but limit the impact they have. so far the saints have done a great job. well except the turd they laid in the meadow lands.

limit and keep lynches impact in this next game and i will say A

the plus i save for season end

xan · 11-27-2013, 10:46 AM

history is not a good indicator of the future, though it is directional. I'd like to see what happens in the wind, rain and cold of Seattle. Then hopefully in the snow, wind and cold of the Meadowlands.

dueceloose · 11-27-2013, 11:30 AM

Hopefully the nezt progression is gettin fumbles/turnovers from those tackles.

11-26-2013, 04:10 PM	#11
Jack Vegas 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 2,254	Re: PFF: Fewest Missed Tackles in NFL: Saints! Originally Posted by Danno The myth that we had no talent on defense. (see the 2013 defense) Yes, even last year when they were the worst defense in the league, they still had plenty of talent. Lofton/Hawthorne were great signings, they didn't suddenly become bad players. Galette had always shown a ton of talent as a pass rusher, Hicks and Jordan were flashing big-time potential, etc. You could point to Vaccaro and Lewis in the secondary as the players that put them over the top and really made it solid, but I would argue that even without those guys this would still be a pretty decent group. Blows my mind how incompetent Spagnuolo turned out to be, although I guess in hindsight it shouldn't have been when you see the debacle he led the Rams into. That guy is like Jim Haslett 2.0.
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11-26-2013, 04:17 PM	#12
UK_WhoDat 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Wherever I lay my hat Posts: 3,824	Re: PFF: Fewest Missed Tackles in NFL: Saints! MASSIVE!

11-26-2013, 04:23 PM	#13
D_it_up Faqda Falcons Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ruston, Louisiana Posts: 3,465 Blog Entries: 3	Re: PFF: Fewest Missed Tackles in NFL: Saints! Originally Posted by Jack Vegas You could point to Vaccaro and Lewis in the secondary as the players that put them over the top and really made it solid, but I would argue that even without those guys this would still be a pretty decent group. Maybe, but I think Lewis has become the best free agent signing we've had since Drew Brees. At least by his play this season. He's been the shutdown corner that we have been looking for this team for ages. I can see why Steelers' fans were pissed when they lost him.

11-26-2013, 04:35 PM	#14
Marching Registered Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 53	Re: PFF: Fewest Missed Tackles in NFL: Saints! Originally Posted by Jack Vegas Yes, even last year when they were the worst defense in the league, they still had plenty of talent. Lofton/Hawthorne were great signings, they didn't suddenly become bad players. Galette had always shown a ton of talent as a pass rusher, Hicks and Jordan were flashing big-time potential, etc. You could point to Vaccaro and Lewis in the secondary as the players that put them over the top and really made it solid, but I would argue that even without those guys this would still be a pretty decent group. Blows my mind how incompetent Spagnuolo turned out to be, although I guess in hindsight it shouldn't have been when you see the debacle he led the Rams into. That guy is like Jim Haslett 2.0. I really thought the Spags hire would turn out great. He obviously wasn't a good HC, but he was a very good DC with the Giants if I remember correctly. UK_WhoDat likes this.
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11-26-2013, 04:55 PM	#15
UK_WhoDat 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Wherever I lay my hat Posts: 3,824	Re: PFF: Fewest Missed Tackles in NFL: Saints! Originally Posted by Marching I really thought the Spags hire would turn out great. He obviously wasn't a good HC, but he was a very good DC with the Giants if I remember correctly. I agree

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Danno Site Donor 2014 Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,640	Re: PFF: Fewest Missed Tackles in NFL: Saints! Originally Posted by hagan714 as much as i hate stats like this with out seeing the definitions used i have to agree that this area of the game has improved big time I agree. Most of the PFF stuff we read isn't qualified with a basis. But this particular stat uses the same definitions it used last year when we were one of the worst, if not the worst, in the NFL. hagan714 likes this.

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hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: PFF: Fewest Missed Tackles in NFL: Saints! as long as i do not see lynch run us over monday night he did last time then i am happy. i hope the defense is forced to watch that over and over again and in between viewing they get pie thrown in there face. that was one of the all time worse plays i have ever seen from a saints defense. i have seen them all and that was top 10 crap right there. like any of the really good backs in the nfl you really do expect to stop them completely but limit the impact they have. so far the saints have done a great job. well except the turd they laid in the meadow lands. limit and keep lynches impact in this next game and i will say A the plus i save for season end
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