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AllSaints 01-11-2014 09:38 PM

What I will take from 13-14 Season
 
Negatives

Brees - on road not good

Jimmy - Contact on line he is done

Strief - TERRIBLE

Jenkins - Lower shoulder tackles im tired of them...

Positives

D-line - Awesome

Secondary Starters Next Year - Bush KV

Robinson RB Ingram RB - 2 headed monster !

Joe Morgan and Stills ! ! ! ! !

K Major 01-11-2014 09:53 PM

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Don't forget P Robinson will be back as well. Corey White might be better suited in nickel packages.

|Mitch| 01-11-2014 09:55 PM

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POSITIVE:

We may have found our franchise LT, in an unknown rookie from a small school :bng:

WhoDat!656 01-11-2014 10:02 PM

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If the Saints don't pay him, there are 31 other teams that will!

If Graham becomes a FA, the Failclowns will jump at the chance to sign him!

saintsfan1976 01-11-2014 10:03 PM

Re: What I will take from 13-14 Season
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AllSaints (Post 572564)
Negatives

Brees - on road not good

Jimmy - Contact on line he is done

Strief - TERRIBLE

Jenkins - Lower shoulder tackles im tired of them...

Positives

D-line - Awesome

Secondary Starters Next Year - Bush KV

Robinson RB Ingram RB - 2 headed monster !

Joe Morgan and Stills ! ! ! ! !


Brees. I'll give you.

Jimmy... OK

Streif did better than most RT in the nfl

Jenkins is a miscast that hasn't made the jump

D line is solid.

Love bush attitude and Kv has the moxie

Still need depth at DB and OL

|Mitch| 01-11-2014 10:04 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 (Post 572595)
If the Saints don't pay him, there are 31 other teams that will!

If Graham becomes a FA, the Failclowns will jump at the chance to sign him!

Graham will either be resigned or tagged, he's staying a Saint at least one more year

saintsfan1976 01-11-2014 10:06 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 572601)
Graham will either be resigned or tagged, he's staying a Saint at least one more year

I vote we DON'T tag a friggin Tight End.

|Mitch| 01-11-2014 10:07 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 572602)
I vote we DON'T tag a friggin Tight End.

well if they don't get a long term worked out, would you rather him test free agency?

saintsfan1976 01-11-2014 10:09 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 572603)
well if they don't get a long term worked out, would you rather him test free agency?

100% YES

halloween 65 01-11-2014 10:11 PM

Re: What I will take from 13-14 Season
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 (Post 572595)
If the Saints don't pay him, there are 31 other teams that will!

If Graham becomes a FA, the Failclowns will jump at the chance to sign him!

Yes someone will, but after watching tape on him every DC on 31 teams will put a physical CB or Safety on him and he want be much of a factor if any. He wants the money he needs to show up every game and make an impact or settle for much less or what he is actually worth. I would not break the bank for him he has a lot of improving to do. I'm not saying he can't improve in those areas but I can't see it overnight.

lumm0x 01-11-2014 10:23 PM

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Transition tag him. Let the market set his price and we have first right of refusal.

WhoDatFan26 01-11-2014 10:29 PM

Re: What I will take from 13-14 Season
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 572586)
POSITIVE:

We may have found our franchise LT, in an unknown rookie from a small school :bng:

Armstead will definitely be the starting LT next season. Did he give up a sack or a pressure today?

WhoDatFan26 01-11-2014 10:31 PM

Re: What I will take from 13-14 Season
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 572609)
100% YES

In one word: No. Dude you can't lose what 80+ catches, 1,200 yrds and 16 TD's and hope to replicate it.

Utah_Saint 01-11-2014 10:41 PM

Re: What I will take from 13-14 Season
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by halloween 65 (Post 572613)
Yes someone will, but after watching tape on him every DC on 31 teams will put a physical CB or Safety on him and he want be much of a factor if any. He wants the money he needs to show up every game and make an impact or settle for much less or what he is actually worth. I would not break the bank for him he has a lot of improving to do. I'm not saying he can't improve in those areas but I can't see it overnight.

Teams try to muscle Graham, this isn't something that's just started happening, they've been doing that to him for a couple years now. That was one of the knocks against him when he and Gronk were competing, he was more athletic with better hands but Gronc was tougher and stronger. There's only a few corners and safetys in the league that can keep Graham clamped down for an entire game. You need someone that's big enough to push him around and yet fast enough to keep up with him when he gets by. And the team also has to have a second big defensive back that can cover Colston.

It doesn't happen often though, he's still got the best receiving numbers of any TE in the league. I think what's been happening this year is the guys around him aren't stepping up when he's bracketed. In some games, we're missing that other option.

Just my opinion.

nycsaintfan 01-11-2014 11:32 PM

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I think a lot of you are over reacting to Graham and the game he just had today. I'll agree that he was never the same after the performance in New England. However, as much as I love Marques Colston I think we are lacking a true number one receiver. I still think there is a place for Colston on this team. Morgan, Stills and Toon are still unproven and both Moore and Meachum are more than likely on the way out. A part of me is still willing to see if Moore has something left, as he always was a reliable receiver. Injuries IMO really hurt his season.

Graham is one of those match up nightmares that works well in this offense. I think we are a true impact receiver away from maybe taking a Aqib Talib or Richard Sherman off him in coverage.

We need more guys that can create separation both at the line of scrimmage and down field. We just don't have that right now.

Boutte 01-11-2014 11:39 PM

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16 touch downs. He'll get his money.


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