How We Will Beat Seattle
 

12th Man , Monday Night Football , The World is Watching and we throw a Duck losing 34 - 7. The Most Embarrassing loss in the Sean Payton Era.

Let us Analyze what exactly happened ... And what that loss had in Common with all of our Road Playoff Woes ...

@Chicago 2007
Drew Brees Attempted Nearly 50 Passes throwing 27 For 49.
Rushing Attempts 11

@Seattle 2013 Loss
Drew Brees Attempted Nearly 40 Passes throwing 23 for 38.
Rushing Attempts 18

@SanFran 2011 Loss
Drew Brees Attempted nearly 70 Passes throwing 40 for 63 !
Rushing Attempts 14

@Seattle 2010 Loss
Drew Brees Attempted 60 Passes completing 39 ...
Rushing Attempts 22


In all of our Playoff Losses , Our Passing Heavily Outweighs our Rushing Attempts ...

In our 1 and only Road Playoff Win , Our Totals Are :
Drew Brees Attempted 30 Passes , Completing 20.
Rushing Attempts 36.


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As You Can See Our Losses are Very Similar , Our Win Stands out Very Much as Far as Offensively which also Corresponds With Our Defense. The More We Throw The More the Clock Stops when We Miss. The Sooner and more frequently Our Defense gets Sentenced out to an Uphill Battle. Which in the Past was a death sentence with our poor defense. So in retrospect we were leaning too much on our Terrible Defense back then.

With the Win We Helped them out by Running the Clock , Winning TOP and Limiting the Opportunities Opposing offenses had against them in terms of Numbers of Snaps against them.

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Now Lets Examine Seattles 3 Losses This Year...


Cardinals

Carson Palmer 13/25
46 Rushing Attempts


Colts

Andrew Luck 16/29
29 Rushing Attempts


49ers

Colin Kaepernick 15/29
33 Rushing Attempts

Basically as Vaunted as their Defense has been out made to be , If You Run Over Them You Win. In all of their losses the opposition ran for more than they threw ! Great News as Ingram and Robinson are Finding Footing.

Basically We Will Need A Mirror Image of What We Just Did to Philly in the 2nd Half.

1st Key - Run The Ball
2nd Key - Deny Them The Big Play
3rd Key - Get Off The Field on 3rd Down.

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4th Key - Eat more Popeyes chicken! Great analysis, I liked watching the Saints ground and pound last night, it was a nice change of tone.

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Run the ball.. exactly what the rams did and Bucs did. Both lost but both threatened the hawks. If we can start off with a 10 yrd gain from MI or whoever vs the Seahawks I'd be happily surprised.

Run + No turnovers + Good D = Success

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We Could easily Embarrass Them... If they refuse to respect the Run , We Will Literally Run Them Out of their own Building , If they choose to do something about the Run , Jimmy Better be ready to Bend them Goal Posts

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I think its time for seattle ?? We best dem eagles.. Now lets get another bird.. I think we need to just be a lil good at running the ball.. So we open r play action.. This is a drew brees game he needs to lead us and he can... Funny thing guys dont kill me when i say this but this year im more excited when r d comes out.. Cause they have saved r but alot.. Hopefully this week we r both great on offense and defense.. Oh and lewis must play

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This only works if the O-line that played yesterday shows up in Seattle. I assume they will get on the plane -- but it HAS been an issue all year and it definitely was not just Brown. Seattle's front 4 is pretty good.

On the D: Stop Skittles, contain Wilson in the pocket, preferably sack him.

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I am going out on a limb here...

Score more points them them?

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I don't like to see Drew have to run - which of course we almost never see.

BUT

I'd sure like to see him do more of it because in so many cases I've seen us punt because rather than run for an easy 3 or 4 yards Drew will make a risky throw.

I guess I just wish he would take those 3 or 4 yards a few times a game so the defense would start reacting to the possibility which might pull them off a PT or Sproles or Khiry checkdown.

Am I crazy?

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Yes it wassnt just brown but there are large improvements since switching to armstead in pass protection and run blocking

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That triangle D seattle runs actually has lots of holes in it and can be picked apart by short throws and a stout run game, deep ball is much harder to get, but can be had when they get to playing tighter on the line to protect the short passes and run. Inside the red zone run it down their throat, man up O this is another good D we face.

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Look, three teams beat Seattle this year. We beat two of those teams this year. Sure, it will be a battle -- but I say we know what we have to do now. All we have to do is bring it. I think we will.

Two Dat!!!

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I think you are right on!! Yes, Drew needs to take some running the ball lessons at the Colin Kapernick and (gritting my teeth) Cam Newton school of quarterbacking. There is no shame in getting your team a first down ( or even a TD ) with your legs -- just don't take TOO much risk. I think Drew and Payton are finally subscribers. I hope I am not wrong, because we will need every type of weapon and trickeration.

Also, they are finally using QBKs. (head-banging here) Why in the he11 haven't we been doing this all year?!?!? (so frustrating).

I really want to see Sean at his gun-slinger play-caller best -- and not those asinine end-arounds.

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Good week of prep and play with confidence!

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That triangle d worked perfect the first time.. May i say we aint seen that b4, but if we can somehow run the ball.. Diffrent game. I remeber us trying to run and got killed everytime against seattle with sean payton hes quick to get rid of the run... If we just stick with it get a good run like we did against eagles it will have them guessing.... That triangle d is no joke so we must get atleast a lil running game.. Just 3 or 4 break out runs with ingram will stop that triangle d will get slowed down

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I've been yelling this all season. If youve noticed, the last to games his runs have helped sustain drives and we've won both. #ijs

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Drew is light years ahead of KC or Cam, he needs no running lesson from them. Brees is way better passer and just needs to manage the game better and stop the interceptions. Saying Brees should be KC or Cam is pretty stupid, hes a elite pocket passer. The others are not very good, and gimick runners, but not very good QB's.
I think Brees needs to check his ego, be a team player, and understand hes not going to win the game on his own. Be methodical, and take the sack.

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There are times when the cliche of a throwing QB get in the way of doing whatever it takes to move the chains ... For instance I watched the bengals fail again and again on 3rd and 4th short as dalton was trying too hard to make a great throw when all he had to do was literally step up for like a half yard or two with nobody around for the first down mark. I'm sure Brees isn't that slow to where the linebacker covering jimmy or Sproles is fast enough to shut them down twenty yards downfield and come up and make a stop before Drew can Sprint straight for 3 or 4... Hell That's what won the 9ers that game when kap jetted. And that's with a QB spy ! With Drew they wouldn't suspect a thing ...

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One bird down.......and another one on the way.:smile:

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Bottom Line --- How to Beat the SeaChickens...

Score More Points...

Doesn't matter how (Offense/Defense), win/loss is on the scoreboard and based off POINTS.

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Road losses- 10 giveaways, 1 takeaway

I think I know what we have to do to beat Seattle.

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We will need two cornerbacks as good as Antoine Cason and Jerraud Powers. The pass rush is also going to have to crush it.

We are also going to need some luck.

Seattle is beatable.

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A few comments to some posts I see.

In all of our losses and wins both on the road and home our passing heavily out weighs our rushing except for last Sat. That is how we play.

We run when we can. I do recall PT getting knocked out of the SF playoff game on the 5 yard line in the first Qtr?

While incomplete passes might kill the clock.. When you are averaging 7.9 yards/attempt passing but 3.9 yards/attempt rushing.... You throw to move the ball.

Time of possession isn't a litmus test for winning. Eagles had the lowest ToP of all teams by nearly a full minute 26:24 and had the 2nd ranked offense in yards and 1 win more than the league leader in ToP the Chargers.

You run when you can run, you pass when you can pass. We don't turn the ball over, and take what is given.

This team is built and plays differently than past teams. More defense and less offense... It may be different but it works well together and gets the job done.

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Force turnovers, make no turnovers.

But I love how you correlated the historic Payton trends in playoff losses with the SEA losses this year. We should all remember, AZ beat them in their "impossible-to-win-in" house by running over 40 freakin' times. Our running backs are much better than AZ's, and AZ's O-line isn't as good as ours. If Carson Palmer can go in there and do it, Brees can do it. SEA is already looking past us to the winner of the SF/CAR game. Excellent...

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Arizona has a running game. Their O-Line is, I would say, comparable to ours -- they certainly aren't worse. They also have a pass rush and a secondary that defended some mind-blowingly accurate throws. Watch that game again. Carson Palmer did everything he could do to lose that game. Arizona's D PLAYED IN THEIR BIG BOY PANTS.

And, yes, they ran the ball -- EVEN WHEN THE RUN WAS NOT WORKING. Wore Seattle's D down. They also got some VERY LUCKY calls by the refs, too.

We'll need to bring our A game -- and some luck too.

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Wore Seattles D down are the key words, thats what the run game does. The big men up front getting crashed and pounded on time after time will slow down eventually. Our O-line has to out perform them and good things will come.

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Um, I don't know where you have been for the last few seasons but there are some new type quaterbacks in the game right now, and they are winning football games ( with their legs ).

There is talk of this type QB "changing the game". Notably, three (3) of these QBs are in the playoffs this season: Russell Wilson, Cam Newton and Colin Kapernick.

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We will score more points !!!! Sorry. We have Drew Brees and Coach Payton and you don't.

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I am a Saints fan -- hello. Note my name -- WHODATINCA? I'm just arguing for Drew running the ball just a LITTLE more. That's all.

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Brees threw all those passes in those losses because we were playing catch up. This time around we have a defense capable of holding things close until the offense gets it together.

People forget but we did some very nice things on defense in that Monday night blowout especially in the 2nd half. I won't completely dismiss the notion that Seattle let up just a bit, BUT schematically we seemed to have them more figured out.

If we have those adjustments in mind I think the defense can limit the Seahawks and keep the game relatively low-scoring which would be in our favor, IMO. This will need to be a gameplan based on field position and time of possession. Grind it out. I don't think that necessarily means that you have to run the ball way more than you pass, but you do have to be very strong on 3rd down and keep the chains moving and their offense on the sideline.

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Bingo! With no giveaways and a couple of sustained drives in the first half, this is a completely different game than the last time.

SFIAH

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balance of pass and run and a mean defense...



our defense has a huge chip on their shoulder for the seachickens.

count on that.

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decisively with no lingering questions

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Heavy doses of M.Ingram - K.Robinson. Make Seahawk's safeties-linebackers respect the run. Air it out when opportunity arises .....

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[QUOTE=CoreyO;569524]Yes it wassnt just brown but there are large improvements since switching to armstead in pass protection and run blocking[/QUOTE

Because the rest of them realized they would be riding the bench too if they didn't start playing like they're capable of.

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I like basically making it a defensive battle. Low scoring. Our D has to match theirs which shouldn't be a problem. Then, it's the 4th quarter and who wants it more. Somebody will make a big play. I say we do.

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