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Sarik 01-12-2014 06:59 PM

Corey White
 
Not sure what kind of response i will get from this post, but He has to start packing or at the very least push him further down the depth chart. Im not the guy that usually calls for heads when a bad play is made, but I have consistently watched this kid disappoint all year long. He has no ability to locate or play the ball once its in the air and i can only recall one time that i have seen instincts like that from him(atlanta falcons game last season when he pulled the INT down from a no name wr). He was beat repeatedly this season by any WR he was placed on, good or bad. Best example was again playing the falcons in week 12 when he faced off against a little known undrafted Darius Johnson that had his number all night. The jumpball play to Doug baldwin this week was just ridiculous and could have been a difference
Maker late in the game. Corey never turned around or bothered to even locate the ball even after his comments this week about "making more plays when the opportunity is there." We have some decisions to make this off season with Jimmy, Malcolm, Zach, Charles, Parys, Brian, etc. I'd love to sign a great corner(Alterraun Verner) to pair with Keenan for the future but i just dont see alot happening with the financial issues we'll have this off season. CB, OL, LB are definitive needs this draft. Can i get some input on anyones thoughts? Still Whodat all day guys. Cant wait for next year once this Defense has a whole season under their belts of Robs scheme

saintsfan1976 01-12-2014 07:02 PM

Re: Corey White
 
Above average Nickel DB. Average cover corner.

ScottF 01-12-2014 07:08 PM

Re: Corey White
 
basically he is a rookie thrown in the fire (10 starts)
I don't think he beats out a healthy Greer or Robinson, but he adds depth

blackangold 01-12-2014 07:09 PM

Re: Corey White
 
White will be a great CB for us. All his problems come from not turning to see the ball. He is afraid to take his eyes off of the WR. That issue can be coached though, trust me he has the makings of a great CB.

saintsfan1976 01-12-2014 07:09 PM

Re: Corey White
 
I think Corey White will be fine. I like his style of play.

jeanpierre 01-12-2014 07:18 PM

Re: Corey White
 
He'll get better; and you know what? he was also scouted as a safety; so he is flexible...

Showtime5 01-12-2014 07:21 PM

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I love Corey White personally. he is very young. Give him a chance

DISPLACEDFAN 01-12-2014 07:28 PM

Re: Corey White
 
I've been saying he was bad for weeks. You can't tell people on this site anything critical about the team or your considered to be a pessimistic fan but fact is The guy is just awful.

Sarik 01-12-2014 07:32 PM

Re: Corey White
 
Definitely better as a Safety but even at that the kid has to learn to turn around and locate the ball or it wont matter. Needs to follow keenan around all off season and soak up all he can.

SaintLeonard 01-12-2014 07:41 PM

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He has some things to improve on for sure, but his potential is through the roof.

Utah_Saint 01-12-2014 08:34 PM

Re: Corey White
 
I hope he works out. He's a thumper. Along with Bush and Vaccaro on the field, opposing receivers might start making "business decisions" when thinking about make a catch.

foreverfan 01-12-2014 08:39 PM

Re: Corey White
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sarik (Post 573125)
Definitely better as a Safety but even at that the kid has to learn to turn around and locate the ball or it wont matter. Needs to follow keenan around all off season...

And carry his jock strap. :o

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NoZone504 01-12-2014 08:40 PM

Re: Corey White
 
Reminds me of Jason David

Jack Vegas 01-12-2014 08:43 PM

Re: Corey White
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DISPLACEDFAN (Post 573120)
I've been saying he was bad for weeks. You can't tell people on this site anything critical about the team or your considered to be a pessimistic fan but fact is The guy is just awful.

What a bunch of horse crap. If you think White played poorly this year you just don't know very much about football. Period. I have a few criticisms about this team but Corey White is definitely NOT one of them.

|Mitch| 01-12-2014 08:47 PM

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I guess some people don't realize, he wasn't meant to be the starter this season... :rolleyes:

At the start, he was penciled in as a Nickel CB. Robinson and Lewis were the starters in preseason, Greer had to step in and even then White had to step into a starting role.

I'd say he did rather well for the abrupt situation he was thrown into.

NoZone504 01-12-2014 08:49 PM

Re: Corey White
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack Vegas (Post 573159)
What a bunch of horse crap. If you think White played poorly this year you just don't know very much about football. Period. I have a few criticisms about this team but Corey White is definitely NOT one of them.

His back is turned too much...It's routes he is horrible at covering and he's repeatedly hit with the same routes.He is a good 4th corner.

halloween 65 01-12-2014 08:54 PM

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Being thrown into the fire was not bad for him, only will make him better. Wait and watch how much better he plays the nickel next season. For him being thrust into the #2 cb position with very little help from the safety position says a lot. Just think if we had a ball-hawking FS to help out.

SaintLeonard 01-12-2014 08:57 PM

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I may be in the minority, but I hope we continue with White as a #2 CB opposite of Lewis.

He was not bad at all this season. And he will only improve.

Jack Vegas 01-12-2014 09:18 PM

Re: Corey White
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by NoZone504 (Post 573161)
His back is turned too much...It's routes he is horrible at covering and he's repeatedly hit with the same routes.He is a good 4th corner.

The hell with that, he was a good #2 corner after he got his feet under him. If you guys want a scapegoat on the defense, take a look at the safety play from Harper/Jenkins, the total lack of pass rush or anything else from Galette and the crappy terrible offense that kept the defense on the field too much, not a guy like Corey White who stepped into a difficult situation and played really, really well.

saintsfan1976 01-12-2014 09:24 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DISPLACEDFAN (Post 573120)
I've been saying he was bad for weeks. You can't tell people on this site anything critical about the team or your considered to be a pessimistic fan but fact is The guy is just awful.


Got any proof or are you just spewing whatever thoughts come to mind?

Sarik 01-12-2014 09:30 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by NoZone504 (Post 573161)
His back is turned too much...It's routes he is horrible at covering and he's repeatedly hit with the same routes.He is a good 4th corner.

Exactly. Thank you for seeing the same, thats my main issue with him. I pointed out he needs to be much further down the depth chart. Nothin more than a nickel or dime corner, that is all. Its only my opinion, which im entitled to, not meant to start an argument guys, sorry for any misunderstanding. i understand others may see him different or have a hard on for the guy, and i definitely see the talent, i do...but only as a safety, nickel or dime, nothin more...but even if he played the nickel or dime the problem still remains that the kid has got to learn to turn around and play the ball. And playing the #2 corner spot doesnt change the fact that he was consistently beat by a very unimpressive, Undrafted Darius Johnson...please watch the tape. Too often is he concerned with focusing on the man after he's been beat downfield. Safety would best suit him so he isnt playing with his back to the ball so often, or we'd think haha. Fun stuff

Sarik 01-12-2014 09:39 PM

Re: Corey White
 
Lol lack of pass rush from Junior Gallete??? Are you kidding me? The man had 12 sacks in his first year as a true starter. What more do you want from him? His job is to get to the quarterback...him and cam did a damn good job of that this year. I guess thats not good enough for an Undrafted player out of stillman haha. And malcolm was playing damn good early in the year, but did fall of a bit as the season went on. Even as the nickel, before jabari got injured in week 11 against san fran, corey white was no where near great like you're making him out to be. I understand the frustration of getting knocked out of the playoffs man...we're in it together. Whodat

SaintLeonard 01-12-2014 09:43 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sarik (Post 573176)
Lol lack of pass rush from Junior Gallete??? Are you kidding me? The man had 12 sacks in his first year as a true starter. What more do you want from him? His job is to get to the quarterback...him and cam did a damn good job of that this year. I guess thats not good enough for an Undrafted player out of stillman haha. And malcolm was playing damn good early in the year, but did fall of a bit as the season went on. Even as the nickel, before jabari got injured in week 11 against san fran, corey white was no where near great like you're making him out to be. I understand the frustration of getting knocked out of the playoffs man...we're in it together. Whodat

I see where he's coming from with that comment. Galette had his sacks in bunches. Some games, he was literally unstoppable and would get like 2 or 3 sacks. Other games, he was a no show on the stat sheet.

He has all the tools to become an elite pass rusher, but I want to see more consistency out of him.

Sarik 01-12-2014 09:51 PM

Re: Corey White
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack Vegas (Post 573166)
The hell with that, he was a good #2 corner after he got his feet under him. If you guys want a scapegoat on the defense, take a look at the safety play from Harper/Jenkins, the total lack of pass rush or anything else from Galette and the crappy terrible offense that kept the defense on the field too much, not a guy like Corey White who stepped into a difficult situation and played really, really well.

Agreed on the offense and harper though my man.
Who would have thought that our Defense would be the better unit this year especially in the post season...drew didnt really show up in the post season, but i guess not having any help from the offensive line at times doesnt help any. And harper is easily expendable, i think we all know and agree on that. We still need to either draft a cb or somehow loomis needs to use his wizard powers and sign one this off season, but i cant see that with the other issues we have(graham gettin paid) bc white is a nickel at best. Ball hawking FS would be great, i was hoping theyd go vaccaro and tyrann last year, can u imagine that instinctive safety tandem for years to come? Wishful thinkin, o well. Good stuff...lot of good things to take away from this season nonetheless

blackangold 01-12-2014 09:53 PM

Re: Corey White
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by NoZone504 (Post 573157)
Reminds me of Jason David

Not even close....

It makes me wonder if you (those that think like that) were even around to see David or good ole highway 22 play... they were awful. White has a bright future.

Sarik 01-12-2014 10:00 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SaintLeonard (Post 573178)
I see where he's coming from with that comment. Galette had his sacks in bunches. Some games, he was literally unstoppable and would get like 2 or 3 sacks. Other games, he was a no show on the stat sheet.

He has all the tools to become an elite pass rusher, but I want to see more consistency out of him.

That can be said for over half of the league man(i.e. Mo Wilkerson, Watt, Jordan, Greg hardy, Mario Williams, Cameron Wake,
John abraham, terrell suggs) and those are pro bowl DEs/LBs. You forget he was Constantly placed on the line with his hand in the dirt as a 4-3 end bc of personnel and injuries. Thats not his natural position, as he's better suited as
a 3-4 olb, we all know that. as we transition into an actual 3-4 and get another year in rob's scheme i believe that line can be muuch better. Cant wait to see what they can do to top this year

DISPLACEDFAN 01-12-2014 10:27 PM

Re: Corey White
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 573170)
Got any proof or are you just spewing whatever thoughts come to mind?

Even if I was able to put a video clip full which wouldn't be very hard to do. You guys would have a excuse as to why he was getting burned.so why bother? You guys like the kid that's fine but I don't I see him playing catch up all the time, back turned never looking for the ball, guys blowing past him.

Show me some Proof that he his a good corner

Jack Vegas 01-12-2014 11:55 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DISPLACEDFAN (Post 573188)
Even if I was able to put a video clip full which wouldn't be very hard to do. You guys would have a excuse as to why he was getting burned.so why bother? You guys like the kid that's fine but I don't I see him playing catch up all the time, back turned never looking for the ball, guys blowing past him.

Show me some Proof that he his a good corner

We had the #2 pass defense in the NFL. And we were better statistically after Greer went down and White became the starter. That proof enough for you?

I still take Greer or a healthy Pat Robinson over himright now. But saying he played poorly on the whole shows a distinct lack of understanding about the game. Sorry to be harsh but that is the truth.

Jack Vegas 01-12-2014 11:59 PM

Re: Corey White
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sarik (Post 573176)
Lol lack of pass rush from Junior Gallete??? Are you kidding me? The man had 12 sacks in his first year as a true starter. What more do you want from him? His job is to get to the quarterback...him and cam did a damn good job of that this year. I guess thats not good enough for an Undrafted player out of stillman haha. And malcolm was playing damn good early in the year, but did fall of a bit as the season went on. Even as the nickel, before jabari got injured in week 11 against san fran, corey white was no where near great like you're making him out to be. I understand the frustration of getting knocked out of the playoffs man...we're in it together. Whodat

I was referring to late season and postseason where Galette did nothing. But the blame for those late season losses and the playoff loss rests entirely on the offense. It is silly to call out anybody on the defense at this point since they carried the team all season.

NoZone504 01-13-2014 12:09 AM

Re: Corey White
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by blackangold (Post 573181)
Not even close....

It makes me wonder if you (those that think like that) were even around to see David or good ole highway 22 play... they were awful. White has a bright future.

The one thing him and David have in common is that I see the back of his Jersey too much...Baldwins back pedaling looking straight up and you would think his (White)potential would tell him hey this guys setting up to catch the ball..I may need to find the ball and make a play for once....Like I said 4th corner..Maybe 3Rd if that makes you feel better.

lumm0x 01-13-2014 12:18 AM

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For a late round pick he is better than we should expect. I think he can be a solid nickel corner. His tackling is one of his admirable qualities. He struggles when the ball is in the air in a lot of aspects. But definitely not a write off player.

NoZone504 01-13-2014 12:22 AM

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I'm not saying he can't grow..but when you know they coming at you and you still don't stop it...It has to be fixed..Roman Harper is another story... Corey White has to make the plays Tracy Porter made for this team in clutch moments before you diss a Nfcc and SB hero.

mony_b22 01-13-2014 01:23 AM

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Here's my view. Jason David was awful. Let's not forget where we were. Also in the pecking order white would have been a sub package dime back. So while we calling this guy bad I'm not going say he is awful. I saw an avg cb who was a mixed bag. Did good and bad which should be expected by a guy who goes from playing 20 snaps to 50 over night. And that isn't being a homer. He was a depth guy who was forced to start. He has a place in the league and on this team.

TheOak 01-13-2014 07:32 AM

Re: Corey White
 
He played because of injuries.. Not because he was anyone's first choice.

jeanpierre 01-13-2014 08:16 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lumm0x (Post 573205)
For a late round pick he is better than we should expect. I think he can be a solid nickel corner. His tackling is one of his admirable qualities. He struggles when the ball is in the air in a lot of aspects. But definitely not a write off player.

There you geaux...

NoZone504 01-13-2014 09:22 AM

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But everyone can agree Corey White needs to improve at locating the ball..If not he's another liability.I don't wanna hear about what round we got him..It's plays you HAVE to make.Dominick Hixon..That one play cost us Homefield and,who didn't locate the ball..Improve or move on..

halloween 65 01-13-2014 09:35 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by NoZone504 (Post 573271)
But everyone can agree Corey White needs to improve at locating the ball..If not he's another liability.I don't wanna hear about what round we got him..It's plays you HAVE to make.Dominick Hixon..That one play cost us Homefield and,who didn't locate the ball..Improve or move on..

Truethfully, that was on Ryan calling the blitz leaving him on an island, he could have givin' him help over the top. White is really good in the slot but needs improvement as a #2. I 'm sure he has learned alot this year and will be a better player next season. I remember the look in his eyes when he took over the #2, a deer in the headlights, now not so much. Can he improve? I think so!!

TheOak 01-13-2014 10:01 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by halloween 65 (Post 573274)
Truethfully, that was on Ryan calling the blitz leaving him on an island, he could have givin' him help over the top. White is really good in the slot but needs improvement as a #2. I 'm sure he has learned alot this year and will be a better player next season. I remember the look in his eyes when he took over the #2, a deer in the headlights, now not so much. Can he improve? I think so!!

There is a lot of improvement that he can make. Corey White wasn't drafted to start, he was drafted in the 5th round in 2012 and the only reason he has started is because of injury. White has not had 2 seasons in the same defensive scheme in the NFL. Give him time.

Look at Junior Gallette, it has taken him 4 unimpressive years to start but once he had the time under his belt he is a pillar of our defense.

If Ryan Griffin had been told in week 5 " Drew is hurt" your in the drivers seat, he would have preformed as well as Corey White did this season, which is no reason to call for their heads.

halloween 65 01-13-2014 10:55 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 573284)
There is a lot of improvement that he can make. Corey White wasn't drafted to start, he was drafted in the 5th round in 2012 and the only reason he has started is because of injury. White has not had 2 seasons in the same defensive scheme in the NFL. Give him time.

Look at Junior Gallette, it has taken him 4 unimpressive years to start but once he had the time under his belt he is a pillar of our defense.

If Ryan Griffin had been told in week 5 " Drew is hurt" your in the drivers seat, he would have preformed as well as Corey White did this season, which is no reason to call for their heads.

I agree!! I like him, it could have been a lot worse!!

saintfan 01-13-2014 12:32 PM

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I think White has a short memory, and that's important for a CB.

This is me saying I think he's going to be a good player.


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