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Chandler Catanzaro 3 10.34%
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A new Kicker

this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; I'm ready for Hartley to go. Sure, he's nailed a few big kicks, but 2009 seems like a long time ago, and it's not as if we've been impatient with him. When it comes to kickers, I'd prefer signing a ...

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Old 12-13-2013, 03:10 PM   #31
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Re: A new Kicker

I'm ready for Hartley to go. Sure, he's nailed a few big kicks, but 2009 seems like a long time ago, and it's not as if we've been impatient with him.

When it comes to kickers, I'd prefer signing a veteran. A handful of steady legs hit the FA market every offseason, so you might as well bring in a couple for a camp battle (or have a rookie / veteran camp battle, for that matter).
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Old 12-13-2013, 04:22 PM   #32
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What kind of poll is this? Next you'll ask who our starting QB should be...
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Old 12-13-2013, 08:43 PM   #33
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Hartley misses field goals from the 30-40 yards. In the NFL those should be considered chip ins. We just haven't noticed as of late because he hasn't had to kick as much.
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Old 12-13-2013, 09:59 PM   #34
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Re: A new Kicker

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By "streaky" and "decent", you mean 7th worst in the league?
81% of the kickers in the league being more accurate than he is?
Maybe by streaky pumpkindriver meant that up until week 7 of this season Hartley was 74 of 87 attempts for his career which made him the 7th most accurate kicker in the league.

In the first 6 games this season Hartley went 14 of 16,

then over a 3 game span he went 2 of 6.],

since then he hasn't missed a field goal in the last 4 games, going 5 for 5.

He's missed 6 field goals this season and 4 of them came over a 3 week period. Just my opinion, but that's streaky.

He's dropped from 7th most accurate active kicker to 14th, just me, but that's decent.
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Old 12-14-2013, 06:18 AM   #35
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Re: A new Kicker

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Maybe by streaky pumpkindriver meant that up until week 7 of this season Hartley was 74 of 87 attempts for his career which made him the 7th most accurate kicker in the league.



In the first 6 games this season Hartley went 14 of 16,



then over a 3 game span he went 2 of 6.],



since then he hasn't missed a field goal in the last 4 games, going 5 for 5.



He's missed 6 field goals this season and 4 of them came over a 3 week period. Just my opinion, but that's streaky.



He's dropped from 7th most accurate active kicker to 14th, just me, but that's decent.

His first season is moot, should not be in his average. He was suspended for the Adderall and has never been as accurate.

But you want to look at the big picture and I get that so you and pumpkindriver (assuming his "like" of your reply denotes agreement") should look at the situational stats.

What you have is a dome team that plays more than 1/2 it's games in a dome, but it's kicker is less accurate indoors on turf. Why do you think he is 17% better on the road.

That's fixing an electrical socket with a spoon.

When you are streaky your accuracy is up and down across the board... Hartley is not streaky, I have and can identify where his accuracy issues consistently are... Year in, year out.
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Old 12-15-2013, 08:12 PM   #36
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Re: A new Kicker

I really couldn't care less about next year.
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Old 12-15-2013, 08:26 PM   #37
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You guys still want Hartley as the damn kicker? He missed it from 27 yards, how much worse can you get?
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Old 12-15-2013, 08:36 PM   #38
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Re: A new Kicker

A new kicker is not really on the high priority list for me, O-Line needs a lot of work before we even consider a new kicker
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Old 12-15-2013, 08:37 PM   #39
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Because having a kick blocked is the Kicker's fault... lol

The Saints got dominated on the line in all 3 phases.

As far as Hartley goes, he's average. Nothing special. Not close to being the worst. You guys should check out averages for most kickers in the league.
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Old 12-16-2013, 08:04 AM   #40
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Because having a kick blocked is the Kicker's fault... lol

The Saints got dominated on the line in all 3 phases.

As far as Hartley goes, he's average. Nothing special. Not close to being the worst. You guys should check out averages for most kickers in the league.
You should read the thread.. We have... Its all posted in this thread.

When a defender blocks a kick while it is coming off the kickers foot that is the lines fault. When a kick is blocked going over the line it is the kickers fault.. He kicked it too low.

But you are correct.. he is not last in the league. He is just two away from that dubious honor lol.
2013 NFL Player Kicking Stats - National Football League - ESPN

The catch here is that the two guys below Hartley miss 50+ yarders and Hartley is missing 20-49 yarders.
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