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hagan714 02-25-2014 02:20 PM

Re: 2014 NFL Draft
 
impressed by

Donte Johnson NC State FS/CB 6020 200 4.45
Dontae Johnson vs Clemson (2013) | Draft Breakdown

Phillip Gains Rice CB 6002 193 4.38



Brandon Dixon NW Missouri St CB/FS 5111 202 4.40

saintsfan1976 02-25-2014 04:47 PM

Re: 2014 NFL Draft
 
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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 579362)
Kinda like what we thought we'd get in Martez Wilson?

I want one too.

Also, Vaccaro isn't really a "speedy" safety. His speed is probably average for a safety. He timed about the same as Harper and Jenkins did.


In what drills? 40yd dash?? he sure plays more quickly than either of those seem to be. Maybe his fast-twitch BRAIN is the key...

Danno 02-25-2014 05:09 PM

Re: 2014 NFL Draft
 
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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 579512)
In what drills? 40yd dash?? he sure plays more quickly than either of those seem to be. Maybe his fast-twitch BRAIN is the key...

Absolutely.

No wasted steps, no hesitiation...

Both make a 0.1 second difference in 40 yard dash times totally irrelevant.

That why a Ray Lewis looked blazing fast in his youth but only ran a 4.79/4.81 at the combine.

hagan714 02-25-2014 11:34 PM

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combine is a beauty show thats all. game tapes if you can find them are the best eval.

saintsfan1976 02-26-2014 06:28 AM

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Totally agree on combine being a pageant.

But it is fun to see just how athletic this generation of kids can be. The fact the Clowney CAN move that fast is incredible. Too bad he'll rarely use it

hagan714 02-26-2014 07:03 AM

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Round 1
Jason Verrett CB TCU 5095 176

Round 2
Jack Mewhort ROT/OG/LS Ohio St. 6060 306

Round 3
Weston Richburg OC Colorado St 6-3 298

This why i like it from round 3 on so many choices now after you get some measurable data and watch some drills on players you read about have watched but wonder about.

Josh Mauro, DE/DT Stanford 6054 276 4.98
Donte Johnson NC State FS/CB 6020 200 4.45
Howard Jones OLB/ILB Shepard 6022 229 4.54
Phillip Gains Rice CB 6002 193 4.38

6/7 UNDFA

Jerick McKinnon RB/WR/QB/DB/KR Georgia Southern 5090 209 4.41
Brandon Dixon NW Missouri St CB/FS 5112 204 4.41

right now if i could get more picks i would draft them all

that is the short list right now

WR is crazy as well RB so many good players tested better than thought.

still toying with OL and TE as well as DL and LB because i forgot to record it.

jeanpierre 02-27-2014 07:03 PM

Re: 2014 NFL Draft
 
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Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 579217)
Wilson ran a 4.55 and is shorter than Manziell. These are QBs brother.

40 yard times for QBs are moot, quickness is more relevant than speed.


Right.

But Wilson was drafted in the third round...

There talking about these guys in the first round...

Look, I hope these teams burn a 1R pick on a short QB...

I just don't want MY team burning a first rounder on a QB unless he's a proto-type passer, 6-3 or better, cannon for an arm and one of Dan Marino's Love Ilk...

And, if'n he's under that, he better smoke jokes that can't run a 4.4 with 'em if he's gonna take our first round pick in a draft...

jeanpierre 02-27-2014 07:41 PM

Re: 2014 NFL Draft
 
Saints Draft Candidates (per Round)

Round 1 (27) Kyle Van Noy, OLB, BYU, Height; 6’ 3”; Weight: 244lbs.
Round 1 (27) Justin Gilbert, CB , Oklahoma State; Height: 6' 0"; Weight: 200lbs.
Round 1 (27) Ha'Sean Clinton-Dix, FS, Alabama; Height: 6’ 1”; Weight 208lbs.
Round 1 (27) Taylor Lewan, OT, Michigan; Height: 6’ 7¼”; Weight 314lbs.
Round 1 (27) Kelvin Benjamin, WR, Florida St; Height: 6’ 5”; Weight 235lbs.

Round 2 (58) Jordan Matthews, WR, Vanderbilt; Height: 6' 2⅝"; Weight: 212lbs.
Round 2 (58) Jeremiah Attaochu, OLB, Georgia Tech; Height: 6’ 3”; Weight: 252lbs.
Round 2 (58) Troy Niklas, TE, Notre Dame; Height: 6’ 6⅝”; Weight: 270lbs.
Round 2 (58) Gabe Jackson, OL, Mississippi St; Height: 6’ 4”; Weight: 339lbs.
Round 2 (58) Kyle Fuller, CB, Virginia Tech; Height: 6' 0"; Weight: 190 lbs.
Round 2 (58) Jimmie Ward, S, Northern Illinois; Height: 5' 11"; Weight: 193 lbs.
Round 2 (58) Ja'Waun James, OT, Tennessee; Height: 6’ 6”; Weight: 315lbs.

Round 3 (91) Pierre Desir, CB, Lindenwood; Height: 6’ 1”; Weight: 195lbs.
Round 3 (91) C. J. Fiedorowicz, TE, Iowa; Height: 6’ 5”; Weight: 265 lbs.
Round 3 (91) Marcus Martin, C, USC; Height: 6’ 3”; Weight: 310lbs.
Round 3 (91) Dakota Dozier, G, Furman; Height: 6’ 4”; Weight: 312lbs.
Round 3 (91) Charles Sims, RB, West Virginia; Height: 6’ 0”; Weight 214 lbs.
Round 3 (91) Shayne Skov, LB, Stanford; Height: 6’ 2”; Weight: 245lbs.

Round 4 (122) Brandon Thomas, G, Clemson; Height: 6’ 4”; Weight: 316lbs.
Round 4 (122) Brandon Coleman, WR, Rutgers; Height: 6’ 5”; Weight: 220lbs.
Round 4 (122) James White, RB, Wisconsin; Height: 5’ 09”; Weight: 206lbs.
Round 4 (122) Antone Exum, CB, Virginia Tech; Height: 5’ 10⅝”; Weight: 218 lbs.
Round 4 (122) Ross Cockrell, CB, Duke; Height: 6’ 0”; Weight: 185lbs.
Round 4 (122) Brent Urban, DE, Virginia; Height: 6’ 6”; Weight: 298lbs.

Round 5 (155) Taylor Hart, DE, Oregon; Height: 6’ 6”; Weight: 287lbs.
Round 5 (155) Russell Bodine, OL, North Carolina; Height: 6’ 3”; Weight: 310lbs.
Round 5 (155) Howard Jones, OLB, Shepherd; Height: 6’ 2”; Weight: 229lbs.
Round 5 (155) Jeff Janis, WR, Saginaw Valley; Height: 6’ 2”; Weight: 212lbs.
Round 5 (155) Ronald Powell, OLB, Florida: Height: 6’ 3”; Weight: 240lbs.
Round 5 (155) Walt Aikens, CB, Liberty; Height: 6’ 0”; Weight: 198 lbs.

Round 6 (186) Kapri Bibbs, RB, Colorado State; Height: 5’ 11”; Weight: 200lbs.
Round 6 (186) Zack Kerr, NT, Delaware; Height: 6’ 2”; Weight: 334lbs.
Round 6 (186) Kadeem Edwards, OL, Tennessee St; Height: 6’ 4”; Weight: 310lbs.
Round 6 (186) Lavelle Westbrooks, CB, Georgia Southern; Height: 5’ 11” 186 lbs.
Round 6 (186) Dontae Johnson, DB, NC State; Height: 6’ 2”; Weight: 199lbs.
Round 6 (186) Caleb Lavey, ILB, Oklahoma State; Height: 6’ 3”; Weight: 240lbs.

brees84 02-27-2014 07:46 PM

Re: 2014 NFL Draft
 
Last year Stills in 5th, this year Jeff Janis! I like that but someone will pick him in 4th round.

jeanpierre 02-27-2014 08:39 PM

Re: 2014 NFL Draft
 
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Originally Posted by brees84 (Post 579901)
Last year Stills in 5th, this year Jeff Janis! I like that but someone will pick him in 4th round.

Actually, I see Janis going as high as the third after a great combine...


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