2014 NFL Draft

ChrisXVI · 05-01-2014, 09:23 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

You think so Hagan? If our special teams coach doesn't get his act together, it won't matter who we have back there. This is an area where I personally think we need the most improvement.

Amen brother. Our special teams blocking is so sh***y that Hester in his prime would get tackled at the 22 yard line on every return. Greg McMahon has got to go! We haven't had a kick return or punt return for a TD since the 2009 season... That's insane!

WillSaints81 · 05-01-2014, 10:48 PM

Was that Lee? God no! Luckily he's expected to go before we pick.

WillSaints81 · 05-01-2014, 10:50 PM

Originally Posted by hagan714

cook is a good pick in our offense. Darrin proved the worth of a might mouse on offense. many a sleepless night for SP. how many ways can i get this kid the ball.

There is only one DB in this draft well in the last couple of draft that can cover the Cook, Odell, Rice, Welker and Austin type of first round graded talent and that is Jason Verrett.

His reaction time is off the chart. athleticism is off the chart. so i do not do not get the under value of a defender that can cover players under 6'1" all over the field and actually rack up pass defenses and can rack up INT's along the way.

I think the NFL draft rating system for DB is a few years behind the times compared of those for the these smaller quick twitch speed demons on offense that all get first round grades. why not defenders that can actually cover them?

This is why i have no problem with the other mighty mouse in the draft Jason Verret to our pick at 27 over say Kyle Fuller or Bradely Robey. neither has the reaction skills of Verrett.

Verret having man duty all game long on these specialty players would be huge for the saints. we are not a zone defense 75% of the time. man on man baby.

at times height is so over rated ask sam mills. put in the right schemes and use the right way all you need to talk about is the skill sets. this is what god made verret to do in the NFL neutralize those players that mess with defensive coordinators head all week.

Verrett is a DC 500mg Advil

Yeah he would be good too. That same expert picked Atlanta to get him in second round.

hagan714 · 05-02-2014, 09:38 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

You think so Hagan? If our special teams coach doesn't get his act together, it won't matter who we have back there. This is an area where I personally think we need the most improvement.

Did you watch him ever? amazing

SaintLeonard · 05-02-2014, 04:42 PM

Originally Posted by hagan714

Did you watch him ever? amazing

He could be our new version of Darren Sproles as well.

jeanpierre · 05-03-2014, 09:11 AM

Draft needs: New Orleans Saints | ProFootballTalk

Cornerback
Outside Linebacker
Wide Receiver
Linebacker

hagan714 · 05-03-2014, 11:10 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Draft needs: New Orleans Saints | ProFootballTalk

Cornerback
Outside Linebacker
Wide Receiver
Linebacker

sorry i have to lmao at how many of these so called experts never talk about the OL. you think with all the time Drew was on the turf it would at least get mentioned. Or the fact that we only have one RB that can pick up a blitz.

Need to answer the following questions
do we have a RT to replace Strief? his contract is very friendly and almost guarantees he retires a saints but age is an issue, can we have him be the #1 back up at both tackle spots later down the line.

We all know about OC and that will be answered in 7 days.

If PT goes down who is going to take over his roll? i do not see a pass blocker on the roster after PT. that is an issue

nice thing needs truly are taking a back seat to BPA this year.

hagan714 · 05-03-2014, 11:14 AM

here is question

we get on the clock in round 1 and 3 of the top 4 QB are still on the board. who would you take or would you pass on them because they are not BPA material?

lee909 · 05-03-2014, 11:18 AM

Really depends on if you feel Drews best days are gone.
What offers better value Bridgewater/Manziel sitting this year,possibly next year and trading Brees and taking a dead money hit(would open alot of cap space) or do you restructure Drews contract and get another 3/4 years out of him and hope a franchise QB will be in the draft come 2017/18

SaintLeonard · 05-03-2014, 11:28 AM

Originally Posted by hagan714

here is question

we get on the clock in round 1 and 3 of the top 4 QB are still on the board. who would you take or would you pass on them because they are not BPA material?

Well, personally I'm a huge, huge, huge fan of Teddy Bridgewater and I would not be opposed to giving him the Aaron Rodgers treatment. (meaning Teddy sits behind Brees for 3 or 4 years, then he takes over)

The only reason I'm saying this is because I don't think we have a huge pressing need on our team. None of our starters are so bad that they need to be replaced pronto, so we can afford taking a QB if we really want to in my opinion.
I'm not saying we should take a QB, but if there was ever a year where we don't really "need" our first rounder and could spend it on another position like QB, it is this year.

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Center	26	28.89%
Cornerback	29	32.22%
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Guard	9	10.00%
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05-01-2014, 09:23 PM	#871
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: 2014 NFL Draft Originally Posted by K Major You think so Hagan? If our special teams coach doesn't get his act together, it won't matter who we have back there. This is an area where I personally think we need the most improvement. Amen brother. Our special teams blocking is so sh***y that Hester in his prime would get tackled at the 22 yard line on every return. Greg McMahon has got to go! We haven't had a kick return or punt return for a TD since the 2009 season... That's insane!

05-01-2014, 10:48 PM	#872
WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,267	Re: 2014 NFL Draft Was that Lee? God no! Luckily he's expected to go before we pick.

05-01-2014, 10:50 PM	#873
WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,267	Re: 2014 NFL Draft Originally Posted by hagan714 cook is a good pick in our offense. Darrin proved the worth of a might mouse on offense. many a sleepless night for SP. how many ways can i get this kid the ball. There is only one DB in this draft well in the last couple of draft that can cover the Cook, Odell, Rice, Welker and Austin type of first round graded talent and that is Jason Verrett. His reaction time is off the chart. athleticism is off the chart. so i do not do not get the under value of a defender that can cover players under 6'1" all over the field and actually rack up pass defenses and can rack up INT's along the way. I think the NFL draft rating system for DB is a few years behind the times compared of those for the these smaller quick twitch speed demons on offense that all get first round grades. why not defenders that can actually cover them? This is why i have no problem with the other mighty mouse in the draft Jason Verret to our pick at 27 over say Kyle Fuller or Bradely Robey. neither has the reaction skills of Verrett. Verret having man duty all game long on these specialty players would be huge for the saints. we are not a zone defense 75% of the time. man on man baby. at times height is so over rated ask sam mills. put in the right schemes and use the right way all you need to talk about is the skill sets. this is what god made verret to do in the NFL neutralize those players that mess with defensive coordinators head all week. Verrett is a DC 500mg Advil Yeah he would be good too. That same expert picked Atlanta to get him in second round.

05-02-2014, 09:38 AM	#874
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: 2014 NFL Draft Originally Posted by K Major You think so Hagan? If our special teams coach doesn't get his act together, it won't matter who we have back there. This is an area where I personally think we need the most improvement. Did you watch him ever? amazing

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05-02-2014, 04:42 PM	#875
SaintLeonard Bounty hunter Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Nashville Posts: 490	Re: 2014 NFL Draft Originally Posted by hagan714 Did you watch him ever? amazing He could be our new version of Darren Sproles as well.

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05-03-2014, 11:10 AM	#877
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: 2014 NFL Draft Originally Posted by jeanpierre Draft needs: New Orleans Saints \| ProFootballTalk Cornerback Outside Linebacker Wide Receiver Linebacker sorry i have to lmao at how many of these so called experts never talk about the OL. you think with all the time Drew was on the turf it would at least get mentioned. Or the fact that we only have one RB that can pick up a blitz. Need to answer the following questions do we have a RT to replace Strief? his contract is very friendly and almost guarantees he retires a saints but age is an issue, can we have him be the #1 back up at both tackle spots later down the line. We all know about OC and that will be answered in 7 days. If PT goes down who is going to take over his roll? i do not see a pass blocker on the roster after PT. that is an issue nice thing needs truly are taking a back seat to BPA this year. MarchingOn likes this.
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05-03-2014, 11:14 AM	#878
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: 2014 NFL Draft here is question we get on the clock in round 1 and 3 of the top 4 QB are still on the board. who would you take or would you pass on them because they are not BPA material?

05-03-2014, 11:18 AM	#879
lee909 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,715 Blog Entries: 1	Re: 2014 NFL Draft Really depends on if you feel Drews best days are gone. What offers better value Bridgewater/Manziel sitting this year,possibly next year and trading Brees and taking a dead money hit(would open alot of cap space) or do you restructure Drews contract and get another 3/4 years out of him and hope a franchise QB will be in the draft come 2017/18

05-03-2014, 11:28 AM	#880
SaintLeonard Bounty hunter Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Nashville Posts: 490	Re: 2014 NFL Draft Originally Posted by hagan714 here is question we get on the clock in round 1 and 3 of the top 4 QB are still on the board. who would you take or would you pass on them because they are not BPA material? Well, personally I'm a huge, huge, huge fan of Teddy Bridgewater and I would not be opposed to giving him the Aaron Rodgers treatment. (meaning Teddy sits behind Brees for 3 or 4 years, then he takes over) The only reason I'm saying this is because I don't think we have a huge pressing need on our team. None of our starters are so bad that they need to be replaced pronto, so we can afford taking a QB if we really want to in my opinion. I'm not saying we should take a QB, but if there was ever a year where we don't really "need" our first rounder and could spend it on another position like QB, it is this year.

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