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Exxcalibur 01-13-2014 02:38 PM
Re: Jimmy Graham Contract
 
I want a fast, as in really fast, WR for trade Xmas - one with great hands.

Having said that, I'd take the Panthers Ginn in an heart beat...500 yards at Carolina is a waste of talent.

lee909 01-13-2014 02:45 PM
Re: Jimmy Graham Contract
 
You look at the WR and compare that to 8-9ml for Graham and he is a bargain.
No way would I be paying more for either of the Jacksons, or similar amounts for Brown, Garcon than I would for Graham.

Calvin Johnson may be immense but for that money you can be looking at Graham, Colston and Stills.

Utah_Saint 01-13-2014 02:49 PM
Re: Jimmy Graham Contract
 
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Originally Posted by Exxcalibur (Post 573385)
I want a fast, as in really fast, WR for trade Xmas - one with great hands.

Having said that, I'd take the Panthers Ginn in an heart beat...500 yards at Carolina is a waste of talent.
I think that's what Stills is supposed to be.

frankeefrank 01-13-2014 03:03 PM
Re: Jimmy Graham Contract
 
Seeing NE get to the AFC Championship without Gronk or Aaron Hernandez makes me think we would be fine letting him go.
He's a basketball player... soft... talented, but soft.
This is pro football, rosters turn over all the time.

ikecomp 01-13-2014 03:19 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by frankeefrank (Post 573398)
Seeing NE get to the AFC Championship without Gronk or Aaron Hernandez makes me think we would be fine letting him go.
He's a basketball player... soft... talented, but soft.
This is pro football, rosters turn over all the time.
Good point. New england lost 2 pro-bowl caliber tightends and still continued win. The only difference though is that the best defenses right now are in the NFC (Us, Seattle, San Fran and Carolina). Brady wouldn't have to worry about that in the postseason until the super bowl. We on the other hand have to go through that just to get to the super bowl.

Jamessr 01-13-2014 03:19 PM
Re: Jimmy Graham Contract
 
I'd be fine with another Colston...

ikecomp 01-13-2014 03:20 PM
Re: Jimmy Graham Contract
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Utah_Saint (Post 573388)
I think that's what Stills is supposed to be.
Stills has the better hands and nose for the ball but straight speed it's not very close. Ginn is still a burner. I just don't trust his hands.

Utah_Saint 01-13-2014 03:55 PM
Re: Jimmy Graham Contract
 
4.28 vs. 4.34 isn't too shabby.

jeanpierre 01-13-2014 04:43 PM
Re: Jimmy Graham Contract
 
Top to bottom, we've got the best WR corps in the league and best TE corps in the league...

As I've been a Graham fan since I saw him in his first camp, I've been equally disappointed in how he disappeared down the stretch which much of that is due to the torn plantar fascia tendon...

My concerns are his agent, their demands, and committing that much quan with the unknown of his recovery from said injury; sucked for him but San Diego strung out Gates till they got the deal they wanted, but Gates prime came and went quick...

Worth pointing out while we're bashing Graham for disappearing down the stretch, some of it deserved, let's not forget the man played through a torn plantar fascia...

I'm just not happy with Graham's choice of agent and that agent's personality of being Galactus, Destroyer of Salary Caps - I'd be happy if we franchised, non exclusive this season and see how things shake out from there while we draft a TE in this year's draft to keep transitioning...

TheOak 01-13-2014 05:33 PM
Re: Jimmy Graham Contract
 
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 573432)
Worth pointing out while we're bashing Graham for disappearing down the stretch, some of it deserved, let's not forget the man played through a torn plantar fascia...

And for that reason alone I don't give him much flack for not getting separation. It doesn't however excuse gator-arms or the high drop rate, in 2012 he lead the league in drops. Then there is the subjective opinion that he waits for the ball to come to him instead of going get it.

He is actually the receiver Drew throws the most INTs when being targeted.


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