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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Did someone say duece? lol PT will be around for a while hes the most consistent rb I do see Khiry filling his role in the future. MI does what he did vs the eagles this Saturday I see him ...

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Old 01-05-2014, 09:34 PM   #11
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Did someone say duece? lol PT will be around for a while hes the most consistent rb I do see Khiry filling his role in the future. MI does what he did vs the eagles this Saturday I see him getting more carries nxt year.
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In honesty I think we have 1 too many rb.'s. If I would trade 1 it would be Sproles, I like Sproles but like Bush he is getting less effective in schemes. He is still a good player but I would trade him. We could use the picks and get players we are thin at a certain position. Between PT, Ingram, and Robinson our backfield would still be stout. I just feel that being overcrowded has hurt us more than it has helped. Another deep threat stud reciever to go along with Stills could ease a lot of pain.
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Old 01-05-2014, 10:51 PM   #13
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Naturally, props to Ingram -- but he has a lot of make up work to do. One or two games is not going to do it for me. OK, if he wins the game in Seattle for us -- goes for 200 yards -- I'll roll out the red carpet for him.
We also have to give him the ball more.. Adrian petterson said if i dont get 15 touches i never get into a rhythm

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Old 01-06-2014, 12:50 AM   #14
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Ingram did look very Deuce last night. I have to say it was his best performance as a Saint. Every time he ran the ball and gashed holes I screamed my lungs out. It's exciting to see him come into his own.
Just when I was longing for the smash mouth rushing days of Deuce in the back field. MAN did I get a warm fuzzy chuckle listening to Eagles fans cringe at Ingram gashing their D. I have renewed faith this team can be more than just a 'pass first' type team! Love it!
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Who would think we would come out knocking heads and shoving the ball down da eagles face. Very stoked about this.
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My take is that right now, with Ingram running the rock consistently... we are a much better team than we were in prior weeks, especially on the road. Pierre Thomas not playing may have been a blessing in disguise.

The problem with saying this though is that Pierre Thomas is an amazing football player, and there's no point in getting rid of amazing football players... especially when they contribute something vital to your team. Sean Payton needs take a big long look at the offense, figure out how to properly utilize both Ingram and Thomas in a way in which Ingram can get consistent carries and still allow Thomas to be effective in the screen game.

One thing that would make this much easier to accomplish is if Ingram became a larger threat in the passing game, as I think the way that we switch Ingram and Thomas in and out makes our offense somewhat predictable in what we are doing. Also I think the backs need bigger chunks of play time instead of switching in and out repeatedly. Several different changes that probably need to occur but all in all a different formula is needed.
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We also have to give him the ball more.. Adrian petterson said if i dont get 15 touches i never get into a rhythm

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Ive debunked that "rhythm" myth many times. Its like saying "give me the ball more and I will put up more yards".. No Schit, ya think?

If the Texans played the Jaguars more they would eventually beat them.

If rhythm was a requirement First Qtr. rushing stats would be horrible.
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Old 01-06-2014, 07:04 AM   #18
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Ive debunked that "rhythm" myth many times. Its like saying "give me the ball more and I will put up more yards".. No Schit, ya think?

If the Texans played the Jaguars more they would eventually beat them.

If rhythm was a requirement First Qtr. rushing stats would be horrible.
I don't think the having 15 rushes thing is the problem. It's more about having plays clustered together. When you go in there, run the ball... and don't get to rush again until a series or 2 down the road... you are going to run into a "rhythm" problem.

Think that we over-substitute at times, got too many moving pieces. The idea is to keep people fresh and get mismatches... but it has some unintended consequences.
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Also can Ingram and robinson be the one two punch next year and we release or trade PT?

I could maybe change this to my quote...
It's about as ignorant as trading Drew Brees
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In honesty I think we have 1 too many rb.'s. If I would trade 1 it would be Sproles, I like Sproles but like Bush he is getting less effective in schemes. He is still a good player but I would trade him. We could use the picks and get players we are thin at a certain position. Between PT, Ingram, and Robinson our backfield would still be stout. I just feel that being overcrowded has hurt us more than it has helped. Another deep threat stud reciever to go along with Stills could ease a lot of pain.
I agree about the "one too many backs" concept and have thought that for a while. But I'm not sure if Sproles is the odd man out. He's so dangerous out of the backfield and is a match up nightmare in the passing game. I'm glad I don't have to make that decision.
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