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Negotiate, Re-sign to Contract 56 62.92%
Franchise Tag (Exclusive) 17 19.10%
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Jimmy Graham Contract

this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by jeanpierre Criteria I'd start from... 1) League MVP 2) Quarterback Rating (more than one season, sorry Russell) 3) Portfolio (Wins, Losses, Championships, PostSeason) 1. League MVP is BS and you know that. The rest put Drew Brees ...

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Old 01-20-2014, 07:28 PM   #101
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Re: Jimmy Graham Contract

Originally Posted by jeanpierre View Post
Criteria I'd start from...

1) League MVP

2) Quarterback Rating (more than one season, sorry Russell)

3) Portfolio (Wins, Losses, Championships, PostSeason)

1. League MVP is BS and you know that.

The rest put Drew Brees up there with them.

When you say Manning.... You mean Eli right? Drew has as many rings as Payton.
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Old 01-20-2014, 08:23 PM   #102
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Surprised this is even a question.
I'm not surprised. I think it is a legitimate question. I'd like to have him back based solely on what he CAN do, but his apparent lack of toughness against physical secondaries makes him not worth the money he's likely to demand.

Make careful note that I am not saying he isn't worth a lot of money, just that he isn't worth what he's going to want. Whether or not he stays I have a feeling will rest squarely on how bad he wants to stay. If he brings his price down to something reasonable, then they won't simply let him go. But with the money tied to Brees, we can't pay top of the receiver market. Just top tight end market... Maybe.

If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.
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Old 01-21-2014, 06:58 AM   #103
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1. League MVP is BS and you know that.

The rest put Drew Brees up there with them.

When you say Manning.... You mean Eli right? Drew has as many rings as Payton.

League MVP means you get it done, week in, week out, so it's not BS...

And can you honestly tell me if a draft started today for one season Peyton Manning wouldn't be selected before those others with maybe Rodgers going first...

Love the Saints and am grateful for Brees, but he's 3a behind Manning, Rogers, Brady...

Brees' inopportune turnovers are what keep him from being the best in the league...
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Old 01-21-2014, 08:28 AM   #104
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League MVP means you get it done, week in, week out, so it's not BS...

And can you honestly tell me if a draft started today for one season Peyton Manning wouldn't be selected before those others with maybe Rodgers going first...

Love the Saints and am grateful for Brees, but he's 3a behind Manning, Rogers, Brady...

Brees' inopportune turnovers are what keep him from being the best in the league...
In 2009 Drew got it done week in and out for 20 weeks better than anyone else.... Including the Super Bowl against Manning. Beat them all in QBR, completion %, TDs... He was the phuckin MAN. Didn't get it, so yea.... It's BS. League MVP is awarded by "Sports Writers" and Payton Manning much like some fans is their love child. He did it with out an All Pro WR and TE (Which Manning had), and a Pro-Bowl WR which Manning had. Drew Brees did more with less and did it with a lot worse defense to boot.

In 2011 Drew Dominated all in TDs, Yards, and Comp%.

INTs Drew had 1 year with 22, Manning has had a 23 and 28 seasons...

So yea... If you want to call me a homer because I would take Drew Brees in a draft, then so be it. He has the highest potential cap of all of them. Payton Manning's numbers this season for me are asterisked with *AFC had only 1 team with a top 10 passing defense that he faced and that was Houston...

Drew faced Seattle X2, Carolina, San Francisco = 4 Top 10 Passing Defenses... and only 2 more INTs.
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Old 01-21-2014, 10:36 AM   #105
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Let the game begin.

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Old 01-21-2014, 12:16 PM   #106
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So which role players the Saints lose this offseason while Loomis plays contract ping pong with Condon, this clown reeks of Scott Boras
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Old 01-21-2014, 04:51 PM   #107
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Watching a replay of the 2005 Pro Bowl skills competition. Drew smoked every QB there on accuracy, even Manning.

Interesting comments.... Mind you Drew is wearing a Chargers jersey. Commentators: Drew coming off a near perfect season.... If Manning hadn't had the season he did Drew would have been MVP.
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Old 01-21-2014, 04:57 PM   #108
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I miss the skills competition. Drew Dat !
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Report: Saints GM will franchise Jimmy Graham as TE if needed - CBSSports.com

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Old 01-21-2014, 05:55 PM   #110
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Saints have leverage on this one...

And if he goes to the ProBowl as a Tight End, his agent will have an uphill battle to argue ProBowler points and All-Pro points when it's as a Tight End...

I'd offer six year deal total of 55mil with 20mil guaranteed...

Otherwise, tag with non-exclusive option and find two more weapons with the first round picks...
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