Corey White Progression
 

I liked this guy a lot as a nickel corner. When Greer went down, I knew it was going to take a little while for White to transition to the outside and he was going to go through some growing pains. I think he is finally starting to get it. take a look at this quote from PFF:

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blo...ars-week-14-2/

"He was one of three starting cornerbacks to not allow a reception on Sunday, with a pass breakup and two incompletions coming from the three passes into his coverage. That gave him perfect Yards Per Coverage Snap and Coverage Snaps Per Reception averages of 0.0. The pass breakup came on 1st-and-20 with 14:28 left in the game, with White getting him arm between receiver Ted Ginn and the ball on a hitch route. It all added up to White having the highest graded game of his career, playing at a level the Saints will be hopeful he can maintain down the stretch."

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I like this guy !!

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I like the fact that the Saints have multiple defenders getting good press for a change. We're used to reading great things about the Saints' O. Now with the D getting attention it makes opponents game planning even harder.

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The best way for me to explain my progression of players is to grade them on a Madden scale. So this is my thoughts.

Corey White: (99 being the highest for those who don't know.)

(Beginning) 2013 Season: 74 Overall
(Currently) 2013 Season: 81 Overall
(Prediction) 2014 Season: 90 Overall

I always thought he was great in a man to man coverage. But I also think he's improved a little in zone. He's an excellent tackler, and he's strong. That's why they thought he'd be a great strong safety. He can lay the wood. But his speed, he's fast. I'd give him a 93 or 94 in speed.

Keenan Lewis:
(Beginning) 2013 Season: 87 Overall
(Currently) 2013 Season: 90 Overall
(Prediction) 2014 Season: 91 Overall

He's really coming in to his own. I never see him truly get burned, so either his speed is underrated or he takes good angles as far as cutting of the path of the deep ball.

Malcolm Jenkins:
(Beginning) 2013 Season: 75 Overall
(Currently) 2013 Season: 85 Overall
(Prediction) 2014 Season: 88 Overall

He looks more comfortable with Vacarro and Rob Ryan there. We don't see near as many deep blown coverages. What I like about him being a safety is the fact truthfully, he can still come down and play man to man on receivers and tight ends. It may not be at an elite level for a cornerback, but it is at an elite level for a safety.

Kenny Vacarro:

(Beginning) 2013 Season: 78 Overall
(Currently) 2013 Season: 85 Overall
Prediction 2014 Season: 93 Overall

I think we'll see leaps and bounds from him next year, as we've already seen from him this year. He makes a big play or two every game. That's what you want to see. We don't have to call his name out often, because he's not really getting put into bad situations. I really believe in Vacarro.

I went ahead and did the starting four of the secondary eventhough I was only going to do White, but the reason being I feel like we'll have one of the top 3 secondaries in the NFL next year...only definitively behind Seattle. I believe we can top San Francisco when Patrick Robinson comes back and another year of development from Rapheal Bush.

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If what you say is true, it will be a Three-peat!!!

;-]]]

It's tough not having a Shanle to pick on. Well, not really...

Alaska

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Patrick Robinson is a had sell. injury history makes him replaceable but i could understand the saints trying him for another year. he has shown some serious promise. right now white has his spot on the roster and Pat has a fight on his hands. i would love to see the saint take a risk on the second day of the draft and get a CB with size to develop like they did with white.

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He's going to be a top 10 CB by next year

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I really like his physicality and risk taking. He needs to work on his off coverage and his ball skills but so far he's steadily getting better and thats all that matters.

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Its amazing how much better players play when they're placed in a scheme that fits their skillset.

OK, maybe its not as amazing as it is common sense.

Its also why Dallas sucks so bad. They have mostly 3-4 press personnel being forced to play in a 4-3 Tampa-2 system. Spagnola ring a bell?

Even a caveman could have predicted that would fail.

How come us average Joe's can see that yet highly paid NFL GM's can't?

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Its easy to roast a cover 2. You need so much for it to be successful. You can kill it between the safeties or between the corner and the safety. Dallas was dumb to switch to that. They should let us get Mo Claiborne. He'd be great with us.

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This is one player I wouldn't want. He has done next to nothing in Dallas and is as brittle as they come.

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Cover 2 works great if you have the right personnel, but Dallas doesn't.

Rangy ball hawking safeties, a speedy MLB with excellent cover skills, a great front 4 that can apply pressure without blitzing, etc.

Dallas actually has great personnel to run a Rob Ryan type defense. Oh the irony is just friggin hilarious. I wonder if Rob Ryan can even sleep at night with all the laughing he must be doing at Jerry Jones' expense. Daals fans must be fuming with hate towards Jerry.

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Like the rest of the world.:p

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Not only that but Monte Kiffin is 73 years old. Leave the man alone, don't bring him in and set him up for failure.

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Yep. If you assemble all that no way you can have any money for offense.

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different system, different environment, different player.

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I would at least like to see what he can do under Ryan before pulling the plug on him. YOu never know maybe Ryan can get that 1st round play out of him.

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Because Jerry Jones is a f**king moron! He drafted a center in the first round!

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Is Corey White better than Greer at this point? No.
As a third year pro with 8-9 starts under his belt vs. a 32 year coming off brutal injury? Probably

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Yeah, this will be interesting to keep an eye on heading into next year. Has White's great play solidified him as a starter, or does Greer earn it back? Wouldn't be mad either way.

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He looked pretty decent before his injury. I really want to see how he develops under Ryan.

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Bingo go back to how this team was built and coached over the years and use that.

Spags went 180 from Williams style

Roy Boy just completed the 360 and we are back were we left off. getting younger and better with each passing year. but still attacking

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It is not the guys play because god knows at times he is great but you also have to accept the fact some players will never give you a full season as a rule of them. you can not depend on them for a full season.

is rob there yet? i am not sure but i do have my doubts and really would debate on resigning him due to the injury history

dude came out of college with injury bug on back and has not shaken it.

if they gave him another shot i would be ok with it but i would expect him on the side lines again and wishing we had drafted a CB to stand there and develop instead

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Yeah, I kind of like the Claiborne idea. He's honestly a press corner anyway. He played that in college and now they're trying to make him into a zone corner. My only concern would be his availability. Injuries just seem to find him.