Mark Ingram never lost faith and teammates never gave up on him

01-09-2014, 10:10 PM

I do not remember if Mark came out of Alabama a junior or senior but you have to understand where he came from was also a " carry by committee" too he had Richardson and Lacy sharing the backfield with
him at Alabama! So that means he just has not had the time in to set himself to be a featured back. I think we will see the Mark Ingram we saw on his last year at Alabama from here on out. Just needs to stay healthy and get atleast 15 to 20 touches a game. Good luck, Mark!!!

SaintnDE · 01-10-2014, 08:07 AM

I think he has improved greatly, but I'm not completely sold yet. I personally can't just flip a switch from "he's okay" to "he's great". Over time I hope that changes, but I just can't jump on board fully yet....but I AM riding on the running boards.

Danno · 01-10-2014, 08:09 AM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Are you calling Bama football players intellectually challenged?

Danno · 01-10-2014, 08:14 AM

Originally Posted by Utah_Saint

Nobody is happier that Ingram's playing great now than I am but come on man, at one point this season he was averaging around 2 yards a carry, while PT and Sporles had almost double that. And in the past two seasons he had the lowest ypc of the three of them. Maybe it's just me, but questioning Ingram's ability was perfectly understandable.

There's a huge difference in questioning his ability and calling him a bust, worst RB in the league, Mr 1 yard carry, Horrible, trade him for a bag of chips, etc.

His 3.9 wasn't nearly as "catastrophically bad" as many made it out to be. Many reasons were stated as to why his average wasn't quite as good as PT's and Sproles. Many chose to overlook the real issues and just label him a total bust.

TheOak · 01-10-2014, 09:25 AM

Originally Posted by Utah_Saint

Nobody is happier that Ingram's playing great now than I am but come on man, at one point this season he was averaging around 2 yards a carry, while PT and Sporles had almost double that. And in the past two seasons he had the lowest ypc of the three of them. Maybe it's just me, but questioning Ingram's ability was perfectly understandable.

Some times we see what we want to see.

For the 2013 Regular Season
Look at PTs game logs. He hasn't AVE more than 2.9 YPC since week 13, and 8 of his 16 games were less than 2.9 YPC.
Pierre Thomas: Game Logs at NFL.com

4 of Sproles games have been less than 2.9 YPC
Darren Sproles: Game Logs at NFL.com

Ingram has had 4 less than 2.9 YPC as well.
Mark Ingram: Game Logs at NFL.com

Rugby Saint II · 01-10-2014, 03:46 PM

I was a fan of his coming out of Alabama but I lost faith a long time ago. A couple of good games doesn't change my feelings that much. I don't like the way he prances around the field like his runs were done all by himself.
If we trade him that is great.....if we keep him and he continues to develop then that is fine with me too. If he relapses I will puke.

Utah_Saint · 01-10-2014, 07:48 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

Some times we see what we want to see.

For the 2013 Regular Season
Look at PTs game logs. He hasn't AVE more than 2.9 YPC since week 13, and 8 of his 16 games were less than 2.9 YPC.
Pierre Thomas: Game Logs at NFL.com

4 of Sproles games have been less than 2.9 YPC
Darren Sproles: Game Logs at NFL.com

Ingram has had 4 less than 2.9 YPC as well.
Mark Ingram: Game Logs at NFL.com

Not sure what you mean by "Some times we see what we want to see."?

You didn't notice Ingram's sub par performance for 2 and a half years?

After the first quarter of this season,
Sproles was averaging 4.2 yards per carry
Thomas was averaging 3.4 yards per carry
And Ingram who had already missed two games due to injury by that point was averaging 1.8 yards per carry.

When was his first good game this season? Week 10 against the Cowboys?

In 2011 and 2012 Ingram averaged 3.9 yards per carry
Sproles and Thomas averaged 5.9 and 4.8 yards per carry respectively.

Hard to miss that kind of contrast.

Like I said, it's great that he's been playing great lately and everyone's really happy about it, and we're all hoping he's the next Adrian Peterson but anyone that questioned his ability early in the season had good reason to do so. None of us wanted to see it but it was hard not to.

Saintaintso · 01-10-2014, 07:55 PM

He's on fire now ... What happened yesterday don't matter ... Heck he's better on the road than Brees is ...

jeanpierre · 01-10-2014, 08:01 PM

He has one year (2014) left on his rookie contract...

halloween 65 · 01-10-2014, 08:26 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Too bad numerous so called fans did.

You have to admit that he really did nothing for anyone to say he looked good with the overall body of work he did. Up until a few weeks ago he has started to show what he can do. I'm o.k with him being a late bloomer as long as he keeps bloosoming so to speak but he has to keep it up. His draft status #28 in the first round was pretty high and to give below average # , you get what I'm saying.

01-09-2014, 10:10 PM	#11
Threaded by ssvnewman Registered Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 38 Rating: (0 votes - average) I do not remember if Mark came out of Alabama a junior or senior but you have to understand where he came from was also a " carry by committee" too he had Richardson and Lacy sharing the backfield with him at Alabama! So that means he just has not had the time in to set himself to be a featured back. I think we will see the Mark Ingram we saw on his last year at Alabama from here on out. Just needs to stay healthy and get atleast 15 to 20 touches a game. Good luck, Mark!!! lsusaint912 likes this.
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01-10-2014, 08:07 AM	#12
SaintnDE 100th Post Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 443	Re: Mark Ingram never lost faith and teammates never gave up on him I think he has improved greatly, but I'm not completely sold yet. I personally can't just flip a switch from "he's okay" to "he's great". Over time I hope that changes, but I just can't jump on board fully yet....but I AM riding on the running boards. lsusaint912 likes this.
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01-10-2014, 08:09 AM	#13
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,640	Re: Mark Ingram never lost faith and teammates never gave up on him Originally Posted by SmashMouth Are you calling Bama football players intellectually challenged?

01-10-2014, 08:14 AM	#14
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,640	Re: Mark Ingram never lost faith and teammates never gave up on him Originally Posted by Utah_Saint Nobody is happier that Ingram's playing great now than I am but come on man, at one point this season he was averaging around 2 yards a carry, while PT and Sporles had almost double that. And in the past two seasons he had the lowest ypc of the three of them. Maybe it's just me, but questioning Ingram's ability was perfectly understandable. There's a huge difference in questioning his ability and calling him a bust, worst RB in the league, Mr 1 yard carry, Horrible, trade him for a bag of chips, etc. His 3.9 wasn't nearly as "catastrophically bad" as many made it out to be. Many reasons were stated as to why his average wasn't quite as good as PT's and Sproles. Many chose to overlook the real issues and just label him a total bust.

01-10-2014, 09:25 AM	#15
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 18,978	Re: Mark Ingram never lost faith and teammates never gave up on him Originally Posted by Utah_Saint Nobody is happier that Ingram's playing great now than I am but come on man, at one point this season he was averaging around 2 yards a carry, while PT and Sporles had almost double that. And in the past two seasons he had the lowest ypc of the three of them. Maybe it's just me, but questioning Ingram's ability was perfectly understandable. Some times we see what we want to see. For the 2013 Regular Season Look at PTs game logs. He hasn't AVE more than 2.9 YPC since week 13, and 8 of his 16 games were less than 2.9 YPC. Pierre Thomas: Game Logs at NFL.com 4 of Sproles games have been less than 2.9 YPC Darren Sproles: Game Logs at NFL.com Ingram has had 4 less than 2.9 YPC as well. Mark Ingram: Game Logs at NFL.com Danno likes this.

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01-10-2014, 03:46 PM	#16
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 23,727	Re: Mark Ingram never lost faith and teammates never gave up on him I was a fan of his coming out of Alabama but I lost faith a long time ago. A couple of good games doesn't change my feelings that much. I don't like the way he prances around the field like his runs were done all by himself. If we trade him that is great.....if we keep him and he continues to develop then that is fine with me too. If he relapses I will puke. AlaskaSaints, ChrisXVI and halloween 65 like this.

01-10-2014, 07:48 PM	#17
Utah_Saint Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 3,521	Re: Mark Ingram never lost faith and teammates never gave up on him Originally Posted by TheOak Some times we see what we want to see. For the 2013 Regular Season Look at PTs game logs. He hasn't AVE more than 2.9 YPC since week 13, and 8 of his 16 games were less than 2.9 YPC. Pierre Thomas: Game Logs at NFL.com 4 of Sproles games have been less than 2.9 YPC Darren Sproles: Game Logs at NFL.com Ingram has had 4 less than 2.9 YPC as well. Mark Ingram: Game Logs at NFL.com Not sure what you mean by "Some times we see what we want to see."? You didn't notice Ingram's sub par performance for 2 and a half years? After the first quarter of this season, Sproles was averaging 4.2 yards per carry Thomas was averaging 3.4 yards per carry And Ingram who had already missed two games due to injury by that point was averaging 1.8 yards per carry. When was his first good game this season? Week 10 against the Cowboys? In 2011 and 2012 Ingram averaged 3.9 yards per carry Sproles and Thomas averaged 5.9 and 4.8 yards per carry respectively. Hard to miss that kind of contrast. Like I said, it's great that he's been playing great lately and everyone's really happy about it, and we're all hoping he's the next Adrian Peterson but anyone that questioned his ability early in the season had good reason to do so. None of us wanted to see it but it was hard not to.

01-10-2014, 07:55 PM	#18
Saintaintso 500th Post Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 937	Re: Mark Ingram never lost faith and teammates never gave up on him He's on fire now ... What happened yesterday don't matter ... Heck he's better on the road than Brees is ...
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01-10-2014, 08:26 PM	#20
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Mark Ingram never lost faith and teammates never gave up on him Originally Posted by Danno Too bad numerous so called fans did. You have to admit that he really did nothing for anyone to say he looked good with the overall body of work he did. Up until a few weeks ago he has started to show what he can do. I'm o.k with him being a late bloomer as long as he keeps bloosoming so to speak but he has to keep it up. His draft status #28 in the first round was pretty high and to give below average # , you get what I'm saying.

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