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Old 12-18-2013, 09:53 AM   #101
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Damn it took two games left in the season to cut him why wasn't Brown and Strief sorry asses wasn't cut either.
Because Brown makes a good back-up and Strief is our best O-lineman this year?
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Old 12-18-2013, 11:10 AM   #104
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If he missed in the Super Bowl, the Colts are in good field position! LOL Great scenario except it DIDN'T Happen! He hit all 3 and the Saints won the game. That's what winning does. You have arguments over "What Ifs"
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If he missed in the Super Bowl, the Colts are in good field position! LOL Great scenario except it DIDN'T Happen! He hit all 3 and the Saints won the game. That's what winning does. You have arguments over "What Ifs"
I responded to the post that the Saints won by 14 points so the 3 FGs Hartley made weren't that important; I was trying to point out that since the opposing team gets the ball where a missed FG is kicked from, if Hartley MISSED all 3 FGs in the Super Bowl, that would have given the Colts excellent field position.
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First off, if Hartley missed those 3 FGs, the Colts get the ball in good field position and they would probably score points on all three possessions.

If making multiple 40+ yd FGs isn't that impressive, then why is it a Super Bowl record? And they were also made outside, not exactly an indoor kickers comfort zone.
1. "ifs" huh? How about "If" we punted they wouldn't have had good field position... Jeese. Colts had 8 possessions and 2 TDs. The game winning play was Porters Pick 6.

As I said kicking 3 FGs in 1 game less than 50 yards is not impressive. Its expected. Hartley did it 8 times in his career with the Saints. Does doing it in the SB mean he is a better kicker than a kicker that does it in week 3? No. Mainly because for a kicker how good the opponent is opponent doesn't matter. Hartley kicked 3 FG in Sun Life Stadium is about all it amounts to.

If Hartley is that good why does he hold 1 record in regular season? His Adderall Season/Rookie Season he went 13/13...

2. If you find all my replies on Hartley you would see or know that Hartley is better outdoors. That IS his comfort zone. So is kicking on the road. We are a flippen dome team and he was worse indoors, on grass, at home by no less than a 10% margin...

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At the very least you have to agree that Hartley is a poor fit for a dome team. Like him, love him, buy his jersey while you can.. He is gone and his career as a Saint was much like Milli Vanilli.. He was a 1 hit wonder in 2009 and there is nothing else to hold on to.
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Way too much drama for a kicker. There was always something. They gave him more opportunities than most get.
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