Terron Armstead

TheOak · 01-15-2014, 09:21 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Linebackers running past Strief on our screens and Payton ver. Bubble routes before he could turn and initiate blocks is still in my mind...

That and that Ahmad Brooks hit...

Strief is a lot better pass blocker than a run blocker.

Different animals, different techniques and skill sets required, Brown is the opposite..... Better run blocker than pass blocker.

NonieT · 01-15-2014, 09:28 AM

Originally Posted by TheOak

Strief is a lot better pass blocker than a run blocker.

Different animals, different techniques and skill sets required, Brown is the opposite..... Better run blocker than pass blocker.

Please, Brown is not a good run blocker.

TheOak · 01-15-2014, 09:31 AM

Originally Posted by NonieT

Please, Brown is not a good run blocker.

Learn to read more and interpret less.

I said Brown was better at run blocking than pass blocking. Nothing more, nothing less.

Stats, grades, all prove that.

jeanpierre · 01-15-2014, 12:11 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

Strief is a lot better pass blocker than a run blocker.

Different animals, different techniques and skill sets required, Brown is the opposite..... Better run blocker than pass blocker.

The Screen Passes he's looked lost and slow against the better defenses...

TheOak · 01-15-2014, 12:30 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

The Screen Passes he's looked lost and slow against the better defenses...

Because he was. Same principle as zone run blocking which he didn't fair well with. Brown, Strief..... Built for down hill blocking... Not fleet footed angle based zone or screen blocking.

In standard pass blocking the first step is back/lateral and it's a recoiling or loading of the body, for run or screen it's forward or angular exploding through.

For run blocking you want to hit him hard, exploding up and through the defender pushing back to the second level. In passing your more of a speed bump slowing him down long enough to get the pass off, eventually he will get there.

Schmohams · 01-15-2014, 01:17 PM

I bet Coach Payton sat down with the front office and said quality over quantity, because that is what we got. Beautiful UDFA class and besides Rufus, all of the drafted rookies are playing at the NFL level.

The Dude · 01-15-2014, 09:33 PM

Our run game was instantly better when he took over and Watson and Hill were in as tight ends.

Boutte · 01-16-2014, 06:54 AM

The only reason we should think about drafting a RT is that Strief is getting older and it would wise to start grooming his replacement.

Streif was the of that unit this year. Injuries and poor LT play (in some games.) made the line look a lot worse than it really is.

TheOak · 01-16-2014, 07:15 AM

Originally Posted by Boutte

The only reason we should think about drafting a RT is that Strief is getting older and it would wise to start grooming his replacement.

Streif was the of that unit this year. Injuries and poor LT play (in some games.) made the line look a lot worse than it really is.

Sorry, I'm not very satisfied with the status quo. We are 1-2 pieces away from having a shut down defense when everyone is healthy. All of our offensive woes can in some part be traced to the offensive line and in no way will I believe it's ALL on Brown.

We have reached a point where getting the job done doesn't get the job done. We need to upgrade some pieces and Strief is one.

Utah_Saint · 01-16-2014, 09:00 AM

The Saints might not get a choice in the matter. Streif is a free agent and after he may get offers higher than the Saints can afford.

01-15-2014, 09:21 AM	#41
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 18,978	Re: Terron Armstead Originally Posted by jeanpierre Linebackers running past Strief on our screens and Payton ver. Bubble routes before he could turn and initiate blocks is still in my mind... That and that Ahmad Brooks hit... Strief is a lot better pass blocker than a run blocker. Different animals, different techniques and skill sets required, Brown is the opposite..... Better run blocker than pass blocker.

01-15-2014, 09:28 AM	#42
NonieT 500th Post Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 921	Re: Terron Armstead Originally Posted by TheOak Strief is a lot better pass blocker than a run blocker. Different animals, different techniques and skill sets required, Brown is the opposite..... Better run blocker than pass blocker. Please, Brown is not a good run blocker.
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01-15-2014, 09:31 AM	#43
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 18,978	Terron Armstead Originally Posted by NonieT Please, Brown is not a good run blocker. Learn to read more and interpret less. I said Brown was better at run blocking than pass blocking. Nothing more, nothing less. Stats, grades, all prove that.
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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Terron Armstead Originally Posted by TheOak Strief is a lot better pass blocker than a run blocker. Different animals, different techniques and skill sets required, Brown is the opposite..... Better run blocker than pass blocker. The Screen Passes he's looked lost and slow against the better defenses...

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TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 18,978	Re: Terron Armstead Originally Posted by jeanpierre The Screen Passes he's looked lost and slow against the better defenses... Because he was. Same principle as zone run blocking which he didn't fair well with. Brown, Strief..... Built for down hill blocking... Not fleet footed angle based zone or screen blocking. In standard pass blocking the first step is back/lateral and it's a recoiling or loading of the body, for run or screen it's forward or angular exploding through. For run blocking you want to hit him hard, exploding up and through the defender pushing back to the second level. In passing your more of a speed bump slowing him down long enough to get the pass off, eventually he will get there.
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Boutte Site Donor Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Belle Chasse Posts: 1,701	Re: Terron Armstead The only reason we should think about drafting a RT is that Strief is getting older and it would wise to start grooming his replacement. Streif was the of that unit this year. Injuries and poor LT play (in some games.) made the line look a lot worse than it really is.

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TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 18,978	Re: Terron Armstead Originally Posted by Boutte The only reason we should think about drafting a RT is that Strief is getting older and it would wise to start grooming his replacement. Streif was the of that unit this year. Injuries and poor LT play (in some games.) made the line look a lot worse than it really is. Sorry, I'm not very satisfied with the status quo. We are 1-2 pieces away from having a shut down defense when everyone is healthy. All of our offensive woes can in some part be traced to the offensive line and in no way will I believe it's ALL on Brown. We have reached a point where getting the job done doesn't get the job done. We need to upgrade some pieces and Strief is one.

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Utah_Saint Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 3,521	Re: Terron Armstead The Saints might not get a choice in the matter. Streif is a free agent and after he may get offers higher than the Saints can afford.

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