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Old 12-07-2013, 03:03 PM   #11
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Every turd has longevity. As time passes they get harder, turn white, and wait for next summers mower.... Never really going away.


Rez .... You're making Choup look good and random. If we had every a-hole problem child you've said you wish we had our defense would have a 70 man roster by it self. Just because people with identity issues have different personas doesn't mean everyone has a sociopathic social disorder.
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Old 12-07-2013, 06:34 PM   #12
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Did Steve Smith produce? Yes. Has Steve Smith been cancerous to his team? No. Is Steve Smith a team captain? Yes. Steve Smith's personality is conducive to being a good player. Being mean and nasty helps in an aggressive sport. Which is why he's punked out Harper, Jenkins, and Greer every year. Same way Richard Sherman and the Seahawks bullied our offense all night. We could use several Steve Smith's. I don't care if he's a thug on the field, off the field, or in church: Can he play? Is he reliable?

This reminds me of high school. When coaches decide a hard worker deserves to play over the more talented. Or letting the children of the booster club parents play. Only thing that matters in football, is can you play, and will you walk a straight enough path to be able to play consistently. He's done that. And I like him.

And if we had every person who's "thuggish" personality yall hate we'd have more Super Bowls then then the Pats.

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Old 12-07-2013, 06:39 PM   #13
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Just my opinion, but I'm convinced the NFL has been a positive in Steve Smiths life.

Without it, I'm sure he would have died in prison many years ago.
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Originally Posted by rezburna View Post
Did Steve Smith produce? Yes. Has Steve Smith been cancerous to his team? No. Is Steve Smith a team captain? Yes. Steve Smith's personality is conducive to being a good player. Being mean and nasty helps in an aggressive sport. Which is why he's punked out Harper, Jenkins, and Greer every year. Same way Richard Sherman and the Seahawks bullied our offense all night. We could use several Steve Smith's. I don't care if he's a thug on the field, off the field, or in church: Can he play? Is he reliable?

This reminds me of high school. When coaches decide a hard worker deserves to play over the more talented. Or letting the children of the booster club parents play. Only thing that matters in football, is can you play, and will you walk a straight enough path to be able to play consistently. He's done that. And I like him.

And if we had every person who's "thuggish" personality yall hate we'd have more Super Bowls then then the Pats.
You're talking about a guy that has fought and injured his own teammates. That's pretty "cancerous."
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Old 12-08-2013, 09:57 AM   #15
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Originally Posted by rezburna View Post
Did Steve Smith produce? Yes. Has Steve Smith been cancerous to his team? No. Is Steve Smith a team captain? Yes. Steve Smith's personality is conducive to being a good player. Being mean and nasty helps in an aggressive sport. Which is why he's punked out Harper, Jenkins, and Greer every year. Same way Richard Sherman and the Seahawks bullied our offense all night. We could use several Steve Smith's. I don't care if he's a thug on the field, off the field, or in church: Can he play? Is he reliable?

This reminds me of high school. When coaches decide a hard worker deserves to play over the more talented. Or letting the children of the booster club parents play. Only thing that matters in football, is can you play, and will you walk a straight enough path to be able to play consistently. He's done that. And I like him.

And if we had every person who's "thuggish" personality yall hate we'd have more Super Bowls then then the Pats.
Was Hitler, Stalin, or Saddam Hussein their teams leader? Yep

Did the produce for their team? Yep

Were they cancerous to their countries? I have yet to see anyone on their team come out and say that. So far it's been conjecture.... But if no one said it, it didn't happen.

Lastly I will leave you with this.... Hernandez was a pillar of the Patriots in spite of what was known about him. That pillar failed, it hurt the team.

Your comfortable around thugs, I'm comfortable around white CEOs. Not much difference between the two except clothing and color. Don't turn your back on either, it's business.

Did you just directly correlate thugs to Super Bowls? Show me Atlanta, Seattle.... Hell boss, if thugs like Steve Smith bring home so many Super Bowls why does Carolina only have 1 in his 13 years there? That team is full of thugs and bawlers....

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I'm comforatble around Soldiers(past and present), family and Saints/LSU fans (who are pretty much family also).

I have no problem with bullish/nasty players. Hell, I'd would almost take Suh. The only think that stops me is will he get suspended for another head stomp. I like mean and nasty but I think there is a line between mean and nasty and acting like a criminal.

My oldest daughter play High School and competitive travel fastpitch softball. She has played for 5 State Championships and countless National Championships. She has 5 State Championship rings and 1 National Championship ring. She is a mean and nasty player. But only when she has to be. She currently plays for Team Mizuno; (yes, as in MIZUNO. The equipment and appeal company). They represent the Mizuno Company in everything they do, as players. They are expected to act a certain way.

During her career (since age 7 to 17; her current age), we have seen the "hard workers" given starting spots, the "Booster Parents" kids getting starts. However since she has been playing with some of these top notched organizations in the softball world; that crap has stopped. That type of stuff doesn't happen in the Pro's. So I really don't see how those comments fit into this conversation. In all sports, the higher you go, the weak get weeded out.

As I said before; I don't knock Steve Smith on his ability. The guy is a hell of a WR. As much as I can't stand Lance Moore's antics after a first down pick up or a TD, he doesn't act like a thug on and off the field. Smith does. If he didn't have that as a part of his personality, you're darn right I would want him on this team. But more often than not, the below links is what you get with him.

Steve Smith vs. The World - The Triangle Blog - Grantland

Steve Smith, Aqib Talib fight early on Monday Night Football - SBNation.com

Panthers suspend Smith 2 games after fight with teammate Lucas - NFL - ESPN

Fred Smoot would fight Steve Smith if he sees him again, says he's a "weak bully" - Pro Football Zone

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Say what you will about Smith's character and/or behavior,
he's got hands, and a tenacity for the ball that's unmatched once it's in the air.
Our guys will have their hands full AGAIN.
Our guys seem to never look back at the QB.
If Cam is accurate at all, Smith may have a BIG night.
This is not a home-dome auto-win, especially if we start slow, AGAIN.
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I wouldn't piss on him if he was on fire. I might throw some gas on the fire though.
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Smith was limited last night. Harper gave him a couple of "remember me" shots and let him know when he got up from the tackle. I loved it.
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Originally Posted by rezburna View Post
Did Steve Smith produce? Yes. Has Steve Smith been cancerous to his team? No. Is Steve Smith a team captain? Yes. Steve Smith's personality is conducive to being a good player. Being mean and nasty helps in an aggressive sport. Which is why he's punked out Harper, Jenkins, and Greer every year. Same way Richard Sherman and the Seahawks bullied our offense all night. We could use several Steve Smith's. I don't care if he's a thug on the field, off the field, or in church: Can he play? Is he reliable?

This reminds me of high school. When coaches decide a hard worker deserves to play over the more talented. Or letting the children of the booster club parents play. Only thing that matters in football, is can you play, and will you walk a straight enough path to be able to play consistently. He's done that. And I like him.

And if we had every person who's "thuggish" personality yall hate we'd have more Super Bowls then then the Pats.

on the field he is and has always been a punk. at times very fun to watch. as a ball player like i said he is one of the best in the game for years. respect given. off the field i do not know a thing about him so i have no comments.

i stick to the football player not the man
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