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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Lelito has been up and down, exactly what you expect from a rookie, but I can definitely see him passing DLP on depth chart at OC. DLP has been a cheap stop-gap, but hasn't improved. Harris at the other tackle ...

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Old 12-30-2013, 10:16 PM   #41
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Lelito has been up and down, exactly what you expect from a rookie, but I can definitely see him passing DLP on depth chart at OC.
DLP has been a cheap stop-gap, but hasn't improved.
Harris at the other tackle scares me. Sign Strief- better than average RT, offensive captain, very intelligent = STABILITY

The two highest paid right tackles are Cherilus at $5.5 mill and Stewart (Tenn) at $5 mill. Double Strief to $4.5 mill and be done with it
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Armstead did fine on Run Blocking. However C-LT didnt do well pass blocking again
Defending Drew
Armstead - 1 SK 2 HU
DLP - 1 SK
Grubbs - 1 SK 1 Hit
Strief - 1 HU
Watson - 1 HU
I'm still trying to figure this one out, how did 3 people get credited with giving up a sack when there was only one sack? Didn't he cut between Grubbs and Armstead?
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Old 12-31-2013, 06:28 AM   #43
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Strief is plenty good enough at RT so we dont need michael oher, strief graded way higher than him anyway

We will probably look at center, DLP gets man handled quit abit
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I'm still trying to figure this one out, how did 3 people get credited with giving up a sack when there was only one sack? Didn't he cut between Grubbs and Armstead?
I think it was because when brees was sacked there were 3 d lineman all over him, so its like 3 players collectively gave up that one sack if that makes sense
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I'm still trying to figure this one out, how did 3 people get credited with giving up a sack when there was only one sack? Didn't he cut between Grubbs and Armstead?

On a bull rush or a spin move, one OL is responsible for a sack.

When a pocket collapses, more than one OL is responsible for the sack.

Just because the NFL records 1 sack on a QB, and credits 1 sack to a defensive player, it doesn't remove the fault from multiple linemen.

The adverse can be also true. Drew can be credited for 1 sack and no OL are responsible because he either held it too long, or it was a coverage sack no receivers were open and he couldn't get out of the pocket.

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PFF O-line grades

Strief 2.3
Armstead 1.8
DLP 1.6
Evans -.3
Grubbs -.8

Once again, Strief grades out as our best O-lineman.
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PFF O-line grades

Strief 2.3
Armstead 1.8
DLP 1.6
Evans -.3
Grubbs -.8

Once again, Strief grades out as our best O-lineman.

Do they differentiate between pass and run blocking?
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PFF O-line grades

Strief 2.3
Armstead 1.8
DLP 1.6
Evans -.3
Grubbs -.8

Once again, Strief grades out as our best O-lineman.
In Armstead's defense, LT should get an extra point at startup.
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PFF O-line grades

Strief 2.3
Armstead 1.8
DLP 1.6
Evans -.3
Grubbs -.8

Once again, Strief grades out as our best O-lineman.
This is how they all break down for the season.

Strief Overall 26.5 Pass 21.7 Run -0.1 Screen -0.5
Grubbs Overall 14.9 Pass 6.6 Run 1.7 Screen 2.5
Evans Overall 9.5 Pass 10 Run-6.5 Screen 1.5
DLP Overall 4.0 Pass 2.7 Run -3.7 Screen 1.5
Armstead Overall -1.9 Pass 2.1 Run 1.2 Screen 0
Lelito Overall -8.0 Pass 5.3 Run 2.8 Screen -0.5
Brown Overall -9.2 Pass -13.6 Run 1.8 Screen 0.0
Harris Overall -3.8 Pass 0.4 Run -4.8 Screen 0
Grubbs is the only one that grades positive for all. Other than that... Armstead, Lelito, Brown are our best run blockers... Too bad we can only have 1 on the field at a time on the same side of the ball LOL>

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I heard something somewhere that roaf was giving him pointers and advice
I think Roaf was telling Armstead that he shoulda gone to Louisiana Tech University
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