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Before all the "Rams give us fits" comments come my way.. Do you know why?

Since Sean Payton arrived we are 2-2 with the Rams.
Home or Away doesn't matter thats 2-2 also.

In both of our losses Steve Jackon gave us fits.

2011 (31-21 Saints Loss) Steve Jackson went 25-159 6.4 YPC and 2 TDs
No recievers had over 55 yards.
Feeley threw for 145 yards and 1 TD
Boxscore - New Orleans Saints vs. St. Louis Rams, October 30, 2011 - The Football Database

2007 (37-29 Saints Loss)I wont get too deep but again Steve Jackson threw for a TD (yep a 2 yard pass) and ran for a TD.
Bulger threw for 302 yards and 2 TDs
Boxscore - St. Louis Rams vs. New Orleans Saints, November 11, 2007 - The Football Database


In the last 4 meetings Steve Jackson has accounted for at least 100 ttl yards and at least 2 TDs in every game.


Steve Jackson is not there any more, and i do not see that they have a replacement offensive weapon.

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We'll do to them what Arizona just did.

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The Saint's D has improved dramatically against the run. Consider what they did against SF and Seattle. Gore and Lynch were both held to less than 50 yards rushing, averaging 3.7 and 2.8 yds per carry, respectively. I can't see where anyone will beat us with a run game like the Jets did.

So long as the O can move the ball consistently and keep the D off the field....

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All true but the Rams always give us fits.

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Expect the worst and there will be no suprises

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That's no way to live.

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Why... because they are blue? The Rams have always had an aspect that gave us fits and those are not present with this team.

You know which of our last three games would worry me if I were a worrying man?

Tampa Bay - TB has the #1 thing we have the most consistent trouble with Glennon (A rookie QB), and neither Doug Martin or Vincent Jackson are slouches.

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If memory serves, it was the Rams defense that played balls out against us last time. Need the O-line to play like last night.

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We put up 21 in the second 1/2 in 2011... 21 points in this league wins most games.

Steve Jackson had 160 yards, 2 TDs, and a long run of 32 yards. Drew was also having one of those sharing games where he threw 2 INTs, obe of which was a 27 yard Pick 6..

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Rams defensive line has caused the Saints problems in the past. Not worried too much about their offense though. If we play any kind of decent defense we can have this game well in hand by halftime.

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I get that but we have not played them since week 8 of 2011. If they had given us trouble at the start of this season I would hold it more relevant.

Trivia Question:
BTW... Can anyone here guess who the Rams head coach was the last time we played them and their defense gave us trouble?


It wasn't Fisher.. LOL

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Rhetorical question but Steve Spagnoulo... :bng:

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they are like the saints. you want to play them away from home. do not take them lightly

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Worst DC in NFL history, yardage wise?

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Keep Chris Long away from Charles Brown and we should be fine.

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Charles Brown held his own last night against arguably the best front 7 in football...

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they were scrapping for awhile after Bradford went down, but it looks like they have packed it in now
Need to get up early and coast

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If we played them 10 times, they'd win 1 game.

But its that 1 game that worries me.

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Charles Brown played most of that game with a hip flexor that was not discovered until after the game was over. He had almost no lateral movement allowing Long to repeated beat him on the outside. Brown was immediately placed on the IR after that game, remember? The only reason he was playing at all was because Strief was injured. If I remember correctly, Strief returned the very next week.

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Yup and it was very ugly.

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Shut down that young RB and make them try to beat us through the air.

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What I noticed about Cam Newtons tendencies.

If you come at him from both sides you have a 50/50 chance to sack him, he has a tendency to back peddle instead of step up into the pocket.

If you come at him from one side and either a LB or a DE takes an inside route he bolts outside.

If you come from both sides and leave a LB home up the middle he runs backwards for decent lost yardage.

Most of his runs last night were because we didn't leave anyone home up the middle or one side took an inside route and he went to the outside.

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if you're worried about the rams, move to atlanta please.

you'll fit in well there.


be fiercely loyal. that is a sign of character, after all.

y'know... kinda like the stuff brees has.

raise your own standards.

the saints will CRUSH the goats.

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This article says it all:

Three things revisited: Rams-Cardinals - St. Louis Rams Blog - ESPN

Against the Cards, they allowed 100 yards on the ground, their O-line gave up four sacks and Clemens was hurried all day. They are tied for being the 5th most penalized team ... they gave up 105 yards against the 9ers to penalties.

Saying the Rams "always give us fits" doesn't mean anything. Teams are different every year.

They have a running game with Tavon Austin, but he may be playing hurt this week after an ankle injury in the Cards game. A running game which the Cards were able to stifle, btw. I noticed we have been shutting down the running game of a few very good teams lately.

The scariest thing about them is their D is often stout against the run. But, some of you may have noticed that running the ball, except in just a few games, really hasn't been our bread and butter ( but some here continue to hope that will improve ).

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but allowing 100 yards to the Cards doesn't really matter, when the Cards had to run it 28 times to get there(only 3.3 ypc)... We haven't ran the ball more than 20 times a game all season, I don't think...

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A few things to address

Austin is a wr

Zach stacy is a good RB ee need to watch for

The rams are good where it counts. Good o line and great d line. They have an awful QB and poor DBs. This should be a game we win but we cant overlook them as we have in the past.

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Yep....any given sunday....or monday....or thursday....or any other day roger decides to throw in there.

....btw, did you notice that I spelled his name with a lower case r ? Total disrespect:-)

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saw that on his first run on a third down-
we rushed 6, he waited until we over-pursued, and then he took off.
My first thought was 'I thought we were going to be ready for that'. Great adjustment after the first drive

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Me and the Fam will be at that game. Can't freaking wait!!!!

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It's not the Rams that "give us fits" . It's the slow and sloppy start to our own offense that gives us fits. It's not the weapons, or the players the Rams have, that worry me -- I'm worried about the "storyline" of the various Rams games we've lost, which is the same familiar storyline as virtually every other important Saints road loss, whether it's the Bears NFCCG or Seahawks or Ravens or 49ers, or the Pats & Jets and Seahawks games this year. In that scenario, the Saints will come out flat, they'll dig themselves into a big hole of points, mostly due to sloppy play and turnovers, then they rally heroically in the second half to make the game close, but can't pull it out.

I am tired of watching that particular movie over and over. You can't win a road game in the NFL if you only show up for the last 2 or 3 quarters. This is the one scenario where "Finish Strong" just won't cut it, and it happens to the Saints on the road, again and again and again. They need to come out guns blazing, not lay an egg and go 3 and out.

If the Saints get down by 10 or more, in the 1st/2nd quarter on Sunday, it will be a long day for them. Almost every single road loss the Saints have, over the years, fits that pattern of a slow, futzing start, and the other team capitalizes on mistakes while the Saints offense stalls and sits around with their thumb up their collective you know what.

If you start seeing the 3-and-outs, if the Saints get down by 1 or 2 scores early and are -1 or -2 in the turnovers at halftime, this game is all but over. There are a handful of miracle games like Miami in '09 that are exceptions to this rule, but if the Saints go into a funk in the first/second quarter and get too far down at halftime on the road, you can pretty much bet they are out of it, unless the other team is a real sad sack team.

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The Rams forums on the Saints game.

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We will destroy them ...

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I'm with SaintsBro. I don't worry about what the Rams bring, I worry about what the Saints bring, more specifically, I worry about the opening scripted plays. They aren't working, but seem to follow a pattern. These past several games all seem to start off the same, like someone accidentally Xeroxed off just one set of scripts instead of new scripted plays for each game.

We'll win this game, but I'm going to be looking really close at out our opening plays. Either way, we're going to leave that place with at least 2 TDs over the Rams.

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the goats don't stand a chance.

end of story.

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Looks like Roman Harper agrees about the slow starts:

Q: The team has been pretty dominant at home, but 3-3 on the road. With two road games coming up down the stretch, are you anxious to see how the team handles road games going forward?
A: “It’s not so much about being on the road that really causes us problems. It’s the fact that when we don’t have success early, how guys respond and things like that. I think that’s been the biggest, in my perspective from the outside looking in at times because I was injured earlier this year. When we come out and we play fast early, we get off to good starts offensively and defensively, that’s when we’re at our best. We’ve got to try to find a way to, no matter where we’re at location-wise, be able to come out of the locker room and start fast. When we do that, we have success.”

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I said the same thing a few days ago...

I was really glad to see that we overcame the so-so start against Carolina.

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I'm confused, how did we start so slow against the Panthers? We scored a touch-down on our second, third, and fouth drive and held them to two field goals and two punts on their first four drives...

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Their 1st possession they drove down the field, kicked a FG
Then we went 3 and out.
Then they drove the field again, and kicked a FG

I think that was a slow start, we didn't score until the 2nd quarter, then poured it on.

They ran 23 plays to our 8 in the 1st quarter.

Granted it wasn't as bad as the Seattle start, but it was a slow start. Holding them to FG's was crucial in my opinion.

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Incorrect; we scored on our second drive of the first quarter...

Carolina Panthers vs. New Orleans Saints - Drive Chart - December 08, 2013 - ESPN

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Incorrect, We started it in the 1st, and scored in the 2nd.

But regardless, I considered it a so-so start. Its just my opinion, no big deal.