Ingram,Robinson or Thomas

SaintsBro · 01-13-2014, 10:41 AM

Unfortunately with the Brees situation we need not just a youth movement, but a cheap movement.... We desperately need picks right now. We need to fill the ranks with hungry, fast, young guys at league minimum, who are looking to make their mark with the Saints, then get their payday elsewhere....just like we had in 2006 - 2008-2009.

The double whammy hamstring of the Bountygate/Ingram loss of picks, plus continually picking from the bottom of the deck (the curse of being consistently good) has really affected this team's ability to re-up and reload and stay young. Age is catching up with us. As long as we get something for them (not just throwing them in the trash to be left on the curb) I could see Sproles or Thomas OR Ingram being dealt. Plain and simple, we need picks that can play and be starters a year from now, going forward.

TheOak · 01-13-2014, 11:17 AM

Originally Posted by SaintsBro

Unfortunately with the Brees situation we need not just a youth movement, but a cheap movement.... We desperately need picks right now. We need to fill the ranks with hungry, fast, young guys at league minimum, who are looking to make their mark with the Saints, then get their payday elsewhere....just like we had in 2006 - 2008-2009.

The double whammy hamstring of the Bountygate/Ingram loss of picks, plus continually picking from the bottom of the deck (the curse of being consistently good) has really affected this team's ability to re-up and reload and stay young. Age is catching up with us. As long as we get something for them (not just throwing them in the trash to be left on the curb) I could see Sproles or Thomas OR Ingram being dealt. Plain and simple, we need picks that can play and be starters a year from now, going forward.

Agreed but below 2nd round picks are normally projects and its a toss up on whether they are ready to start or not their rookie year.

In 2014 we have all of our 1-6 Draft picks until round 7. Haralson made the roster so SF gets that one.
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Jack Vegas · 01-13-2014, 12:03 PM

I like the way Ingram played down the stretch, but is he a multi-dimensional back? Observation says no. I think you could draft Jeremy Hill from LSU to be the bruiser/bellcow back for this offense and get the same production at 1/3 the cost. This would also lighten PT's load and push him more into a Sproles-type role so you can let Sproles go as well. Go into next season with Thomas/Robinson/Hill (or somebody very much like him) at running back would be ideal and save you a ton of money.

TheOak · 01-13-2014, 12:07 PM

Sproles is special, so he has special uses.... That said I would rather not see a RB returning punts and kick offs. Only 3 of the top 30 return guys in the NFL are RBs.

Jack Vegas · 01-13-2014, 12:10 PM

That's probalby just my PT bias speaking since he is one of my favorites. I could see him getting traded and keeping Sproles instead as well. I agree Sproles time as a return man should be over.

|Mitch| · 01-13-2014, 12:49 PM

Originally Posted by Jack Vegas

I could see him getting traded and keeping Sproles instead as well.

PT is pushing 30, window for a trade is probably already closed... 30 seems to be the no-man land when it comes to running backs

The Dude · 01-13-2014, 07:48 PM

I think Ingram is the odd man out. Yes he did well in playoffs but he was basically invisible for 3 years prior. I don't think the FO will make a knee jerk decision based on just a couple of games and let PT or Sproles go. I think KRob is the future. He is cheap and can be every bit as effective as Ingram and the FO absolutely gush over this guy. We need PT for the screen and we need Sproles to be Sproles. I really do hope Ingram finds a place and does very well, but he is not a good fit for our offense.

K Major · 01-13-2014, 07:58 PM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

PT is pushing 30, window for a trade is probably already closed... 30 seems to be the no-man land when it comes to running backs

+1.

the-commish · 01-14-2014, 02:24 PM

Originally Posted by dueceloose

Khiry.. Mixture of PT and Ingram. I love how he always puts his hand down to continue the run. All he needs is screen skills and pass blocking.

That's all? Those skills can be learned, but it's not like you can snap your fingers and it's done.

Khiry has some work ahead of him, but I like what i've seen from him so far.

BIGEASY504 · 01-14-2014, 08:15 PM

Originally Posted by lsutigerfan

Khiry. love the comparison to Curtis Martin.

Yes I caught that comparison too, Parcells should know. I think Coach may have learned his lesson with Ivory and Khiry should lead off and set the tone

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SaintsBro Site Donor Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: in line with my ridiculous CLEAR PLASTIC BAG Posts: 3,650 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Ingram,Robinson or Thomas Unfortunately with the Brees situation we need not just a youth movement, but a cheap movement.... We desperately need picks right now. We need to fill the ranks with hungry, fast, young guys at league minimum, who are looking to make their mark with the Saints, then get their payday elsewhere....just like we had in 2006 - 2008-2009. The double whammy hamstring of the Bountygate/Ingram loss of picks, plus continually picking from the bottom of the deck (the curse of being consistently good) has really affected this team's ability to re-up and reload and stay young. Age is catching up with us. As long as we get something for them (not just throwing them in the trash to be left on the curb) I could see Sproles or Thomas OR Ingram being dealt. Plain and simple, we need picks that can play and be starters a year from now, going forward.

01-13-2014, 11:17 AM	#42
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 18,978	Re: Ingram,Robinson or Thomas Originally Posted by SaintsBro Unfortunately with the Brees situation we need not just a youth movement, but a cheap movement.... We desperately need picks right now. We need to fill the ranks with hungry, fast, young guys at league minimum, who are looking to make their mark with the Saints, then get their payday elsewhere....just like we had in 2006 - 2008-2009. The double whammy hamstring of the Bountygate/Ingram loss of picks, plus continually picking from the bottom of the deck (the curse of being consistently good) has really affected this team's ability to re-up and reload and stay young. Age is catching up with us. As long as we get something for them (not just throwing them in the trash to be left on the curb) I could see Sproles or Thomas OR Ingram being dealt. Plain and simple, we need picks that can play and be starters a year from now, going forward. Agreed but below 2nd round picks are normally projects and its a toss up on whether they are ready to start or not their rookie year. In 2014 we have all of our 1-6 Draft picks until round 7. Haralson made the roster so SF gets that one. 2014 NFL Draft Pick Pending Transactions

01-13-2014, 12:03 PM	#43
Jack Vegas 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 2,254	Re: Ingram,Robinson or Thomas I like the way Ingram played down the stretch, but is he a multi-dimensional back? Observation says no. I think you could draft Jeremy Hill from LSU to be the bruiser/bellcow back for this offense and get the same production at 1/3 the cost. This would also lighten PT's load and push him more into a Sproles-type role so you can let Sproles go as well. Go into next season with Thomas/Robinson/Hill (or somebody very much like him) at running back would be ideal and save you a ton of money.
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TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 18,978	Re: Ingram,Robinson or Thomas Sproles is special, so he has special uses.... That said I would rather not see a RB returning punts and kick offs. Only 3 of the top 30 return guys in the NFL are RBs.

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Jack Vegas 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 2,254	Re: Ingram,Robinson or Thomas That's probalby just my PT bias speaking since he is one of my favorites. I could see him getting traded and keeping Sproles instead as well. I agree Sproles time as a return man should be over.
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01-13-2014, 12:49 PM	#46
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: Ingram,Robinson or Thomas Originally Posted by Jack Vegas I could see him getting traded and keeping Sproles instead as well. PT is pushing 30, window for a trade is probably already closed... 30 seems to be the no-man land when it comes to running backs K Major likes this.

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The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,006	Re: Ingram,Robinson or Thomas I think Ingram is the odd man out. Yes he did well in playoffs but he was basically invisible for 3 years prior. I don't think the FO will make a knee jerk decision based on just a couple of games and let PT or Sproles go. I think KRob is the future. He is cheap and can be every bit as effective as Ingram and the FO absolutely gush over this guy. We need PT for the screen and we need Sproles to be Sproles. I really do hope Ingram finds a place and does very well, but he is not a good fit for our offense.
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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,035 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Ingram,Robinson or Thomas Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| PT is pushing 30, window for a trade is probably already closed... 30 seems to be the no-man land when it comes to running backs +1.

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the-commish Longtime WhoDat Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Henderson, NV Posts: 529	Re: Ingram,Robinson or Thomas Originally Posted by dueceloose Khiry.. Mixture of PT and Ingram. I love how he always puts his hand down to continue the run. All he needs is screen skills and pass blocking. That's all? Those skills can be learned, but it's not like you can snap your fingers and it's done. Khiry has some work ahead of him, but I like what i've seen from him so far.

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BIGEASY504 100th Post Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 487	Re: Ingram,Robinson or Thomas Originally Posted by lsutigerfan Khiry. love the comparison to Curtis Martin. Yes I caught that comparison too, Parcells should know. I think Coach may have learned his lesson with Ivory and Khiry should lead off and set the tone
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