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Old 06-17-2014, 01:58 PM   #401
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Grievance hearing for Jimmy Graham of New Orleans Saints begins Tuesday - ESPN
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I'm at the point now where I feel like if we sign him then great, if not oh well now we have money to sign Jordan and won't have to cut our roster to the bone.
Jimmy should go for absolutely as much money as he can. I don't see how anyone could fault any player from trying to get the most they can.
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I'm at the point now where I feel like if we sign him then great, if not oh well now we have money to sign Jordan and won't have to cut our roster to the bone.
Jimmy should go for absolutely as much money as he can. I don't see how anyone could fault any player from trying to get the most they can.
We've got another month of this; this part is just leverage and movements to gain further leverage...

Don't fault Graham or his representation for wanting to maximize his contract; just don't want this fabricated BS in the press he's a WR not a TE, or the wah-wah Twitter Posts...

If he or agent has to make a statement, then just say -

"We've told the Saints how much we want..."

"Jimmy is a unique and special player..."

"JG has played well above his contract..."

"Mr. Graham wants to retire a Saint..."

Then just stay on message...

All this other clever lawyer/agent bullshinski is just (temporarily) losing fan support as most fans have enough wah-wah in their lives with which to deal...

It's not that my way is the right way, I just make the right way my way...
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6 years up to $11.2 mill.
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Old 06-18-2014, 09:32 AM   #406
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After Further Review: Saints familiar with Graham grievance - FOX 8 WVUE New Orleans News, Weather, Sports

The Saints are quite familiar with Burbank and have not had much success in dealing with him. He ruled against the club and in favor of Drew Brees in his arbitration in 2012. In that case, Burbank ruled it was Brees' second franchise tag, not his first. Thus, 2013 would've been the last time he could have been franchised. Ultimately, both sides reached an agreement that made Brees the highest paid quarterback in the NFL.

Burbank also ruled in favor of the NFL in the original punishment in the bounty scandal that was challenged by the NFLPA. In that case, Burbank ruled that commissioner Roger Goodell had the authority to discipline players in the bounty scandal. Former commissioner Paul Tagliabue eventually overturned all player suspensions in that case.
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After Further Review: Saints familiar with Graham grievance - FOX 8 WVUE New Orleans News, Weather, Sports

The Saints are quite familiar with Burbank and have not had much success in dealing with him. He ruled against the club and in favor of Drew Brees in his arbitration in 2012. In that case, Burbank ruled it was Brees' second franchise tag, not his first. Thus, 2013 would've been the last time he could have been franchised. Ultimately, both sides reached an agreement that made Brees the highest paid quarterback in the NFL.

Burbank also ruled in favor of the NFL in the original punishment in the bounty scandal that was challenged by the NFLPA. In that case, Burbank ruled that commissioner Roger Goodell had the authority to discipline players in the bounty scandal. Former commissioner Paul Tagliabue eventually overturned all player suspensions in that case.
Those 2 I could handle.
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Old 06-18-2014, 12:31 PM   #408
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre View Post
We've got another month of this; this part is just leverage and movements to gain further leverage...

Don't fault Graham or his representation for wanting to maximize his contract; just don't want this fabricated BS in the press he's a WR not a TE, or the wah-wah Twitter Posts...

If he or agent has to make a statement, then just say -

"We've told the Saints how much we want..."

"Jimmy is a unique and special player..."

"JG has played well above his contract..."

"Mr. Graham wants to retire a Saint..."

Then just stay on message...

All this other clever lawyer/agent bullshinski is just (temporarily) losing fan support as most fans have enough wah-wah in their lives with which to deal...
It doesn't matter how much money someone already has five million dollars is five million dollars and is A Lot of money.

I don't think anyone on this board wouldn't whine their asses off to double their salary. And even more so for 5 mil. I would be a sniveling little biatch if I could get 5 mil out of it.
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Old 06-18-2014, 01:24 PM   #409
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It doesn't matter how much money someone already has five million dollars is five million dollars and is A Lot of money.

I don't think anyone on this board wouldn't whine their asses off to double their salary. And even more so for 5 mil. I would be a sniveling little biatch if I could get 5 mil out of it.
This has nothing to do with $5 million for Graham. The $5M difference would only come into play if he was definitely playing this coming year under the franchise tag. That is not going to happen. Regardless of how the NFLPA's grievance plays out, Graham and the Saints will settle on a long term deal around $11 million per year on average.

The $5M difference does, in fact, come into play for future situations relying upon the precedent set by this hearing.
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Twitter bio used vs. Jimmy Graham of New Orleans Saints - ESPN
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