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2014 NFL Draft

this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; 2014 Pro Days: Combine-snub Ben Gardner surprise star at Stanford - CBSSports.com While lacking his teammate's recognition, Josh Mauro is a classic 5-technique defensive end who also helped his cause in Thursday's workout. The well-built Mauro showed off his commitment, ...

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Old 03-24-2014, 08:45 AM   #651
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2014 Pro Days: Combine-snub Ben Gardner surprise star at Stanford - CBSSports.com

While lacking his teammate's recognition, Josh Mauro is a classic 5-technique defensive end who also helped his cause in Thursday's workout. The well-built Mauro showed off his commitment, adding nine pounds and eight reps in the bench press Thursday from his Combine showing. On Thursday he measured in at 6-foot-6, 280 pounds and lifted the bar 29 times. Mauro tweeked his hamstring during shuttle drills but gutted out the rest of his positional workout, turning heads along the way. Mauro strength and toughness could make him a "surprise" top 64 candidate.
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Old 03-24-2014, 01:31 PM   #652
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2014 Pro Days: Combine-snub Ben Gardner surprise star at Stanford - CBSSports.com

While lacking his teammate's recognition, Josh Mauro is a classic 5-technique defensive end who also helped his cause in Thursday's workout. The well-built Mauro showed off his commitment, adding nine pounds and eight reps in the bench press Thursday from his Combine showing. On Thursday he measured in at 6-foot-6, 280 pounds and lifted the bar 29 times. Mauro tweeked his hamstring during shuttle drills but gutted out the rest of his positional workout, turning heads along the way. Mauro strength and toughness could make him a "surprise" top 64 candidate.
thats my boy. top 64? thats a long shot. spot start only do to injuries. i love the way he has been buried in the 6th round all this time. people are noticing. i say a solid fourth rounder any thing after he has a chance of being a major draft steal.
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Old 03-24-2014, 01:50 PM   #653
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Watching Bullough a few times this year, one of the slower ILB I've seen this year.
Borland is much slower than Bullough..
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Old 03-24-2014, 02:05 PM   #654
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ok lets look at the draft from a different view point. next years cap and players that will be making a major hit on it,

The big BUCKS:
Drew Brees $18.4 million to $26.4 million ($10.3 million roster bonus)
Jairus Byrd $3.5 million to $10.3 million ($6 million roster bonus)

Serious CAP causality candidates
Linebackers
Curtis Lofton $7 million (performance and workout bonus )
David Hawthorne 4.5 million (2.5 million roster bonus)
Victor Butler is an UFA

Solution
Round 3 - Christian Jones ILB/OLB Florida ST. 6031 240 4.74
Round 4 - Max Bullough, ILB/OLB Michigan St 6034 249 4.78
Round 6 - Howard Jones, OLB/ILB, Shepherd 6025 235 4.60

Top UDFA
Caleb Lavey, ILB, Oklahoma St 6021 235 4.64

2013 DRAFT: Rufus Johnson DE/OLB Tarleton State 6052 272 4.75

UFA Patrick Robinson, Rafael Bush
one of them should be back hint hint

Round 5
Dontae Johnson, DB, NC State 6021 200 4.45

Round 5
Walt Aikens, CB, Liberty 6005 203 4.47

Top UDFA
CB Brandon Dixon (NW Missouri State) 5114 203 4.41

Mark Ingram will be UFA so

We have been down this road before

Plus you got 2 picks left round 1 and 2.


Round 1

Round 2

Round 3
Christian Jones ILB/OLB Florida ST. 6031 240 4.74
Round 4
Max Bullough, ILB/OLB Michigan St 6034 249 4.78
Round 5
Dontae Johnson, DB, NC State 6021 200 4.45
Round 5
Walt Aikens, CB, Liberty 6005 203 4.47
Round 6
Howard Jones, OLB/ILB, Shepherd 6025 235 4.60

Top UDFA
Caleb Lavey, ILB, Oklahoma St 6021 235 4.64
Brandon Dixon CB NW Missouri State 5114 203 4.41

LB corp in camp would be killer
secondary would be just as fun to watch.
results better depth and possibility to replace from the bench instead of FA. Also the special teams would get a major shot in the arm.
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Will cost you 8m in cap space to make these guys casualties
Lofton - 5M in dead money
Hawthorne - 3m in dead money


Where do you see a 10.3m Roster bonus for Drew Brees? Drew has no roster bonus.
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Analyzing Saints' salary-cap future - New Orleans Saints Blog - ESPN

Drew Brees Salary Cap, Contracts, Salaries, Cap Hits, & News Profile

Jairus Byrd Salary Cap, Contracts, Salaries, Cap Hits, & News Profile

Curtis Lofton Salary Cap, Contracts, Salaries, Cap Hits, & News Profile

David Hawthorne Salary Cap, Contracts, Salaries, Cap Hits, & News Profile

even with the dead hit you will be making 7 million in caps space

even then who said to get rid of them? all i am doing is looking to draft down the road and what area would improve the most in this years draft.

right now we have moved around the dead money issue pretty well. we have no dead cap money so far according to the article

under neith the figures is a break down of money involved in the contracts as a whole for drew such as $22 million in incentive guarantees it is in these things that the bonus money in the contract numbers above come from. it is not all laid out so we get the full break down.

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2014 NFL compensatory draft picks by team | ProFootballTalk

No, the Saints get no compensatory picks...
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Analyzing Saints' salary-cap future - New Orleans Saints Blog - ESPN

Drew Brees Salary Cap, Contracts, Salaries, Cap Hits, & News Profile

Jairus Byrd Salary Cap, Contracts, Salaries, Cap Hits, & News Profile

Curtis Lofton Salary Cap, Contracts, Salaries, Cap Hits, & News Profile

David Hawthorne Salary Cap, Contracts, Salaries, Cap Hits, & News Profile

even with the dead hit you will be making 7 million in caps space

even then who said to get rid of them? all i am doing is looking to draft down the road and what area would improve the most in this years draft.

right now we have moved around the dead money issue pretty well. we have no dead cap money so far according to the article

under neith the figures is a break down of money involved in the contracts as a whole for drew such as $22 million in incentive guarantees it is in these things that the bonus money in the contract numbers above come from. it is not all laid out so we get the full break down.

You said cap casualty so that's why I mentioned the dead money. Can you replace both for less than 7m or get better at those positions for less than 7m?

I fully understand the spotrac layout and numbers. There is no roster bonus. 22m in incentive guarantees is for the 6 year life span of his contract.... And it is important to note that an "incentive guarantee", is not a bonus, that money is already counted, it just becomes guaranteed after a certain date.

In 2015 Drews Contract is a 26.4m cap hit. 18.75m in Salary, 7.4m proration of his signing bonus which he has already been paid, 250k of miscellaneous bonus. What is not written is what parts become guaranteed on what date.
You can get the layout here, but notice there is no roster bonus of 10.3m. There is no reference to that anywhere I can find on the net which is why I asked where you found that number.
http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcsouth/pos...rew-brees-deal


We have moved zero dead money. Dead money doesn't move, I am not sure which article you are reading but spotrac shows this season we have 13.7m in dead cap space. It shows nothing for 2015 because we haven't gotten past 2014 yet.

The only way we would have ANY dead money on the 2015 books right now is if we designated any of the cut players as "post June 1st cuts", we are allowed two and what that does is spread the dead money over two seasons, 2014 and 2015.


Look for dead money on the bottom of the 2014 cap page, I attached a screen shot.
http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/new-orleans-saints/cap-hit/

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Winston is not a read option QB. He's the real deal. I'm not sure you watched Florida St that much this year.

Not much no. I just assumed because thats the qbs in college nowadays.
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You can book this, barring freak injury, Jordan Matthews is and will be a better receiver than OBJ...

Decker, without Manning, might be allowed to hold his jock...

And if bloodlines mean anything, Matthews is cousin to...Jerry Rice...

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Decker means the no.2 receiver/deep threat. I'm thinking more on Matthews. He played in the SEC
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