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Jimmy Graham Contract

this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by lee909 Maybe some good news. Adam Schefter reporting that the salary cap could be rising to $130ml. Lee... Saw the same thing on Yahoo! Sports Y! SPORTS...

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Old 02-20-2014, 10:49 AM   #181
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Originally Posted by lee909 View Post
Maybe some good news.

Adam Schefter reporting that the salary cap could be rising to $130ml.
Lee...

Saw the same thing on Yahoo! Sports

Y! SPORTS
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Old 02-20-2014, 11:17 AM   #182
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My point is he isn't "gone" yet.
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Old 02-20-2014, 11:18 AM   #183
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My point is he isn't "gone" yet.

You have nothing to trade
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Old 02-20-2014, 11:20 AM   #184
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Isn't it at $123ml now? That's not too much help.

For us 7m is huge brother.... Frikken huge! That 7m alone could be JG ft, save 4 players, add a very good FA after the shuffling is done.

7m is signing our drafts and paying for the practice squad.
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Old 02-20-2014, 12:56 PM   #185
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We're not actually gaining an additional $7 million from what we've been looking at so far this offseason - since all the cap figures up until now were based on an estimate of $126.4 million - when all those cuts were made last week the calculation of being $4 million under the cap meant we were at about 122 million.

It's just that the cap went up by a lot more than what was projected.

Last year it was $123 million, but we've been counting up our cap space based on the $126.4 million figure. But an extra 3.6 million is nothing to sneeze at.
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Old 02-20-2014, 01:00 PM   #186
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You can not trade that which you do not have.
If you franchise tag him you have exclusive rights, which means you can trade him. Actually you're only trading his rights to the other team, but it's essentially the same thing.

We basically did this with Chris Ivory last offseason. He was only an
ERFA and not franchised-tagged, but the overall idea is the same. In both cases we were the only team that had the right to sign the player to an NFL contract and as such had the right to trade those rights to whomever they wanted.
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Old 02-20-2014, 06:22 PM   #187
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If you franchise tag him you have exclusive rights, which means you can trade him. Actually you're only trading his rights to the other team, but it's essentially the same thing.

We basically did this with Chris Ivory last offseason. He was only an
ERFA and not franchised-tagged, but the overall idea is the same. In both cases we were the only team that had the right to sign the player to an NFL contract and as such had the right to trade those rights to whomever they wanted.
You can also Franchise Tag with a Non-Exclusive Option which I would be interested in gaining two first round draft picks to add to our selections over the next two seasons...

Ivory was tendered as a Restricted Free Agent, but I thought we should have gotten more out of New York than the fourth round pick they gave (we should've gotten a third rounder out right)...
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Old 02-21-2014, 04:34 PM   #188
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Increased salary cap helps New Orleans Saints - ESPN
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Old 02-21-2014, 04:48 PM   #189
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If you franchise tag him you have exclusive rights, which means you can trade him. Actually you're only trading his rights to the other team, but it's essentially the same thing.



We basically did this with Chris Ivory last offseason. He was only an

ERFA and not franchised-tagged, but the overall idea is the same. In both cases we were the only team that had the right to sign the player to an NFL contract and as such had the right to trade those rights to whomever they wanted.

Jimmy has not been tagged. Nothing to trade yet. You "can" do a lot of things, once he signs something, as of now, he has signed nothing.

Your more then welcome to trade your tagged player away if you want to. I wouldn't recommend it:
There is a huge difference between signing Ivory to a year deal then trading him, and exclusively tagging Jimmy Graham for one season and trading him.

*Franchise Tag is guaranteed money*

Remember what happens to guaranteed money when you trade a player? It turns into dead money.

If you tag Graham and then trade him he gets paid twice for 2014. The Saints also lose the FT money as dead and what ever pay is given to his traded for.

You can't name the last player that was franchise tagged and then traded in the same season can you?

There is a reason.

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We're not actually gaining an additional $7 million from what we've been looking at so far this offseason - since all the cap figures up until now were based on an estimate of $126.4 million - when all those cuts were made last week the calculation of being $4 million under the cap meant we were at about 122 million.



It's just that the cap went up by a lot more than what was projected.



Last year it was $123 million, but we've been counting up our cap space based on the $126.4 million figure. But an extra 3.6 million is nothing to sneeze at.

5.1m in space,

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/new-orleans-saints/cap-hit/
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