2014 NFL Draft

hagan714 · 03-05-2014, 03:04 AM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

Ryan Shazier is so far under the radar, i hope we get him

yeah i know but he is so much like JR in his game would it be a wise move? not like pass rush is an area of need

though he might be the BPA at 27 according to the saints board. never know i would say he is in that group of player that may very well end up in B&G

halloween 65 · 03-05-2014, 05:05 AM

I want to tell all of you this dream, and I really mean a sleeping type of dream, not made up but Lommis and Payton picked 5 O-linenen and 1 TE in the draft. I was not going to share this but I just for some reason I thought I would. I thought about this at work tonight and here is what I come up with our 2 pro bowl Gaurds are not getting any younger, we need a stud Center, our RT is not a spring chicken either, only real youth there is our LT and Graham will be costly, remember it was an actual dream but as crazy as it sounds it might work grooming the rookies for a year and replace the aging vets. I wish I had dreamed about a FS in there somewhere!!

jeanpierre · 03-05-2014, 08:28 AM

Cornerback is deeper than you think this year; unless it's Gilbert, Dennard, or maybe Fuller, I'd wait for a cornerback until later rounds and look for guys like

Round 3 (91) Pierre Desir, CB, Lindenwood; Height: 6’ 1”; Weight: 195 lbs.
Round 5 (155) Walt Aikens, CB, Liberty; Height: 6’ 0”; Weight: 198 lbs.Round 6 (186) Dontae Johnson, DB, NC State; Height: 6’ 2”; Weight: 200 lbs.

Just gotta be disciplined in our drafting the BPA when we pick and Verrett is a second round pick at best because of his size he will be exposed against 6' 3"+ WR in the NFL everyweek; remember, in college, he may have faced 3-4 receivers a year like described; every week in the NFL, teams are 2-4 receivers deep like that...

jeanpierre · 03-05-2014, 08:34 AM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

I want to tell all of you this dream, and I really mean a sleeping type of dream, not made up but Lommis and Payton picked 5 O-linenen and 1 TE in the draft. I was not going to share this but I just for some reason I thought I would. I thought about this at work tonight and here is what I come up with our 2 pro bowl Gaurds are not getting any younger, we need a stud Center, our RT is not a spring chicken either, only real youth there is our LT and Graham will be costly, remember it was an actual dream but as crazy as it sounds it might work grooming the rookies for a year and replace the aging vets. I wish I had dreamed about a FS in there somewhere!!

The only problem is this - when the rookie contracts expire, they will all expire at the same time!!!

That's why when drafting you pick your spots, draft best person available, trade a player for to fill another need; today's NFL roster should always be in flux with certain anchors on your roster...

Jack Vegas · 03-05-2014, 12:11 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Cornerback is deeper than you think this year; unless it's Gilbert, Dennard, or maybe Fuller, I'd wait for a cornerback until later rounds and look for guys like

Round 3 (91) Pierre Desir, CB, Lindenwood; Height: 6’ 1”; Weight: 195 lbs.
Round 5 (155) Walt Aikens, CB, Liberty; Height: 6’ 0”; Weight: 198 lbs.Round 6 (186) Dontae Johnson, DB, NC State; Height: 6’ 2”; Weight: 200 lbs.

Just gotta be disciplined in our drafting the BPA when we pick and Verrett is a second round pick at best because of his size he will be exposed against 6' 3"+ WR in the NFL everyweek; remember, in college, he may have faced 3-4 receivers a year like described; every week in the NFL, teams are 2-4 receivers deep like that...

Verrett size is fine. I guarantee you, all these people moving Fuller and Roby ahead of Verrett on their draft boards are going to look plumb stupid in 2-3 years. He is all football player. Dennard is the same package with more size, but he'll be long gone before we pick. Same for Gilbert, but Gilbert is a little finesse for me. I like tough guys with a mean streak back there.

hagan714 · 03-05-2014, 05:32 PM

Dennard is my #1 CB
Verrett is #2

Attitude is the big thing thats sets them apart from the rest.

jeanpierre · 03-06-2014, 06:53 AM

Draft Prospects Watch List By Round...
Picks I like per round are italicized...

Favorite player in this draft is Attaochu - who will most likely geaux in early round 2...

After further scouting, dropped USC C Marcus Martin and VaTech CB Antone Exum...

Sneaky Steal Pick would be WR Norwood from 'bama...

Wouldn't mind trading back from round 1 to gain an early 2 for Attaochu and a 4-5 round pick...

Round 1 (27) Justin Gilbert, CB, Oklahoma St; Height: 6' 0"; Weight: 202 lbs.
Round 1 (27) Ha Ha Clinton-Dix, Alabama; Height; 6’ 1”; Weight: 208 lbs.
Round 1 (27) Calvin Pryor, FS, Louisville; Height: 5’ 11”; Weight 207 lbs.
Round 1 (27) Jordan Matthews, WR, Vanderbilt; Height: 6’ 3”; Weight 212 lbs.
Round 1 (27) Kyle Van Noy, OLB, BYU; Height; 6’ 3”; Weight: 244 lbs.

Round 2 (58) Jerry Attaochu, OLB, Ga Tech; Height: 6’ 3”; Weight: 252 lbs.
Round 2 (58) Kyle Fuller, CB, Virginia Tech; Height: 6' 0"; Weight: 190 lbs.
Round 2 (58) Jimmie Ward, S, North Illinois; Height: 5' 11"; Weight: 193 lbs.
Round 2 (58) Ja'Waun James, OT, Tennessee; Height: 6’ 6”; Weight: 311 lbs.
Round 2 (58) Troy Niklas, TE, Notre Dame; Height: 6’ 6”; Weight: 270 lbs.

Round 3 (91) Brandon Thomas, G, Clemson; Height: 6’ 4”; Weight: 316 lbs.
Round 3 (91) Dakota Dozier, G, Furman; Height: 6’ 4”; Weight: 312 lbs.
Round 3 (91) Weston Richburg, C, Colorado St; Height: 6’ 3”; Weight 298 lbs.
Round 3 (91) Charles Sims, RB, West Virginia; Height: 6’ 0”; Weight 214 lbs.
Round 3 (91) C. J. Fiedorowicz, TE, Iowa; Height: 6’ 5”; Weight: 265 lbs.

Round 4 (122) Pierre Desir, CB, Lindenwood; Height: 6’ 1”; Weight: 195 lbs.
Round 4 (122) Brandon Coleman, WR, Rutgers; Height: 6’ 6”; Weight: 225 lbs.
Round 4 (122) Max Bullough, ILB, Michigan St; Height: 6’ 3”; Weight 249 lbs.
Round 4 (122) James White, RB, Wisconsin; Height: 5’ 09”; Weight: 206 lbs.
Round 4 (122) Jeff Janis, WR, Saginaw Valley; Height: 6’ 3”; Weight: 220 lbs.

Round 5 (155) Josh Mauro, DE, Stanford; Height: 6’ 6”; Weight: 271 lbs.
Round 5 (155) Ronald Powell, OLB, Florida; Height: 6’ 3”; Weight: 240 lbs.
Round 5 (155) Tyler Larsen, C, Utah St; Height: 6’ 4”; Weight: 313 lbs.
Round 5 (155) Kevin Norwood, WR, Alabama; Height: 6’ 2”; Weight: 199 lbs.
Round 5 (155) Walt Aikens, CB, Liberty; Height: 6’ 0”; Weight: 198 lbs.

Round 6 (186) Russell Bodine, OL, UNC; Height: 6’ 3”; Weight: 310 lbs.
Round 6 (186) Aaron Lynch, DE, So Florida; Height: 6’ 5”; Weight: 249 lbs.
Round 6 (186) Howard Jones, OLB, Shepherd; Height: 6’ 2”; Weight: 235 lbs.
Round 6 (186) Kadeem Edwards, OG, Tn State; Height: 6’ 4”; Weight: 313 lbs.
Round 6 (186) Walt Aikens, CB, Liberty; Height: 6’ 0”; Weight: 198 lbs.

Round 7/UDFA Dontae Johnson, DB, NC State; Height: 6’ 2”; Weight: 200 lbs.
Round 7/UDFA Zack Kerr, NT, Delaware; Height: 6’ 2”; Weight: 334 lbs.
Round 7/UDFA Caleb Lavey, ILB, Oklahoma St; Height: 6’ 3”; Weight: 240 lbs.
Round 7/UDFA Jonathan Dowling, DB, West Kentucky: 6’ 1”; Weight: 195 lbs.
Round 7/UDFA Ty Zimmerman, DB, Kansas St; Height: 6’ 1”; Weight: 200 lbs.

Danno · 03-06-2014, 06:59 PM

So if someone gets drafted that any of you mentioned in the previous 547 posts will you claim "I called it!!!!"? LOL!!!

jeanpierre · 03-06-2014, 07:33 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

So if someone gets drafted that any of you mentioned in the previous 547 posts will you claim "I called it!!!!"? LOL!!!

That could be your motivation, not mine...

If you'd read the thread without that dysfunction in your thought process you might discover several of us enjoy the discussing of learning of new players for familiarity, noted comparisons and new possibilities those players could bring our Saints...

Do you have any thoughts on players you'd like the Saints draft or not?

We'd really enjoy what you could offer...

Danno · 03-06-2014, 08:42 PM

Too much bold

View Poll Results: What positions should the front office focus on in the 2014 NFL Draft?
Outside Linebacker	21	23.33%
Tackle (Offense)	48	53.33%
Safety	12	13.33%
Inside Linebacker	17	18.89%
Center	26	28.89%
Cornerback	29	32.22%
Wide Receiver	32	35.56%
Guard	9	10.00%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 90. You may not vote on this poll

03-05-2014, 03:04 AM	#541
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: 2014 NFL Draft Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 Ryan Shazier is so far under the radar, i hope we get him yeah i know but he is so much like JR in his game would it be a wise move? not like pass rush is an area of need though he might be the BPA at 27 according to the saints board. never know i would say he is in that group of player that may very well end up in B&G

03-05-2014, 05:05 AM	#542
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: 2014 NFL Draft I want to tell all of you this dream, and I really mean a sleeping type of dream, not made up but Lommis and Payton picked 5 O-linenen and 1 TE in the draft. I was not going to share this but I just for some reason I thought I would. I thought about this at work tonight and here is what I come up with our 2 pro bowl Gaurds are not getting any younger, we need a stud Center, our RT is not a spring chicken either, only real youth there is our LT and Graham will be costly, remember it was an actual dream but as crazy as it sounds it might work grooming the rookies for a year and replace the aging vets. I wish I had dreamed about a FS in there somewhere!!

03-05-2014, 08:28 AM	#543
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2014 NFL Draft Cornerback is deeper than you think this year; unless it's Gilbert, Dennard, or maybe Fuller, I'd wait for a cornerback until later rounds and look for guys like Round 3 (91) Pierre Desir, CB, Lindenwood; Height: 6’ 1”; Weight: 195 lbs. Round 5 (155) Walt Aikens, CB, Liberty; Height: 6’ 0”; Weight: 198 lbs.Round 6 (186) Dontae Johnson, DB, NC State; Height: 6’ 2”; Weight: 200 lbs. Just gotta be disciplined in our drafting the BPA when we pick and Verrett is a second round pick at best because of his size he will be exposed against 6' 3"+ WR in the NFL everyweek; remember, in college, he may have faced 3-4 receivers a year like described; every week in the NFL, teams are 2-4 receivers deep like that... MarchingOn likes this.
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03-05-2014, 08:34 AM	#544
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2014 NFL Draft Originally Posted by halloween 65 I want to tell all of you this dream, and I really mean a sleeping type of dream, not made up but Lommis and Payton picked 5 O-linenen and 1 TE in the draft. I was not going to share this but I just for some reason I thought I would. I thought about this at work tonight and here is what I come up with our 2 pro bowl Gaurds are not getting any younger, we need a stud Center, our RT is not a spring chicken either, only real youth there is our LT and Graham will be costly, remember it was an actual dream but as crazy as it sounds it might work grooming the rookies for a year and replace the aging vets. I wish I had dreamed about a FS in there somewhere!! The only problem is this - when the rookie contracts expire, they will all expire at the same time!!! That's why when drafting you pick your spots, draft best person available, trade a player for to fill another need; today's NFL roster should always be in flux with certain anchors on your roster...

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03-05-2014, 12:11 PM	#545
Jack Vegas 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 2,254	Re: 2014 NFL Draft Originally Posted by jeanpierre Cornerback is deeper than you think this year; unless it's Gilbert, Dennard, or maybe Fuller, I'd wait for a cornerback until later rounds and look for guys like Round 3 (91) Pierre Desir, CB, Lindenwood; Height: 6’ 1”; Weight: 195 lbs. Round 5 (155) Walt Aikens, CB, Liberty; Height: 6’ 0”; Weight: 198 lbs.Round 6 (186) Dontae Johnson, DB, NC State; Height: 6’ 2”; Weight: 200 lbs. Just gotta be disciplined in our drafting the BPA when we pick and Verrett is a second round pick at best because of his size he will be exposed against 6' 3"+ WR in the NFL everyweek; remember, in college, he may have faced 3-4 receivers a year like described; every week in the NFL, teams are 2-4 receivers deep like that... Verrett size is fine. I guarantee you, all these people moving Fuller and Roby ahead of Verrett on their draft boards are going to look plumb stupid in 2-3 years. He is all football player. Dennard is the same package with more size, but he'll be long gone before we pick. Same for Gilbert, but Gilbert is a little finesse for me. I like tough guys with a mean streak back there. hagan714 and MarchingOn like this.
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03-05-2014, 05:32 PM	#546
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: 2014 NFL Draft Dennard is my #1 CB Verrett is #2 Attitude is the big thing thats sets them apart from the rest. MarchingOn likes this.

03-06-2014, 06:53 AM	#547
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2014 NFL Draft Draft Prospects Watch List By Round... Picks I like per round are italicized... Favorite player in this draft is Attaochu - who will most likely geaux in early round 2... After further scouting, dropped USC C Marcus Martin and VaTech CB Antone Exum... Sneaky Steal Pick would be WR Norwood from 'bama... Wouldn't mind trading back from round 1 to gain an early 2 for Attaochu and a 4-5 round pick... Round 1 (27) Justin Gilbert, CB, Oklahoma St; Height: 6' 0"; Weight: 202 lbs. Round 1 (27) Ha Ha Clinton-Dix, Alabama; Height; 6’ 1”; Weight: 208 lbs. Round 1 (27) Calvin Pryor, FS, Louisville; Height: 5’ 11”; Weight 207 lbs. Round 1 (27) Jordan Matthews, WR, Vanderbilt; Height: 6’ 3”; Weight 212 lbs. Round 1 (27) Kyle Van Noy, OLB, BYU; Height; 6’ 3”; Weight: 244 lbs. Round 2 (58) Jerry Attaochu, OLB, Ga Tech; Height: 6’ 3”; Weight: 252 lbs. Round 2 (58) Kyle Fuller, CB, Virginia Tech; Height: 6' 0"; Weight: 190 lbs. Round 2 (58) Jimmie Ward, S, North Illinois; Height: 5' 11"; Weight: 193 lbs. Round 2 (58) Ja'Waun James, OT, Tennessee; Height: 6’ 6”; Weight: 311 lbs. Round 2 (58) Troy Niklas, TE, Notre Dame; Height: 6’ 6”; Weight: 270 lbs. Round 3 (91) Brandon Thomas, G, Clemson; Height: 6’ 4”; Weight: 316 lbs. Round 3 (91) Dakota Dozier, G, Furman; Height: 6’ 4”; Weight: 312 lbs. Round 3 (91) Weston Richburg, C, Colorado St; Height: 6’ 3”; Weight 298 lbs. Round 3 (91) Charles Sims, RB, West Virginia; Height: 6’ 0”; Weight 214 lbs. Round 3 (91) C. J. Fiedorowicz, TE, Iowa; Height: 6’ 5”; Weight: 265 lbs. Round 4 (122) Pierre Desir, CB, Lindenwood; Height: 6’ 1”; Weight: 195 lbs. Round 4 (122) Brandon Coleman, WR, Rutgers; Height: 6’ 6”; Weight: 225 lbs. Round 4 (122) Max Bullough, ILB, Michigan St; Height: 6’ 3”; Weight 249 lbs. Round 4 (122) James White, RB, Wisconsin; Height: 5’ 09”; Weight: 206 lbs. Round 4 (122) Jeff Janis, WR, Saginaw Valley; Height: 6’ 3”; Weight: 220 lbs. Round 5 (155) Josh Mauro, DE, Stanford; Height: 6’ 6”; Weight: 271 lbs. Round 5 (155) Ronald Powell, OLB, Florida; Height: 6’ 3”; Weight: 240 lbs. Round 5 (155) Tyler Larsen, C, Utah St; Height: 6’ 4”; Weight: 313 lbs. Round 5 (155) Kevin Norwood, WR, Alabama; Height: 6’ 2”; Weight: 199 lbs. Round 5 (155) Walt Aikens, CB, Liberty; Height: 6’ 0”; Weight: 198 lbs. Round 6 (186) Russell Bodine, OL, UNC; Height: 6’ 3”; Weight: 310 lbs. Round 6 (186) Aaron Lynch, DE, So Florida; Height: 6’ 5”; Weight: 249 lbs. Round 6 (186) Howard Jones, OLB, Shepherd; Height: 6’ 2”; Weight: 235 lbs. Round 6 (186) Kadeem Edwards, OG, Tn State; Height: 6’ 4”; Weight: 313 lbs. Round 6 (186) Walt Aikens, CB, Liberty; Height: 6’ 0”; Weight: 198 lbs. Round 7/UDFA Dontae Johnson, DB, NC State; Height: 6’ 2”; Weight: 200 lbs. Round 7/UDFA Zack Kerr, NT, Delaware; Height: 6’ 2”; Weight: 334 lbs. Round 7/UDFA Caleb Lavey, ILB, Oklahoma St; Height: 6’ 3”; Weight: 240 lbs. Round 7/UDFA Jonathan Dowling, DB, West Kentucky: 6’ 1”; Weight: 195 lbs. Round 7/UDFA Ty Zimmerman, DB, Kansas St; Height: 6’ 1”; Weight: 200 lbs. hagan714 likes this.
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03-06-2014, 06:59 PM	#548
Danno Site Donor 2014 Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,640	Re: 2014 NFL Draft So if someone gets drafted that any of you mentioned in the previous 547 posts will you claim "I called it!!!!"? LOL!!!

03-06-2014, 07:33 PM	#549
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2014 NFL Draft Originally Posted by Danno So if someone gets drafted that any of you mentioned in the previous 547 posts will you claim "I called it!!!!"? LOL!!! That could be your motivation, not mine... If you'd read the thread without that dysfunction in your thought process you might discover several of us enjoy the discussing of learning of new players for familiarity, noted comparisons and new possibilities those players could bring our Saints... Do you have any thoughts on players you'd like the Saints draft or not? We'd really enjoy what you could offer... ChrisXVI likes this.

03-06-2014, 08:42 PM	#550
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