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The Dude 11-28-2013 08:35 PM

Should we make a play for Michael Orr?
 
Im watching the late game and heard Orr is in a contract year and some speculate he will not be re-signed with the Ravens. As much as he has been hit and pressured this year I have a feeling he is going to restructure or take a pay cut to buy himself some protection. Orr is solid and servicable and can play both sides.
We need some immediete impact players on our Oline. Im all for drafting, but we need someone who can step right in.

Schmohams 11-28-2013 09:06 PM

Re: Should we make a play for Michael Orr?
 
Oher is a good RT, I wouldn't be against it. But if I could bring back anyone to help the O-Line it would be Kromer

rezburna 11-28-2013 10:35 PM

Re: Should we make a play for Michael Orr?
 
Oher >>> Strief

jeanpierre 11-28-2013 10:45 PM

Re: Should we make a play for Michael Orr?
 
We won't be adding any free agents this season; we've got Graham et al to re-up...

And if we win the whole thing...

|Mitch| 11-28-2013 10:55 PM

Re: Should we make a play for Michael Orr?
 
I doubt we could afford him, some team will over-pay for his services. We can't afford a bidding war

AliJee 11-29-2013 02:13 AM

Re: Should we make a play for Michael Orr?
 
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Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 554106)
I doubt we could afford him, some team will over-pay for his services. We can't afford a bidding war

Exactly my thoughts, we really won't be able to afford him, I see us drafting an OT though

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SmashMouth 11-29-2013 03:52 AM

Re: Should we make a play for Michael Orr?
 
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Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 554106)
I doubt we could afford him, some team will over-pay for his services. We can't afford a bidding war

Nor should we...

Halo 11-29-2013 04:16 AM

Re: Should we make a play for Michael Orr?
 
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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 554119)
Nor should we...

Dude, mom's gonna be pissed. Go to bed!

hagan714 11-29-2013 09:05 AM

Re: Should we make a play for Michael Orr?
 
i really do think there will be a bidding war for Orr or any of the OT again this year. I think the league as come to a salary balance at the position ie RT. besides we are talking a player that has a bunch of pro bowls to bring in. maybe he would love to come back down to the south.

thumbs up as a RT.

Danno 11-29-2013 09:09 AM

Re: Should we make a play for Michael Orr?
 
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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 554102)
Oher >>> Strief

Agreed, but not enough to justify signing Oher. I'd rather spend that kind of cash at LT or even OC.

the-commish 11-29-2013 09:59 AM

Re: Should we make a play for Michael Orr?
 
I agree the Ravens are probably going to let Oher walk; but I don't think we will get him.

Maybe we can do another "The Blind Side" movie about Charles Brown? And get Sandra Bullock to star in it?

Ah... too much to ask!
:argue:

rezburna 11-29-2013 10:09 AM

Re: Should we make a play for Michael Orr?
 
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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 554141)
Agreed, but not enough to justify signing Oher. I'd rather spend that kind of cash at LT or even OC.

agreed

blackangold 11-29-2013 05:23 PM

Re: Should we make a play for Michael Orr?
 
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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 554102)
Oher >>> Strief

No..

Strief is surprisingly the number 1 pass blocking tackle according to PFF, he is no slouch in the run game either. Add that to the huge contract you have to pay for Oher and Ill take Strief all day every day.

The Saints don't spend money on Tackles, big contracts go to guards and centers, so if we are looking to improve the OL we need a good FA center; DLP has been the weak link this year IMO.

ChrisXVI 11-29-2013 06:49 PM

Re: Should we make a play for Michael Orr?
 
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Originally Posted by blackangold (Post 554222)
No..

Strief is surprisingly the number 1 pass blocking tackle according to PFF, he is no slouch in the run game either. Add that to the huge contract you have to pay for Oher and Ill take Strief all day every day.

The Saints don't spend money on Tackles, big contracts go to guards and centers, so if we are looking to improve the OL we need a good FA center; DLP has been the weak link this year IMO.

Yeah... I was thinking the same thing. Oher has been pretty mediocre for a while.

dizzle88 11-30-2013 08:00 AM

Re: Should we make a play for Michael Orr?
 
Why are people in a rush to get rid of strief, he's the highest rated pass blocker in the NFL

hagan714 11-30-2013 09:25 AM

Re: Should we make a play for Michael Orr?
 
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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 554308)
Why are people in a rush to get rid of strief, he's the highest rated pass blocker in the NFL


i am not in a rush at all. all i can say is i wish he was 25 again. it is time to groom a replacement, a real replacement not some i woulda coulda UDFA.

if you get a player like Orr you have extended Striefs playing time by a few years. some where down the road he will go back to a back up. i would love to milk another say 5 years out him at this stage of his career than drive him into the dirt in 3

Rugby Saint II 11-30-2013 02:25 PM

Re: Should we make a play for Michael Orr?
 
Strief is the surprise of the season for me. dlp needs to get it together or be replaced.

Schmohams 11-30-2013 03:30 PM

Re: Should we make a play for Michael Orr?
 
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Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 554316)
i am not in a rush at all. all i can say is i wish he was 25 again. it is time to groom a replacement, a real replacement not some i woulda coulda UDFA.

Strief was picked in the 7th round, practically an UDFA.

Danno 11-30-2013 07:03 PM

Re: Should we make a play for Michael Orr?
 
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Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 554316)
i am not in a rush at all. all i can say is i wish he was 25 again. it is time to groom a replacement, a real replacement not some i woulda coulda UDFA.

if you get a player like Orr you have extended Striefs playing time by a few years. some where down the road he will go back to a back up. i would love to milk another say 5 years out him at this stage of his career than drive him into the dirt in 3

Strief just turned 30.
O-linemen can easily play into their late 30s.

The Dude 11-30-2013 09:16 PM

Re: Should we make a play for Michael Orr?
 
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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 554308)
Why are people in a rush to get rid of strief, he's the highest rated pass blocker in the NFL

I was thinking of getting him to replace brown. LT is the position he played most in college. He was moved to RT because the Ravens already had LT pretty solid and didn't want to go screwing with the line too much. He has played some at Lt for the Ravens and has done well. I do think he may be a little out of reach financially though. I think Drew knows that he is going to have to restructure enough to get some protection if he ever wants to see a majority of that contract. A little less in the long run is better than nothing in the short run

SloMotion 12-01-2013 06:35 AM

Re: Should we make a play for Michael Orr?
 
Strief reminds me a lot of Jeff Backus, recently retired O/T (DET) ... much maligned, but when you break it down, he's actually doing a pretty good job ... I had heard that Oher hasn't been living up to expectations in Baltimore the past few seasons, but honestly, other than his Disney flick, I haven't done any research on him.

It'd be great, with his ability to play either side, if you could get him, but I'm wondering if he'd pull a 'Carl Nicks' by going to another team and flopping ... just wondering ... I think I'd rather take a chance on the draft then with some of these free-agent O/L. JMO. :mrgreen:.

Danno 12-01-2013 07:39 AM

Re: Should we make a play for Michael Orr?
 
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Originally Posted by SloMotion (Post 554455)
Strief reminds me a lot of Jeff Backus, recently retired O/T (DET) ... much maligned, but when you break it down, he's actually doing a pretty good job ... I had heard that Oher hasn't been living up to expectations in Baltimore the past few seasons, but honestly, other than his Disney flick, I haven't done any research on him.

It'd be great, with his ability to play either side, if you could get him, but I'm wondering if he'd pull a 'Carl Nicks' by going to another team and flopping ... just wondering ... I think I'd rather take a chance on the draft then with some of these free-agent O/L. JMO. :mrgreen:.

He didn't do that well at LT, not bad, but not good. In fact he hasn't been playing well at all for a couple of years now. His pass protection is lacking.

I don't think he'd be much of an upgrade.

Jack Vegas 12-01-2013 07:56 AM

Re: Should we make a play for Michael Orr?
 
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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 554102)
Oher >>> Strief

No. He's not. Oher is an average player who had a movie made about his life. Strief is better by every measure.

If we had drafted Strief in the 3rd or 4th round instead of the 7th people would be talking about him as one of the better right tackles in the league (which he is). He plays at right about the same level as Jon Stinchcomb did, only difference is people were more willing to give Stinchcomb his due credit because he had pedigree.

If you are talking about replacing Brown at left tackle, then go with Armstead - a young, cheap player that you've drafted and developed yourself - instead of signing somebody off another team's junk pile. The Ravens are one of the best run teams in the league, if they are cutting a homegrown player like that you are damn skippy they have a real good reason.

SloMotion 12-01-2013 08:39 AM

Re: Should we make a play for Michael Orr?
 
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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 554459)
He didn't do that well at LT, not bad, but not good. In fact he hasn't been playing well at all for a couple of years now. His pass protection is lacking.

I don't think he'd be much of an upgrade.

Yeah, and I would think LT would be the position the Saints would want to upgrade if they're gonna' spend that kind of money on a O/L.


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