Cold and snow Monday

ScottF · 11-29-2013, 01:00 PM

Originally Posted by Michigan_SF

hmmm... reading between the lines here... Is it:

A) the MNF game has been moved to Indiana because the DEA has commandeered CenturyLink to use to drug test every Seattleite for PED's

or

B) It snows often at Purdue Univ, where number 9 broke many records before he moved to sunny Socal and then brought his show indoors. Henceforth and therefore, Brees will be fine Monday
?

Michigan_SF · 11-29-2013, 01:13 PM

I'd run with option B

FeelTheBrees · 11-29-2013, 01:34 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

Uh yea. I don't know what qb you have been watching for the past 6 years. He CAN and does go deep sometimes but most throws are for less than 10-12 yds. What the back or receiver does with it after is a different story.

Well instead of just making stuff up, let's look at some actual stats:

Quarterback Air Yards - 2013 - NFL Season Statistics

The stat here is "quarterback air yards" which is defined as "the total distance that a football is thrown beyond the line of scrimmage to the point of reception. Air yards is calculated by taking total passing yards and subtracting Yards After the Catch (YAC)."

Drew is obviously near the top every year in total air yards because he throws for a ton of yards, thus resulting in a lot of total air yards. I think the more relevant stat for this debate is "air yards per attempt", which will show how far the QB throws it per attempt, minus the YAC.

The #1 overall QB for this year is just over 5 yards...so your estimate of "10-12 yards" (what you thought was a small number) is actually more than double the league leader. I agree that 10-12 yards seems mediocre at best, but the numbers don't lie. Just over 5 yards LEADS THE LEAGUE. Remember, we are subtracting the YAC, as you even stated that "what the back or receiver does with it after is a different story."

Drew Brees is #9 overall for this year with 4.19. He has finished in the top ten 4 of the last 6 years, and was #2 overall in 2009. I think it's safe to say he does NOT "mostly throw short stuff", which was the comment I had originally refuted from the Seachicken fan, and also what you tried to refute me on to agree with the Seachicken fan, that Brees does in fact throw a lot of short passes. Well, I think I've made it clear that is not the case when you compare Drew relative to the rest of the QBs in the league (there is nothing else to compare it to...no not the weather). So you were right about one thing, we have obviously been watching different QBs over the past 6 years.

Cheers.

73Saint · 11-29-2013, 02:04 PM

Guess we will see Monday. I can't wait, it will be a great test for all 3 phases of our team (O, D, STs). We have a chance to win, but can't do anything to shoot ourselves in the foot.

-Cap't Obvious

Danno · 11-29-2013, 02:31 PM

Originally Posted by FeelTheBrees

Well instead of just making stuff up, let's look at some actual stats:

Quarterback Air Yards - 2013 - NFL Season Statistics

The stat here is "quarterback air yards" which is defined as "the total distance that a football is thrown beyond the line of scrimmage to the point of reception. Air yards is calculated by taking total passing yards and subtracting Yards After the Catch (YAC)."

Drew is obviously near the top every year in total air yards because he throws for a ton of yards, thus resulting in a lot of total air yards. I think the more relevant stat for this debate is "air yards per attempt", which will show how far the QB throws it per attempt, minus the YAC.

The #1 overall QB for this year is just over 5 yards...so your estimate of "10-12 yards" (what you thought was a small number) is actually more than double the league leader. I agree that 10-12 yards seems mediocre at best, but the numbers don't lie. Just over 5 yards LEADS THE LEAGUE. Remember, we are subtracting the YAC, as you even stated that "what the back or receiver does with it after is a different story."

Drew Brees is #9 overall for this year with 4.19. He has finished in the top ten 4 of the last 6 years, and was #2 overall in 2009. I think it's safe to say he does NOT "mostly throw short stuff", which was the comment I had originally refuted from the Seachicken fan, and also what you tried to refute me on to agree with the Seachicken fan, that Brees does in fact throw a lot of short passes. Well, I think I've made it clear that is not the case when you compare Drew relative to the rest of the QBs in the league (there is nothing else to compare it to...no not the weather). So you were right about one thing, we have obviously been watching different QBs over the past 6 years.

Cheers.

Good stuff. Reminds me of when some claimed Drew didn't throw the deep pass well, and stats showed he was #1 in the entire league in deep ball accuracy.

SaintSproles · 11-29-2013, 03:56 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Good stuff. Reminds me of when some claimed Drew didn't throw the deep pass well, and stats showed he was #1 in the entire league in deep ball accuracy.

You know who doesn't throw the deep ball well? Peyton Manning. You never see him airing it out deep. The big plays they have had this season have come off of a lot of bubble screens, or broken plays on short passes towards the sidelines and busted coverage.

I don't think anyone has thrown the deep ball better than Drew Brees since becoming a Saint in 2006.

westbankdaze · 11-29-2013, 06:12 PM

This game will become legend. Mark my words.

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TheOak · 11-30-2013, 06:34 AM

Snow Gone

It's not who runs better. I am a Saints fan through and through, but there is no question of who can run better.

The question is can we do to Lynch what we have done to other great RBs this season.

hagan714 · 11-30-2013, 09:35 AM

i am sticking with

Mostly cloudy rain tapper off by game time

Temp about 40 to 45 degrees

slight gusty wind conditions nothing really major

no fog in the forecast either

with a low around 31.

AlaskaSaints · 11-30-2013, 11:54 AM

Those are miserable conditions for players and for fans.
There will be dropped balls and lots of lost traction.

Ugh…

Just win BIG.

Alaska

11-29-2013, 01:00 PM	#21
ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	Re: Cold and snow Monday Originally Posted by Michigan_SF hmmm... reading between the lines here... Is it: A) the MNF game has been moved to Indiana because the DEA has commandeered CenturyLink to use to drug test every Seattleite for PED's or B) It snows often at Purdue Univ, where number 9 broke many records before he moved to sunny Socal and then brought his show indoors. Henceforth and therefore, Brees will be fine Monday ? SloMotion likes this.

11-29-2013, 01:13 PM	#22
Michigan_SF 100th Post Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 407	Re: Cold and snow Monday I'd run with option B hagan714 and 73Saint like this.
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11-29-2013, 01:34 PM	#23
FeelTheBrees Registered Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 60	Re: Cold and snow Monday Originally Posted by The Dude Uh yea. I don't know what qb you have been watching for the past 6 years. He CAN and does go deep sometimes but most throws are for less than 10-12 yds. What the back or receiver does with it after is a different story. Well instead of just making stuff up, let's look at some actual stats: Quarterback Air Yards - 2013 - NFL Season Statistics The stat here is "quarterback air yards" which is defined as "the total distance that a football is thrown beyond the line of scrimmage to the point of reception. Air yards is calculated by taking total passing yards and subtracting Yards After the Catch (YAC)." Drew is obviously near the top every year in total air yards because he throws for a ton of yards, thus resulting in a lot of total air yards. I think the more relevant stat for this debate is "air yards per attempt", which will show how far the QB throws it per attempt, minus the YAC. The #1 overall QB for this year is just over 5 yards...so your estimate of "10-12 yards" (what you thought was a small number) is actually more than double the league leader. I agree that 10-12 yards seems mediocre at best, but the numbers don't lie. Just over 5 yards LEADS THE LEAGUE. Remember, we are subtracting the YAC, as you even stated that "what the back or receiver does with it after is a different story." Drew Brees is #9 overall for this year with 4.19. He has finished in the top ten 4 of the last 6 years, and was #2 overall in 2009. I think it's safe to say he does NOT "mostly throw short stuff", which was the comment I had originally refuted from the Seachicken fan, and also what you tried to refute me on to agree with the Seachicken fan, that Brees does in fact throw a lot of short passes. Well, I think I've made it clear that is not the case when you compare Drew relative to the rest of the QBs in the league (there is nothing else to compare it to...no not the weather). So you were right about one thing, we have obviously been watching different QBs over the past 6 years. Cheers. Danno, pumpkindriver and saintsfan1976 like this.
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11-29-2013, 02:04 PM	#24
73Saint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: NOLA Posts: 2,336	Re: Cold and snow Monday Guess we will see Monday. I can't wait, it will be a great test for all 3 phases of our team (O, D, STs). We have a chance to win, but can't do anything to shoot ourselves in the foot. -Cap't Obvious

11-29-2013, 02:31 PM	#25
Danno Site Donor 2014 Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,640	Re: Cold and snow Monday Originally Posted by FeelTheBrees Well instead of just making stuff up, let's look at some actual stats: Quarterback Air Yards - 2013 - NFL Season Statistics The stat here is "quarterback air yards" which is defined as "the total distance that a football is thrown beyond the line of scrimmage to the point of reception. Air yards is calculated by taking total passing yards and subtracting Yards After the Catch (YAC)." Drew is obviously near the top every year in total air yards because he throws for a ton of yards, thus resulting in a lot of total air yards. I think the more relevant stat for this debate is "air yards per attempt", which will show how far the QB throws it per attempt, minus the YAC. The #1 overall QB for this year is just over 5 yards...so your estimate of "10-12 yards" (what you thought was a small number) is actually more than double the league leader. I agree that 10-12 yards seems mediocre at best, but the numbers don't lie. Just over 5 yards LEADS THE LEAGUE. Remember, we are subtracting the YAC, as you even stated that "what the back or receiver does with it after is a different story." Drew Brees is #9 overall for this year with 4.19. He has finished in the top ten 4 of the last 6 years, and was #2 overall in 2009. I think it's safe to say he does NOT "mostly throw short stuff", which was the comment I had originally refuted from the Seachicken fan, and also what you tried to refute me on to agree with the Seachicken fan, that Brees does in fact throw a lot of short passes. Well, I think I've made it clear that is not the case when you compare Drew relative to the rest of the QBs in the league (there is nothing else to compare it to...no not the weather). So you were right about one thing, we have obviously been watching different QBs over the past 6 years. Cheers. Good stuff. Reminds me of when some claimed Drew didn't throw the deep pass well, and stats showed he was #1 in the entire league in deep ball accuracy. hagan714 and FeelTheBrees like this.

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11-29-2013, 03:56 PM	#26
SaintSproles Site Donor Drew Brees GOAT Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 342 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Cold and snow Monday Originally Posted by Danno Good stuff. Reminds me of when some claimed Drew didn't throw the deep pass well, and stats showed he was #1 in the entire league in deep ball accuracy. You know who doesn't throw the deep ball well? Peyton Manning. You never see him airing it out deep. The big plays they have had this season have come off of a lot of bubble screens, or broken plays on short passes towards the sidelines and busted coverage. I don't think anyone has thrown the deep ball better than Drew Brees since becoming a Saint in 2006. FeelTheBrees likes this.

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11-30-2013, 06:34 AM	#28
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 18,978	Re: Cold and snow Monday Snow Gone It's not who runs better. I am a Saints fan through and through, but there is no question of who can run better. The question is can we do to Lynch what we have done to other great RBs this season.

11-30-2013, 09:35 AM	#29
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Cold and snow Monday i am sticking with Mostly cloudy rain tapper off by game time Temp about 40 to 45 degrees slight gusty wind conditions nothing really major no fog in the forecast either with a low around 31.

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AlaskaSaints 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Anchorage, AK Posts: 2,484 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Cold and snow Monday Those are miserable conditions for players and for fans. There will be dropped balls and lots of lost traction. Ugh… Just win BIG. Alaska

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